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@Scamdisk did you click on the second link

no

tf there is an another romanian

19:46

that got tricked into watching a thiojoke video

There's two of them (online)

lies

the verge moment

sussy 5.1

@ImSwordQueen "all rights"

get original

the "all rights" snack

22:16

now available

No way. Mintel returned

14:34

4/9 done

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/rtkpgm/my_messages_in_discord_chats_are_shown_as_1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

r/discordapp - My messages in discord chats are shown as "1 message...

1 vote and 9 comments so far on Reddit

17:09

6/9 done

you should fix the size of starter lmao

more like fix the size of the other skus

ImSwordQueen

you should fix the size of starter lmao

kinda cant do that without making it a sku with no upgrade targets

oh.

and bitch ass 8.1 dism cleaned shit up when i did the funny /set-edition command

18:04

for the other skus i mean

so you are doing it manually

18:04

oh nvm

prerelease is gonna be on the same size as starter if i add the original prerelease image so

18:06

if i do a /set-edition from starter using 8.1 dism its gonna be way smaller

18:07

too lazy to redo shit with the hacky way that doesnt clean shit up

18:09

especially when the dism append-image command takes forever

waiting for this to finish

hidden palace admin be doing @ everyone every 5 seconds and me forgetting to mute everytime:

They finally done it

@#RadMorning what was that app you used to hack Windows window styles of applications?

Either resource hacker, some mss style editor or something else.

no, it was an utility that would change the styles of running applications/windows

12:10

kind of like Spy++, but it could change, not only view

Oh so doesn't enable you to change it, but enforce certain changes; then my bad, no idea on what it is. (edited)

MadEvening

Jump

Go to message!

this seems to be it

Oh? nice.

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/winexp.html

WinExp by NirSoft

12:34

... I'm late

im writing a book but its really really long

17:26

anyone gonna buy it when its done in 2030?

Sure lol

17:40

I've attempted to write a book before.... That didn't get very far

17:41

But I shall return to it one day, the story's never left me

I wrote a ~3000 word spec for an application in one day.

17:42

Will it ever be written, remains to be seen.

i wrote fanfiction flush

18:46

never published and never will be

18:47

truth be told, i probably would succeed at it yet i would never publish shit like that for.. reasons

Is it SFW or horny fanfic?

???????????????????

18:55

is that a question to ask

18:55

what do you think lol

18:55

still, i would never publish any fanfiction even if it weren't romance

18:55

cringe

Pfffffffft

what

Can't stop my ww2 fan fic

rip #macos. lasted 1 second

#apple

there was an another #macos lol

we do a little trolling

19:33

btw. lounge is too active

19:34

rename it to general

19:34

and general to lounge

19:34

we can't have lounge too active

ok bringing back general-3 under the name of offtopic

19:34

/s

we already have general 3 (edited)

19:35

#deleted-channel

oh yeah forgor about that

19:35

or renaming #lounge to #offtopic

19:35

considering how inactive it is

let's move #windows-7 and rename it to #gernel-4

no

or rename #general into general

19:35

and viceversa

19:35

not again

who renamed #windows-7 to #windows-7

19:36

again

renaming general to macos /s

only ogs remember this as general

19:37

and general as general-2

19:38

libraries

just checked and this channel actually is the original general

19:39

ryan's mass switching from a while ago confused me

19:40

I forgor

which was which

i want to rename all channels to #lounge-n

Ximonite

just checked and this channel actually is the original general

xim how the fuck did you not notice

bruh how was I supposed to know

19:42

without checking

by the pinned messages

bruh I forgot which is which

19:42

blame @docR

this was the og general

win32 pinned a message to this channel. 02/01/2022 19:43

and #lounge is lounge

19:43

xim

19:43

can you do the favour

19:44

and switch them for the last time?

done

cool

19:44

tomfoolery is gone

anyone caught switching them again will be sent to the brig

does doc have perms to change channel names?

Since when is docR not an admin?

since RP

#makedocumanadminagain

#no

19:46

Ximonite pinned a message to this channel. 02/01/2022 19:46

#whyisthat

It actually depends on Doc if he wants to stay a librarian

19:47

which he probably will

we need to send someone to the brig for this

since americanman is not here

19:47

we need someone else to brazil

ImSwordQueen

tomfoolery is gone

For once we agree

19:48

I'd prefer the 7 channel have its name back too, if I'm going to be honest

^

even you?

19:48

librarian

docR

I'd prefer the 7 channel have its name back too, if I'm going to be honest

I agree too - "Guys, I'm running the Libraries OS"

Afraid so

which one tho

Libraries role is funny tho kekk

19:49

But channel may confuse newcomers

theres 2 oses known to have them

MacOS Libraries

#RadMorning

I agree too - "Guys, I'm running the Libraries OS"

nice

and Windows Libraries

i have a libraries os on my laptoo

19:50

laptop**

I don't

technically every version after 7 have libraries still

19:56

just disabled on 8.1 and later

but they're hidden/disabled

8.0 has them enabled still

really?

i wonder why 8.1 had disabled them

19:56

probably because nobody used them

I never noticed

19:56

maybe because I've never used Windows 8.0 for daily use

i wonder why 8.1 changed computer to this pc

19:57

I never noticed...

19:58

also yeah, 'Computer' is present in 8.0

onedrive is the new libraries for me lol

Onedrive is more annoying

meanwhile in 8.1

Scamdisk

Onedrive is more annoying

yeah

thats by default

19:59

But MS never removed em

19:59

Just disabled them

20:04

wtf

name every channel #general

then we'll all be confused in general

i'm gonna explode

ImSwordQueen

probably because nobody used them

Most people don't even know what they are

can we get that hyper quality trollface here

20:35

forgot the name of the emoji but it's not here

20:35

20:36

why do we have an emoji of Ximonite sleeping

20:36

20:36

ximonshoe

20:36

ximonsleep

20:36

what next

docR

Most people don't even know what they are

it was a confusing way that was frankly useless

20:39

because the start menu of 7 still used the non libraries version of the account folders

ImSwordQueen

and general as general-2

Vruh 2

lolwhat

Vruh 2

why do we have an emoji of Ximonite sleeping

lets not

I took that pic, I added it to wls as an emoji, I’m the person in the pic, and I have no problem with it (edited)

23:15

I also use it occasionally so don’t remove it

bru why

23:15

why would you take a pic of yourself sleeping and make it an emoji

cause there are other emojis of me

23:17

23:17

lol

23:17

still not a reason but sure (edited)

He's shaneless that's why

my region had only shut off analog tv last month

23:41

https://youtu.be/3EZ4MNCXezw

Телевидение СНГ 📺📻

В Нур-Султане (Астане) Отключили Аналоговое тв

23:42

they're literally begging for you to get dvb t2

It's about time tbh

when did they disable analog in serb?

I don't think they did entirely, but basically 95% of Serbs have moved to digital television

Im guessing all serb channels in analog are begging for you to get digital or get dvb t2

23:47

just like kazakhstan

I think most of the analogue channels available are pirate channels anyway

Btw my cable tv signal is vhs quality instead of HD

23:52

why is that

1. It could be that the set-top box that you have isn't connected to the TV through HDMI

23:54

2. It could be that the TV hasn't been configured to show a sharp image - which was the case with my TV

I dont have a settop box

23:54

Literally just a coaxial cable around my home (edited)

In that case, the second option I said is plausible

23:55

if that isn't the case, contact your TV provider

Also i think my cable signal is a just a stream as i saw a channel list of what looks to be a cable box (edited)

If it's something related to cable, can't help ya

23:57

as for several years now I've had satellite TV

Also, all channels seem to be cropped in some way

23:59

90% i think its the cable signal

that could be down to the TV's config

As when i autoscanned channels again it was a bit zoomed out

23:59

Before that ot was zoomed in

00:00

So that really has to do with cable provider

00:00

Changing settings in the tv config does nothing (edited)

It's probably down to the cable provider

the Door guy

Im guessing all serb channels in analog are begging for you to get digital or get dvb t2

Most channels in like the US did that practice I think

the Door guy

Literally just a coaxial cable around my home (edited)

I think you are on analog cable.

we've had digital here for a good fucking while

00:39

so i never really noticed the death of analog around here

00:40

i hate cast.lib

00:40

a lot

00:40

i fucking loathe cast.lib

DeRosenberg

Most channels in like the US did that practice I think

Yes, there were a lot of PSAs. Some stations even ran "tests" that would confirm whether you were viewing digital or analog.

00:41

And people in Canada were certainly confused by the US conversion date. I remember it getting bumped down from February 17 and all.

2>NMAKE :  U1073: don't know how to make 'obj\i386\csapi3t1.dll'
3>NMAKE :  U1073: don't know how to make 'obj\i386\cast.lib'

if only i knew why the fuck aren't these 2 things getting built

00:44

they're definitely not lacking dependencies as i've bz'd the entire source at least 3 or 4 times by now

00:44

they just don't want to exist

00:44

scamdisk got the same 2 errors at one point

00:45

compiling 2k3 was supposed to be easier than when i last did it back in september 2020

win32

And people in Canada were certainly confused by the US conversion date. I remember it getting bumped down from February 17 and all.

It was around the same time, but they switched out fast that only indivdually-run stations were left out by a month or so.

compiling 2k3 was supposed to be easier than when i last did it back in september 2020

The repackaged one? (edited)

I think you are on analog cable.

@win32 i still see channels

MassClaw

It was around the same time, but they switched out fast that only indivdually-run stations were left out by a month or so.

compiling 2k3 was supposed to be easier than when i last did it back in september 2020

The repackaged one? (edited)

Not exactly: US was June 2009 while Canada was August 2011. Some full power rural stations continue to broadcast analog in Canada.

Oh then that's expected becuase the nation is sparsely populated. Discounting the american line of course. It wouldnt' be surprising if much of it fell on quebec and the others. (edited)

the Door guy

I think you are on analog cable.

@win32 i still see channels

Cable is generally exempt from requirements for OTA conversion. There was still analog cable here until 2018.

MassClaw

Oh then that's expected becuase the nation is sparsely populated. Discounting the american line of course. It wouldnt' be surprising if much of it fell on quebec and the others. (edited)

Yes, the CBC had a vast translator network that no American station could match. In NL they had 88 of them. Too many to convert to digital, so they are all gone.

00:50

Even Saskatoon and London lost their CBC transmitters.

Ouch, well it's doomed for obscurity if it didn't adapt ahead of the curve.

this file

01:10

this file

01:10

if a single fucking character gets in there

01:10

i will explode

Misfortune finds a victim no matter what.

boy did i get a character

02:37

i got multiple

02:38

wiped the fucking source tree outta my hard drive

02:38

starting out fresh

02:38

but it's definitely gonna get the same fucking errors because i know how it is

You found your way there soon enough.

docR

He's shaneless that's why

See what you did

im gonna install vmware and make a virtual machine. (atleast i have a windows xp product key

09:10

https://www.youwindowsworld.com/en/downloads/virtualization/vmware/vmware-workstation-10/download-155-vmware-workstation-10

Launching program download VMware Workstation 10

09:11

i recommend this site for vmware 10

Just get it from here: https://github.com/201853910/VMwareWorkstation , not only you actually download it directly without any interference, it's from the vmware site itself so no sketchy middle liners.

good morning

Greetings.

MassClaw

Just get it from here: https://github.com/201853910/VMwareWorkstation , not only you actually download it directly without any interference, it's from the vmware site itself so no sketchy middle liners.

Yep!

greetings

Welcome.

09:26

still having my action center fully transparent for a bit when i open it :)

09:26

meanwhile

Deformisani SAS

still having my action center fully transparent for a bit when i open it :)

It's far more serving than nullspace.

#RadMorning

Click to see attachment 🖼️

no transparency

09:34

does anyone need a xp product key?

09:34

MRX3F-47B9T-2487J-KWKMF-RPWBY

They are dime a dozen, many of them exist online. But thanks for that i suppose. (edited)

np

09:36

none of the keys that i found online work. except the one from archive.org

You might need to dig a bit more because i'm pretty sure they are abuntant on pastebins and others like it.

452mb?

11:26

not feeling too good about this one chief

january 2021 build date?

i literally built this hours ago

11:28

and i'm too lazy to redo the certs (edited)

11:28

so i set the date to jan. 2021

ok cool

i predict: missing drivers

11:28

trolla

11:28

come holla at the trolla

11:29

i hope this is not vl

11:29

so far i didn't add anything to it

11:29

not even the 2000 bootscreen

11:29

but now that i have a working source tree i'll do it later

11:29

TROLLA

certified hood classic

11:30

time to redo it all over again

11:30

or maybe the bios date is indeed the issue

11:30

no idea

still epic

11:31

windows xp but nt 5.2

i wanted to change the build number but last time i did that it went seriously wrong

that iso could help me a lot with something

11:33

I have been working on windows xp nt 5.2 edition

this is sp0

11:33

and you can't install any sp's in this

11:33

LET'SW

11:33

MOTHERFUCKING

11:33

GOOGHWETOYET

I just want a few files from it

watchu need

11:34

ok thank god it's not vl

11:34

nvm it's vl

11:34

uhh

11:34

so how do i figure out the product key

11:34

is there a file that has it

idk

11:35

the file I wanna look at from your iso is setupreg.hiv

one sec

11:36

SETUPREG.HIV

256 KB

epic

@Vruh 2 can you send setupp.ini from your iso

i'm not using setupp.ini from my iso

11:45

imma replace it with s2k3's

11:45

so i can actually install the thing

aight

in any case

SETUPP.INI

63 bytes

it did go wrong for me too

shit no

11:46

that's not it

11:46

that's the 2k3 one

11:46

there

SETUPP.INI

63 bytes

well changing the build number in 2k3src

i had the same errors as you changing the build num

interesting. first one you sent is slightly different than my 2k3 one

even changing the branch leads to errors for some fucking reason

second one completely different

whas the difference between em

11:47

the second one

11:47

oh i see

11:47

hey look it's my taskbar

hey look not windows 10

my 2k3 setupp.ini

no shit it's different

11:48

it should be

for some fucking reason the src patches dont like when the build string isnt 3790.0.srckit

yep

11:50

so in general just avoid it...

i wonder how others did it

11:50

like those guys got diff build numbers and branches with no errs

i thought it was maybe my kernel fucking things up but no

i even gone as far as building on baremetal

11:51

yet the same fucking errors

i did that first but honestly it wasn't even worth it

11:51

speed difference is negligible

11:51

so i just build on a vm now

i mean as in installing server 2003 on another drive just for src building

11:52

yeah that far

11:52

same fucking errors

11:52

because build num and branch isnt what the patches have by default

there we go

well at least it isnt home

11:53

where networking doesnt work for some reason

11:53

home 3790

home 3790.1232 leaked

11:54

lmao

11:54

still as bad as you would imagine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrQR1yE8nyg&ab_channel=DarkViperAU

DarkViperAU

Rockstar's Hidden Gem - Bully: Grand Theft Auto But In A School

ah yes

11:56

alright we're close to balling

11:56

logonui

wait i legit forgot that win 11 is a thing lol

its well known enough to have gotten a shitty mobile port

ok stop spamming man

just documenting lol

what. bully?

certified hood classic

yes

11:57

oh ho.

11:57

check gta sa

ik

11:57

mobile port of sa is shit

even the pc port (unofficial)

11:57

even the current de edition

11:58

atleast rockstar is fixing bugs

the mobile ports were the basis for the dissapointment editions (edited)

11:58

they took re3 and reVC down for that shit

ik

11:59

re3 is back but revc isnt

found important shit for xp nt 5.2 edition

12:02

almost all tha nt 5.1 stuff missing

12:02

right here

12:02

oobe when /s

oobe does not exist

the joke

i kno

I've been trying to change the sku like you just did with normal 2k3 iso instead of source compile

12:04

you think you can help?

no idea

12:04

tweaknt ?

12:05

perhaps it's time for me to ruin my source tree

12:05

encode decodepointer? 2000 bootscreen?

both

oobe does exist on xp only if u dont use easy install.

again the joke

also i never played bully.

winmsgr doesn't exist

12:06

that's about it

12:06

otherwise this looks and feels exactly like xp

on my build i have windows messenger.

Vruh 2

tweaknt ?

tweaknt might be useful idk

12:07

ez to change sku of installed windows no shit

i wonder what does it actually do though

but idk how it would help me with changing installation media

try seeing the differences between the backed up system hive that it says it did

12:08

and the one it patched

so uh. the windows xp update thing is dead now.

what xp update thing?

add the patched winlogon into the src tree next time

12:10

or rather, the compiled binaries folder (edited)

found tha based 2003

12:14

ballin

server 2k3

Scamdisk

add the patched winlogon into the src tree next time

yes

12:19

absolutely

12:19

i think i got enc decode pointer on already

12:19

mfs didn't even give me code snippets so i could do shit they just give me the whole fucking files

12:19

so it was barely anything

12:20

@Ximonite yo

12:20

you know how to make a 2000 style bootscreen right

12:21

with tha right palette n shit right

yes

~~could you make a 2000 style xp bootscreen for the trololo~~

12:26

~~pls~~

12:33

i got the 2000 bootscreen in, encode and decode pointer plus some other goodies that may turn into a problem later on

12:33

but otherwise they're in

12:33

the ultimate test: does fnaf 2 run trol

12:33

but i mean the ntos and win32 folder are both compiling without errors so i think we should be good

12:35

i'm just gonna bcz the base directory entirely and gonna replace winlogon along with the other activation files and then imma try to shit an iso out

Vruh 2

i got the 2000 bootscreen in, encode and decode pointer plus some other goodies that may turn into a problem later on

those other goodies turned into a problem very quickly

13:03

got rid of em

13:03

leaving only encode/decodepointer for now

btw I will make funny 2000 xp bootscreen soon™️

post build be like

13:15

i only built the base so i hope it's fine

13:16

stuck a patched winlogon + pidgen and setupp.ini from 2k3

Ximonite

btw I will make funny 2000 xp bootscreen soon™️

how would it look though

would look like the 2000 bootscreen

13:17

but it will say windows xp

new windows logo n shit + black background?

I could

13:18

but I wasn't going to

13:18

was gonna put xp logo and text on 2000 bootscreen

13:18

for the trolololo

that works too

13:18

that would be even more trolololo

13:18

do it

alright iso has been shat out

13:32

concept I made in like, 5 mins

oh i should mention

13:32

the progress bar i can't change (edited)

13:33

but that looks cool

13:33

this

13:33

i can't change that

13:33

change it to a square shape and that's literally almost it

13:33

just gotta move the logo up a bit

13:34

changed it to the 2000-style progress bar

13:34

but the image I used has an empty bar

make it a full square

13:34

it should be an empty bar

13:35

move the logo up a bit so it's centered relative to the upper square

13:35

and maybe add a white microsoft logo on one of the upper corners

almost perfect

I just noticed the copyright text isn't centred

i still feel the logo isn't really centered

13:36

move it up a bit

13:36

just a bit

hold up

what's wrong now?

Alrighty

the 2000 bootscreen is working

13:40

i fucked up the progress bar color

13:40

it's green instead of blue

13:40

oops (edited)

13:40

i need to remove a single character off a file to make it blue

13:40

i forgot about it

13:40

i'll do that later

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

just need to make this a bitmap with the proper palette @Ximonite

13:41

2000 boot screen for 8.1 when trol

in theory it's possible

13:43

if @win32 figures out how to get it on vista

13:44

i sent binaries with it applied to 2003's kernel already

13:44

so in theory he could do it

even better, 7 boot screen on 8.1 when

negative

13:44

2000 bootscreen is the superior one

im theming 8.1 to be like 7 as much as i possibly can

VRXXR-VJC3H-YVWYT-HCPDD-HFMQ3

13:46

saving it here

13:49

apparently including the patched winlogon is not enough

antiwpa

i kno

13:49

but it wasn't supposed to do this : (

bro what noooo

14:05

i wonder if i overwrote enc/decpointer files when i restored the win32 folder after it got severely fucked up

14:06

@#RadMorning

14:06

the palette mang

it looks like it's washed out

the palette is wrong

welp

14:08

how can this be fixed

idk

14:09

ximonite knows maybe

alter the colors so it displays correct in the wrong palette instead

spectacular bug

14:18

transparency in mspaint

oh wow

like how

thats anti aliasing afaik

no it's actually transparent

14:19

i can move around the image i pasted and the text is transparent

i mean anti aliasing causes that

14:20

because mspaint has a shitty implementation

it's a black and white image though

14:20

not text

it's an image

14:20

this is the image

14:20

however i paste it in xp's paint and the text turns transparent

huh

14:21

wtf

You have to save the bitmaps properly

14:29

Do you use pixelformer for doing so

the images I sent were in .png ...

just install Paint.NET 3.5.1, last ver to work on XP (edited)

whoopsie on my part

14:33

@Vruh 2 what option do I select?

14:33

for the format

iirc it's some 16 color palette

14:34

the fixed boot screen in bmp

14:35

try this, I guess

is it 16 color

yeah

It should be indexed btw

what do you mean exactly?

4bpp indexed bitmap

this bitmap is 16bpp

that's 16 bit

14:38

not 16 color

momentum

14:39

OK, figured out how to make it 16 color

14:39

...I think

welp got 10005 patched

14:40

uhm

14:40

Scamdisk

momentum

Did you debomb it

not yet

14:41

only got ci and winload patched

14:41

bootmgr was reused from 9926

Oh you learning it

14:41

Forgot to send you out 10005 but you seem to be doing great lol

more like someone gave something i don't feel like disclosing

Oh I know what you were given

he said it didn't work

14:42

but well

14:42

it worked with 10005

It does lol, at least 100% with ci (edited)

it did with winload as well seemnly

14:43

but guess 9926 bootmgr works with 10005 so no worry about patching that

I'll drop you the files anyway

oh yeah because winresume

Scamdisk

but guess 9926 bootmgr works with 10005 so no worry about patching that

The one I did?

14:44

Good thing that can be reused

no, lucas' 9926 efi bootmgr (edited)

Ah

i only patched the efi files

I did legacy to use 9926 for a bit (edited)

14:45

Unstable af with games

the fact this worked at all despite him saying it doesn't

He's that kind of people, making great stuff but not confident enough, ha (edited)

14:47

Say what's the last build with flight sign

some rs2 build

14:47

yup

Didn't work?

it did work

14:47

i haven't done the spp trick yet

Oh spp

wanted to be sure it works first

Flight sign is only responsible for causing blue screens (edited)

before any timebomb removal

14:51

wait a min i did do spp patching on 10009 however

14:51

but not gonna patch that's ci and winload rn

14:54

also i did install 10005 by deploying the wim into a vhd and loading it into vmware and setting nointegritychecks manually

i may leave it like this for now

Scamdisk

also i did install 10005 by deploying the wim into a vhd and loading it into vmware and setting nointegritychecks manually

Do you sysprep that next

no

i kinda wish i knew how to do the actual whistler one but that isn't the goal exactly

Oh I got what you mean

i did it for testing

14:56

the patched ci and winload (edited)

14:57

bootmgr i already knew it would work because it's 9926's

Vruh 2

i kinda wish i knew how to do the actual whistler one but that isn't the goal exactly

i saw that image earlier but that isn't the only thing

Bitmaps?

almost sure it needs more than just bitmaps aswell

Vruh 2

bro what noooo

five days at fredricks

#RadMorning

Click to see attachment 🖼️

why are u using irfanview when windows photo viewer is clearly superiour

2012 was 10 years ago

the Door guy

why are u using irfanview when windows photo viewer is clearly superiour

cuz IrfanView's got great features

Vruh 2

2012 was 10 years ago

...old

15:05

bro even worse

15:06

2009 was 13 years ago

15:06

️

15:06

i forgor

windows 7 is old as fuck

15:06

bro

15:06

bro

15:06

vista is almost 15

15:07

️

15:07

10 is almost 7

15:07

xp is 21

️

15:07

2000 is literally almost 23

️

15:07

holy shit

2019 was 3 year ago

15:09

2024 will be painful

15:10

windows 2000 is 25 years old

15:10

windows 7 is 15

15:11

windows vista is 17

15:11

windows 8 is 12 and 8.1 around 11 or 10

️

15:11

windows 10 is 9

15:12

@Betajyst4094 yo

15:12

bmps?

15:12

you got em?

What bmps

whistler

2419?

15:19

One minute

go on

Bitmap2419.7z

18.85 KB

hmmm

15:31

weird (edited)

15:31

it has none of the images that the new bootscreen uses

15:32

this is the only boot screen from the file Betajyst sent

yeah that's not exactly

15:35

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/914064561756336158/Compiled_XP_Test-2021-11-27T08-05-47-136575600Z.webm meant to get this @Betajyst4094

Hmm. wasn't it supposed to show it

15:36

One min

wtf

15:44

where are the bitmaps at (edited)

15:45

they don't exist in ntoskrnl or bootvid

That black bitmap IS the one you want

?

Bitmap 1 in the folder

I know

15:46

but it's just... black

Yes

15:47

It's black when viewed externally but on boot it's visible

15:47

That's a quirk of the main image bitmap in ntoskrnl

Ohhhh

So creating a custom one is a more specific procedure than I remember

what *

15:49

that black bitmap

15:49

actually has something in it?

Yes

mind blown

Open rtm xp's ntoskrnl and you'll also find it pitch black

15:50

Vista too

the funny xp bootscreen on vista ext kernel i did a while back was literally that, swapping 2 bitmaps (edited)

15:51

the animation and the pallete is literally the same in both

15:51

just that the bitmaps are different

Animation is a bootvid thing

yes

15:58

but it's like the same between xp and vista (7 and later with bootres disabled either by bootux or graphicsmodedisabled bcd options) (edited)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_6_startup_process

Windows NT 6 startup process

The startup process of Windows NT 6 (Windows Vista and later) differ from the startup process part of previous versions of Windows. In this article, unless otherwise specified, what is said about Windows Vista also applies to all later NT operating systems. For Windows Vista, the boot sector or UEFI loads the Windows Boot Manager (a file named B...

15:59

"The ABO menu is accessible by rapidly pressing or holding the F8 key before Windows boots. Starting from Windows 8 on UEFI, it can only be accessed by clicking Restart while holding the Shift key. "

15:59

didn't know this before (edited)

Betajyst4094

Click to see attachment 🖼️

bro

16:00

this fucking switch statement

16:00

my god

16:01

    switch (PltRotBarStatus) {

        
    case PLT_START:
        FadePalette ((UCHAR)(PaletteNum));
        FadePaletteColor (0, COLOR_FADE_TEXT); // #1 - color of fading text
        FadePaletteColor (0,BRED);
        FadePaletteColor (0,BGREEN);
        FadePaletteColor (0,BBLUE);
        FadePaletteColor (0,BYELLOW);
        
        if ((++PaletteNum)>=FADE_GRADES) {
            PltRotBarStatus = PLT_CYCLE;
            FadingIn = TRUE;
            PaletteNum = 1;
        }
        break;
        
    case PLT_CYCLE:
        switch (AnimBarPos) {
        case 0:
                FadePaletteColor(10,BRED);
                break;
        case 1:
                FadePaletteColor(FADE_GRADES,BRED);
                break;
        case 2:
                FadePaletteColor(10,BGREEN);
                break;
        case 3:
                FadePaletteColor(FADE_GRADES,BGREEN);
                break;
        case 4:
                FadePaletteColor(10,BBLUE);
                break;
        case 5:
                FadePaletteColor(FADE_GRADES,BBLUE);
                break;
        case 6:
                FadePaletteColor(10,BYELLOW);
                break;
        case 7:
                FadePaletteColor(FADE_GRADES,BYELLOW);
                break;
        case 8:
                FadePaletteColor(10,BRED);
                break;
        case 9:
                FadePaletteColor(0,BRED);
                break;
        case 10:
                FadePaletteColor(10,BGREEN);
                break;
        case 11:
                FadePaletteColor(0,BGREEN);
                break;
        case 12:
                FadePaletteColor(10,BBLUE);
                break;
        case 13:
                FadePaletteColor(0,BBLUE);
                break;
        case 14:
                FadePaletteColor(10,BYELLOW);
                break;
        case 15:
                FadePaletteColor(0,BYELLOW);
                break;
        
        default:
            break;
        }

16:01

suffer

They admitted it was bad code

i wouldn't have written better

16:01

at least it's not a giant if stack

Reminds me of someone

it reminds me of myself

16:01

but yes

16:02

yandev

I've probably got better code but it's for beta 2 bootscreen (edited)

ownage

16:03

first off it doesn't know what a bred is

16:03

nor a bgreen

16:03

nor a bblue

16:03

nor a byellow

16:03

it doesn't know anything

16:03

which means it was declared somewhere but where

Yep it does probably need more than that

so here are the defines

16:05

"BRED is 12, BGREEN is 13, BBLUE is 14, BYELLOW is 15"

16:05

sure enough

16:05

let's define that

16:08

that did the trick

16:09

swag

16:09

@Betajyst4094 time to see if it works lole!!!

Good stuff

nice

16:10

mfw wanted to make a 7 vm just for bcd template editing

16:11

but i realized i already had the 8102 eeap vm

16:11

i do know visualbcdeditor's bcd files are from 8102

almost

16:13

almost

Bitmaps bit different in earlier xp builds

16:14

Ask someone on bw cause i completely forgot how to deal with those. (edited)

i'm not gonna go bother people there

Lol

was 2419 the last build with this bmp?

last leaked with it, yes

ah

2428 uses the one with the xp flag

ok i think

16:15

i THINK

16:15

it may have to do with the fact i removed the definition of COLOR_WHITE

16:16

because it was the same thing as BYELLOW and wasn't used anywhere

I had the same issue just now

what issue

Those bitmaps are different

16:16

This palette

16:16

Does the same in vista ntoskrnl

well

16:16

you do have the tools to fix the palette right

16:20

ah i didn't even remove the definition

16:20

from the fadepalettecolor

16:20

i only removed it from the main palette

@Betajyst4094 you got the beta 2 screen code?

17:04

poopin shittin poopin shittin

17:05

wonder if i can get some more fade states in

17:05

that probably means making the switch case a literal tower

17:06

@win32 do you wish for this compiled in any case?

x64 would be preferable

absolutely not

17:12

i don't think i can compile this in amd64

17:15

i could try

17:15

but i doubt i'll produce working binaries

it doesn't have to work. the only code that needs to work properly is the boot anim code. or actually i'll just compile it into some boilerplate thingy or even use ntosdrop-ce

if you want just the boot anim code

17:25

i mean

17:29

it's all in ntos\init

17:29

i'll pull out my anim.c for you (edited)

17:32

anim.c

11.58 KB

17:32

comes with the correct palette

17:33

... and the questionable code written by fancymaster1

17:37

ugh thanks discord

https://www.deviantart.com/matthewtaehyung83197/art/Windows-7-theme-for-Windows-8-8-1-855430933?ga_submit_new=10%3A1641229314&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1

Windows 7 theme for Windows 8/8.1 by MatthewTaehyung83197 on Devian...

17:45

shouldve posted in #windows-8 but eh

@Betajyst4094 bo ?

What

18:15

Oh nice, it works

Technically with some diffing this can be ported to vista

18:26

Just a theory tho

no i mean

18:35

you got the beta 2 screen?

18:37

also i wish i had some form of grep equivalent

18:37

i can't use grep because i don't have some functions on s2k3

Well you don't hesitate to bother me /j

18:41

Yeah one minute

18:43

This I think, put stuff in respective directories

cyclercode.zip

29.93 KB

18:43

You might have to fix something (edited)

minimal discord.

18:48

18:49

bruh the upload speed of my ss in this server are slow

18:55

idk why my monitor saves stuff that was previously on the screen.

Ghosting?

seems like so

image retention

18:57

bad samsung panel.

Burn in

18:57

My phone has the same thing somehow

18:58

it is an LCD panel

Deleted User

My phone has the same thing somehow

my tablet had that too. but the whole panel is fucked up now. (cracked)

Deleted User

Burn in

not burn in, it's called image retention

19:23

burn in is a term from the CRT monitor era :)))

ha

19:23

ah

for OLED screens it's more like burn out as the pixels slowly degrade

19:24

but I think it can somewhat heal itself

it can.

19:24

if you turn it off for a few hours

19:24

i mean this monitor was cheap. and works fine.

19:34

everyone played the og nfsu

i barely played it

19:36

nfsu2 was my life at one point though

same

19:42

thats why i love nsfu 2

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

man

20:01

that looks awesome

Deformisani SAS

everyone played the og nfsu

i did

ik

even when i was a kid

im 13 and i played nfsu since i was 5

i have it installed now too

Deformisani SAS

im 13 and i played nfsu since i was 5

since 6 maybe

for me nfsu 2 doesnt wanna launch on windows 10 :(

for me it can

20:02

just fine

i played nfs carbon on the last day the online servers were up

20:04

and no one was online

20:04

20:05

i never played online lol

20:06

only story mode or whatever

20:06

still play the game

20:06

my fav game of all time

20:06

tried to speedrunnit

20:06

didnt go well

20:06

stacked deck is extremely annoying

i never played online either

20:23

its still possible actually. but not officialy.

yea

21:16

with custom servers or parsec

21:43

playing gta sa on a vm ? not bad and not laggy (like 25 to 30 fps)

not exactly what i wanted (edited)

Shitcunt

22:56

are you reshacking the text in explorer or what

no

then what

win32k.sys compiled from source because

22:56

i can

ah yes

22:56

was the source ever fully compiled

yeah

22:57

that system is literally fully compiled from source (edited)

22:57

well not entirely because there's missing shit in tha source

22:57

but it was compiled

i thought the code to winver was not there

to what

winlogon

22:57

sorry brainfard

it isn't (edited)

22:58

it was reversed for xp sp1 but this is based off s2k3 so i'm just using one from a retail iso

22:58

yes you can just bolt on missing shit onto your compiled files

Vruh 2

it was reversed for xp sp1 but this is based off s2k3 so i'm just using one from a retail iso

then why didnt you compile sp1 if thats complete

it's not

22:59

xp sp1 doesn't even compile to a full system

skip

i thought the code to winver was not there

ah yes. a fondamental part for windows to boot

you can only do a service pack installer

winver

22:59

i know right????

22:59

how can we live without the nice gradient banner bro

22:59

absolutely unusable

actually

23:00

you can't boot windows without winver

you can

and my clock is 2 minutes before

lmao what

da future

ok

i was kinda wanting this more but obviously this is not the way

your clock is completely wrong

23:00

its 1 hr behind

it's not

Vruh 2

i was kinda wanting this more but obviously this is not the way

windows longhorn start button trol

make longhorn 2

i could compile with the kernel version in 6.0

23:03

it would break a lot of shit and it would make razzle think i'm compiling longhorn which would break things even more

23:03

but i could

23:04

i wonder if i can get just the start text and not the flag

23:04

actually yes

23:05

i can

23:05

making the flag a transparent bitmap

23:05

not legit enough

cunt for yt is basically the n word

too bad

wait what happens if razzle thinks it's compiling longhorn

that i don't know

23:06

probably breaks shit

23:06

it does know when it's compiling longhorn

it would complain about missing longhorn stuff for sure

23:06

i mean of course it would

longhorn was already in development when 2003 rtm was compiled (edited)

there are a shitload of longhorn and blackcomb mentions thru code

23:07

by the time of 2003 rtm lh was well into dev

23:18

i have a fuck ton of software openned up and my ram is chillin. (1gb ram on the vm)

office 2003 and a browser

that was easy (edited)

skip

office 2003 and a browser

that isnt so much

Vruh 2

that was easy (edited)

god its so uncanny

i wiped the bitmap's rendering previleges outta this world

Vruh 2

that was easy (edited)

Start

suffer

Vruh 2

that was easy (edited)

is that a early longhorn build or is that a early xp build

Vruh 2

i wiped the bitmap's rendering previleges outta this world

give em back!!!!

Vruh 2

suffer

Deformisani SAS

is that a early longhorn build or is that a early xp build

that's server 2003 professional

garbo

the rarest version of them all

Vruh 2

the rarest version of them all

Not arson enough

23:20

Make everything in shell32 into winver

windows 5.3 when

impostor

once again

23:21

nothing is stopping me from

23:21

setting the version number to 5.3

Deformisani SAS

impostor

sus

besides my will to do it

when the impostor is sus

make it 6.1 and watch shit go wild

5.x

23:22

6.x

i lowkey wanna make the flag render to the right

23:23

better yet let me put the entire flag rendering code on an if and let me make it so i can switch it on and off easily in the code

23:23

ezpz

just replace all the letters with windows flags

23:23

i

23:23

don't know how to do that

23:23

but it'd be ultra funi

ImSwordQueen

5.x

10.0

probably copy the windows flag code and paste it

23:24

a bunch of times

23:24

so

23:24

that could work

23:24

but

probably that won't work

that'd be inefficient and

23:24

fuck it

23:24

so no

major trolla moment

Vruh 2

major trolla moment

bool

23:30

boob lool

23:31

it doesn't look that bad

23:33

Ok

sta

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

stan

i love ie crashing the whole vm

ImSwordQueen

i love ie crashing the whole vm

ie running on less than 69 cores? prepare for DEATH

23:35

you wish i were joking

ok windows 7 choosen to be a bitch and keeping vmware busy for no reason

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

sta on serbian means what

23:48

ive never seen this boot animation on xp

00:02

cry about it

00:03

it's working all too well

00:04

my toggle actually works now i can switch between disabled and enabled and now i have the most cursed start menu ever

00:12

how's that

garbo

02:45

02:48

css on a vm.

02:48

sheesh better than i expected. also idk why but the vms graphics card is having a stroke. now everythig is bright af

ImSwordQueen

5.x

whats wrong with 5.0 (windows 2000)

09:12

it is fairly light

hiya!

hello

Hello

hello

Ninja style

@Ximonite good start button ? (edited)

yea it looks good 6P62OkieDokie

longhorn

i did some tomfoolery

13:14

on the source

13:14

and now it looks like this

13:14

it's still hacky though (edited)

This can be achieved with restorator easily

yes

13:14

it can

i love your win32k mod

13:14

shitcunt

i put some very obvious strings so i could know it was working

13:15

anyways i wanted to remove the text in the start button all together (edited)

13:15

before i realized: it's impossible

how does classic look like (edited)

like shit

13:16

it looks like shit

13:16

like i said this is a hacky solution

13:16

aligning the windows flag to the right then putting 2 spaces

13:16

yes... if i put some actual text the windows flag is on the right

13:17

10/10

turns out putting 2 spaces for the text makes a pretty fire start menu

13:17

fuck

13:17

start button

13:17

@Betajyst4094 can you align the start button flag to the right with restorator?

13:18

apparently you can align it to the center but again you'd need no text on the button and that's impossible so

13:18

i wonder if you can make the start button a checkbox troll

wait

13:18

isn't the text stored in the registry

no

13:18

it's on explorer.exe

13:18

it has like

13:18

10 things you need to nuke then it goes to a fallback in tray.cpp

13:19

which is the text in that image

13:19

hence the capitalized S

13:19

that's the fallback text after i nuked 10 things related to the text rendering in the code

oh

but normally it's on a string in explorer.rc (edited)

13:20

much easier to work with

13:22

i lowkey want to make the button a checkbox

13:27

ok no making the pushbutton a BS_CHECKBOX is not the right way of doing it

Vruh 2

@Betajyst4094 can you align the start button flag to the right with restorator?

Why would I do that

because with it left aligned it doesn't perfectly center

oh this is perfect

13:45

i can start breaking shit severely

13:46

i could potentially kill uxtheme support for the taskband

13:46

hmmm nah

Vruh 2

oh this is perfect

that start button looks smecksy

13:46

custom theme?

no

13:46

it's just royale

13:46

and explorer's buttfucked

13:47

to make it look good

buttfuck explorer

13:47

momend

proof it ain't a custom theme

13:48

don't mind the broken as fuck taskband

where's plex trol

up your ass troll

owned!

13:50

troll moment

13:50

13:51

is this a major troll moment

13:51

naw

13:55

the desired result was achieved

13:55

no more text!

13:55

no

13:55

more

13:55

text

wow

13:55

that means... more confusion

13:55

but, you've got ALT+TAB

now replace the taskbar texture with edp

that means we're going windows 7 style

Alrighty

oops

14:07

aw

14:07

i did it too early

lmao this is too good

this taskbar

15:12

is insufferable

15:12

help me

i like it

15:14

i mean its good if you have a big monitor and want to make use of it

1152x864

that looks........ fine

15:14

normal power user's pc

15:14

from 2006

15:14

i guess

suffering

15:18

aha i made it render no brackground on the tray

that looks uncanny

15:19

why does it look so much like longhorn

15:19

you should actually make an explorer that looks like longhorn

wrong this is shitcunt not longhorn

windows shitcunt

15:19

sounds interesting

no

15:19

just shitcunt (edited)

lmao

I like the design with the system tray more

#RadMorning

I like the design with the system tray more

i did it that way to use it with royale

15:20

yo mama dead

vista momentum

oh yea

literally 1984

15:21

+23 years

wtf how

Vistafying XP

#RadMorning

Vistafying XP

no i'm just commenting shit out until i see something i like

what is xp

15:21

that is shitcunt

this is completely random

15:22

let me record shitcunt booting up so you can feel even more confused

Well, it is a looking a little like Vista

give shitcunt iso

with the textless Start button

FUCK i recorded in mkv

Vruh 2

FUCK i recorded in mkv

change extension to mp4

15:24

itll work

You'll see whistler bootscreen

15:25

Vruh did the beta 2 code work?

15:25

vmware fucked up really hard in the end

15:25

like

15:25

explosively

Betajyst4094

Vruh did the beta 2 code work?

e?

i didn't really try it

what the heck was that at the end

i don't know

15:26

vmware fucked up

15:28

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/927941635092926506/unknown.png apparently the tray buttons are supposed to have hover and pressed states

15:28

i broke the tray enough for them to appear

sweet jesus

no idea how to make them appear

15:29

without breaking the whole tray theming

Hmm, that'd make it better

15:30

Hover looked really good in 7 betas

god what the actual fuck

they're opaque which doesn't

15:33

help

are you doing to this poor xp install

replacing explorer

15:33

100 times

15:33

otherwise nothing

15:51

fancy cmd

ImSwordQueen

fancy cmd

the scrollbar is not nice

15:53

change the font to a cooler one like consolas

15:53

and hide the scrollbar

15:53

then it will be pure epicness

you can't hide it

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

15:53

not good

15:53

get rid of it

how

idk

15:53

skill issue

well thats better

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

why

16:12

I don't want my mf command prompt to rely on dwm

Ximonite

I don't want my mf command prompt to rely on dwm

in what cases do you not have dwm on your system

16:13

unless you dont have a graphics card or just are a nerd who likes grey 90s ui

7 betas in a vm

why would you have a shiny aero command prompt on a 7 beta in a vm?

idk lol

16:14

I don't want my command prompt to be fancy anywhere

16:14

I want it to work

clearly you aren't a linux user

even when everything else is dying

16:14

yep

idk man

16:17

i like cmder

16:17

it can look fancy while being functional

16:17

you can make it a drop down like in quake so you press

16:17

say

16:17

alt + '

16:17

and it drops down from the top of the screen

16:17

you also have tabs

16:17

and you can customize however you want it

amogus, sus! (edited)

16:20

sussy backier

like so

16:22

you can make it smaller of course (edited)

noice

alternatively it can just appear without the slide down

ImSwordQueen

how

make the window height match the buffer height

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

How

how

oh cool

skip

how

How

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

my bet is that you've changed the CMD sauce to call a DWM API to extend the glass into the client area

16:27

and since the default background color of CMD is black, that gets rendered as transparent to the glass

16:28

what happens if you do "color f0"

16:28

or smth to change the background color

@docR explain this shit

RaduTek

my bet is that you've changed the CMD sauce to call a DWM API to extend the glass into the client area

is the source code to cmd available tho?

I remember you know how to do it

doubt it

it's just an app

RaduTek

my bet is that you've changed the CMD sauce to call a DWM API to extend the glass into the client area

No

16:29

He juts

skip

is the source code to cmd available tho?

leaks idk, also pretty sure other implementations to the terminal exists

Aerocmd

well that mod still probably needs to use that API (edited)

urmomcmd

No shi

deezcmd

deez nu

deez no

Looks good on here

the funny

Ah it's being used still hehe

yea I actually updated it recently

16:32

figured out there was a v2 like a week ago

16:33

this looks poggers

Good stuff. even though most of the work is athenera's lol..

16:34

If 5252 leaks we'll see how close i got

~~still want someone to fix 5112 theme for 8.1~~

16:36

my attempt almost bricked my 8.1 installation tsunLUL

Ximonite

the funny

how 2 (edited)

aeroCMD.exe

48 KB

HOLY SHIT

does not even run in Windows 10

Betajyst4094

Looks good on here

?

#RadMorning

does not even run in Windows 10

omg wuindows 19

️ad

seriously, it isn't running

16:40

run aerocmd

16:40

run cmd

technically yeah

Run cmd

ohhhh.

16:40

I'm dumb

It's an injector

it only officially supports vista and 7

skip

Click to see attachment 🖼️

im running 10 ltsb lol

can't run Glass8 since I'm on the latest Win10 LTSC

16:41

2021

very weird

Ximonite

this looks poggers

Yessssss

no blur here lol

like on Windows 10/11, the glass on client area API should just fill the client area with the title bar color

16:43

it shouldn't make the background transparent nor blurry

Ximonite

Click to see attachment 🖼️

This the one I use?

unless there's a different "glass fill"

Ximonite

@docR explain this shit

You mean change the text color?

docR

You mean change the text color?

they were wondering how to make cmd use aero

By using that exe lol

RaduTek

very weird

this is unfair it works for you but not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But change the text color to something more bold, like green

I prefer the look of the normal cmd

It'll be hard to read over some backgrounds even then

mfw can't use windows terminal on ltsc

16:46

might install mainline win11 later

16:46

probably when i get a second ssd on this thing

HOLY SHIT NO

19:41

THE SKU WORKED

19:41

THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK

19:41

VRUH 2 ASSFUCK

sounds like starter

oh hey

19:46

the default wallpaper is actually crystal now

19:46

and my explorer is working

19:49

i guess i present Vruh 2 Assfuck Professional

(edited)

i like that taskbar a lot

19:50

is it a theme?

no

the fact luna looks better without the cyan tray part

classic however

19:51

: )

bliss is no more

19:51

crystal and ripple are the superior wallpapers

how can i get that start button and remove cyan tray part in xp?

you can't

19:51

: )

19:51

you could extrapolate luna to make it look similar

without src fuckery that is

19:52

i dare you to delete access to classic /s

negative

2PAC - Bulgaria

extrapolated ~~2600~~ 3790 times

the iso

19:58

the iso

19:58

i forgot to generate a new build tag so it's still yesterday

19:58

in 2021

server 2003 src when build tag is not 3790.srckit: random errors for no reason

19:59

still wonder how the others avoided those

segoe is here wtf

Vruh 2

i guess i present Vruh 2 Assfuck Professional

(edited)

mf even got the little longhorn start button gap

20:04

i hate that

on the bottom?

20:05

i have no idea why does it exist

20:06

taskbar's 30px

20:06

i set the start button to be 30 px hi

longhorn had that bug too

20:09

it's not a bug actually

20:09

it's the start button bmp

20:09

it just has a little thing on the bottom

20:10

this guy is so fucking stupid

20:46

at least he kept it

20:48

what the where

my server

wow that kid is stupid

20:53

lmao

20:53

like he literally burned a service pack installer to a dvd thinking it's an iso file

20:53

bruh

XDDDD

skip

like he literally burned a service pack installer to a dvd thinking it's an iso file

they did actually release service packs as an iso back then

22:19

the ones on the official microsoft site were iso's

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/928046671550623784/unknown.png tried to arson but eh

22:30

it didn't work

not running windows 2000

23:58

dies *

23:58

me when i do the thing of the what when

ok then

Vruh 2

not running windows 2000

not yet

02:48

I'll install 2000 on it when I feel like it

03:35

mypal browses discord alot faster than firefox esr

03:39

i barely remember total cmd

03:39

that thing is old jesus

03:41

06:13

havent played this in a while

so i noticed that someone hacked my google account again. and legit made a video on a fortnite skin changer lmfao

How?

08:01

How someone can hack your account? (edited)

Ximonite

awesome

09:01

mine

RostiTheGamer

How someone can hack your account? (edited)

Dodgy OAuth services

09:12

Insecure passwords used on other sites

09:12

Data leaks

09:12

No 2FA enabled

Yeah

extended kernl stupid scam troll

10:08

how maek work????

extract the setup file using WinRAR or 7-zip

the fonts are all broken

skip

extended kernl stupid scam troll

Ever wanted a trip to the beautiful south american country

nope

aight

lol discord still not working

#RadMorning

extract the setup file using WinRAR or 7-zip

I install it by editing OSver

imagine using stinky web client on vista when you can use epical windows 7 with working discord

10:25

lololololololo

Libraries OS

skip

imagine using stinky web client on vista when you can use epical windows 7 with working discord

just you wait.

why not

start11 is the definition of asshole design

14:11

can't open up the configurator app because it wants me to update it

ah yes.

14:11

always on drm

or rather it detected the crack

14:12

because it's already 1.01

14:12

time to update uninstall then reinstall the cracked version (edited)

ohh

14:12

i saw that too

14:12

i thought it was an always up-to-date or no use thing

but it's 1.01 so more like it detected the crack

i fucking hate explorerframe

14:14

i can't mod it with resourcehacker because it dies

14:14

i can't mod it with customizergod because it doesn't change anything

@Scamdisk i’ll give you a start11 key

no need

14:23

i can reinstall the cracked version without deleting config data

It's probably against your interest as well to activate it, unless you are maining the thing.

welp got it recracked

14:26

so while i can't reconfigure it

use the registry trol

i can use it with the centered taskbar and 11 start menu

14:29

removed start11config

14:29

now let's see if it works without that

14:29

and yup it does

btw

14:31

why using the start 11 start menu

i like the 11 start menu just not 11 itself

that's what i hated from 11 lol

idk at least it can be used with a good taskbar

14:35

sib++ will never have this

but no live tiles either

14:36

the worst of both worlds (edited)

never cared for live tiles tbh idk why (edited)

on 8.x i don't use them often

14:37

but on 10 when i get the chance they are actually useful

also start11's 11 style menu has the better search

14:37

like no opening other shit just for searching

14:37

it does it from the menu itself

and yes this is 1809

14:48

because vb bad

1903 was terrible

15:04

anything before and after 1903 was better

how is 1903 terrible

15:06

i found it more usable than 1909

15:06

everything after 1903 is terrible

i remember 1903 back when it released

15:08

bro

15:08

by far the worst version i installed on my computer

15:08

microsoft constantly breaking vmware

15:08

constant bsods

15:09

i have no idea why that version was so bad

15:09

1909 was miles better

never had issues with 1903

15:32

except for the memory leaks

15:32

but it was a dirty install

15:33

and all dirty installs i had had problems

/*---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 |   WINVER.C - Windows Version program
 |
 |   History:
 |  03/08/89 Toddla     Created
 |
 *--------------------------------------------------------------------------*/

#include <nt.h>
#include <ntrtl.h>
#include <nturtl.h>


#include <windows.h>
#include <port1632.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include "winverp.h"
#include <shellapi.h>
#include <strsafe.h>
#ifndef ARRAYSIZE
    #define ARRAYSIZE(x)                    (sizeof(x) / sizeof(x[0]))
#endif

BOOL FileTimeToDateTimeString(
    LPFILETIME pft,
    LPTSTR     pszBuf,
    UINT       cchBuf)
{
    SYSTEMTIME st;
    int cch;

    FileTimeToLocalFileTime(pft, pft);
    if (FileTimeToSystemTime(pft, &st))
    {
        cch = GetDateFormat(LOCALE_USER_DEFAULT, DATE_SHORTDATE, &st, NULL, pszBuf, cchBuf);
        if (cch > 0)
        {
            cchBuf -= cch;
            pszBuf += cch - 1;

            *pszBuf++ = TEXT(' ');
            *pszBuf = 0;          // (in case GetTimeFormat doesn't add anything)
            cchBuf--;

            GetTimeFormat(LOCALE_USER_DEFAULT, TIME_NOSECONDS, &st, NULL, pszBuf, cchBuf);
            return TRUE;
        }
    }    
    return FALSE;
}

INT
__cdecl
ModuleEntry()
{
    TCHAR szTitle[32];
    LARGE_INTEGER Time = USER_SHARED_DATA->SystemExpirationDate;

    if (LoadString(GetModuleHandle(NULL), IDS_APPTITLE, szTitle, ARRAYSIZE(szTitle)))
    {
        if (Time.QuadPart) 
        {
            TCHAR szExtra[128];
            TCHAR szTime[128];

            if (FileTimeToDateTimeString((PFILETIME)&Time, szTime, ARRAYSIZE(szTime))
                    && LoadString(GetModuleHandle(NULL), IDS_EVALUATION, szExtra, ARRAYSIZE(szExtra)))
            {
                StringCchCat(szExtra, ARRAYSIZE(szExtra), szTime);
                ShellAbout(NULL, szTitle, szExtra, NULL);
            }
        } else 
        {
            ShellAbout(NULL, szTitle, NULL, NULL);
        }
    }
    return 0;
}

15:49

winver is a very complex program

15:49

/s

It doesn't really need to be.

Actually I'm surprised that winver is that complex.

15:58

All it really needs to do is wrap ShellAboutW. (edited)

It might've accounted several errors, seeing a few here.

On another note, it may be awhile before we hear from @the Door guy again. Apparently all Internet access in Kazakhstan has been shut down.

Really?

What kind of twisted fate is that?

scuffed

win32

On another note, it may be awhile before we hear from @the Door guy again. Apparently all Internet access in Kazakhstan has been shut down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/world/europe/kazakhstan-protests-gas-prices.html

By Valerie Hopkins and Ivan Nechepurenko

Kazakhstan Shuts Internet as Government Offices Burn in Protests

Anger sparked by a gas price increase in the resource-rich Central Asian nation has swelled despite concessions from the ruling party and a strict state of emergency.

16:01

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59876093

Kazakhstan unrest: Almaty mayor's office stormed in protest

Protests over fuel prices are raging for a second day despite a state of emergency in some areas.

this is giving me an idea or two

16:02

the framerate in this bootscreen

16:02

jesus

How about codename Astana? I think Nur-Sultan is a dumb name for a city anyway.

yes. we can clearly see the framerate with a still image

oh just implying THIS bootscreen has a pretty smooth framerate

16:03

just imagine it

16:03

this one

16:04

betajyst sent the code to it iirc?

16:04

so i could do something

also the yellow color is wrong

it's fading

it's literally brown

it's faded

16:04

i took the screenshot while it was fading

#RadMorning

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59876093

Oh it's just an authortarian country.

At least Russia will have the sense to not rename Moscow "Putingrad" like the Kazakhs did with Astana and Nursultan.

Amazing, seems the soviet regime is still alive and well even without the flag.

The protests are fucking brutal

37902428 when

They stormed the government buildings good

Not now.

The protests are fucking brutal

Not that much when put into scale.

Literally stripping weapons off police

MassClaw

Not now.

The protests are fucking brutal

Not that much when put into scale.

For an increase in price of gas this is kinda too much

16:12

Sometimes I feel like this bs is kinda coordinated

It seems it's about something else too.

yea there gotta be something else to this

16:13

no way people are actually going this far over mf gas prices

Yes and the gas price increase might be just no more than a formal excuse

At last check, Kazakh government was aligned with... big bad Rossiya!!!!

16:13

And guess who doesn't like that

Well russians apparently got their il-76's in there already.. (edited)

Ximonite

no way people are actually going this far over mf gas prices

The price got reduced in half

16:14

They still proceeded to attempt overthrowing the government

16:14

Lol

@Vruh 2 go to #lounge please

It's definitely something more than this

oh sorry

it's ok. just don't want random windows xp things in the middle of this kind of conversation

Door257 is kazakh right?

yea

yes

Betajyst4094

It's definitely something more than this

The regime is probably the one at question.

Damn

16:15

Good luck to the dude and his family

Kazakhstan has been one of the most stable parts of CIS... until this erupted.

16:16

So it is odd.

It is, it is

16:17

Their party wasn't so bad, at least judging from what my friend says

16:18

I've got showed some videos and dam is brutal.

It's just strangely leaning too much onto russia, evident on their vaccine supplies and what not, most of the popular ones are alien to the rest of the world.

Haven't looked too much into this but anything is possible. at least it's obviously of more external nature (edited)

Ximonite

no way people are actually going this far over mf gas prices

Yeah wtf

win32

On another note, it may be awhile before we hear from @the Door guy again. Apparently all Internet access in Kazakhstan has been shut down.

Goddamn right

18:07

Im finally fucking back bitches!!

18:08

I knew about the protests

Betajyst4094

They stormed the government buildings good

wish we had that much balls. we should have done even a larger scale protest years ago

they tore down police cars

but oh well. 106k firearms have been missing from the governments inventory for a while now so

18:12

seems like another coup is brewing up (edited)

what are your thoughts on tokayev

if your people go that far to protest, id say not really good

lodocus

but oh well. 106k firearms have been missing from the governments inventory for a while now so

Just wait for them to report that billions of dollars are missing. Then something will happen within a few days, as has happened in the US (9/10/01) and Canada (May 2013; not nearly as bad, but a large senator expense scandal suddenly appeared making the former story die quickly with a whimper)

lmao

18:15

thats already a thing

18:15

128m usd is missing from our reserve and government says they have no idea what happened

18:16

can you fucking believe it?

18:16

these motherfuckers dont know what happened to 128 million dollars sitting in reserve

18:16

nah

18:16

lol

18:16

of course they do know what happened. they are just hiding what theyve done with it (edited)

18:23

its also kinda interesting how around 90k firearms went missing before the july 15 coup too

the Door guy

they tore down police cars

Wtf is this in the US?

naw. kazakhistan

Ohhhhh

18:24

Okay

Betajyst4094

Good luck to the dude and his family

i was and am home this entire time (edited)

Stay safe there mate

the Door guy

they tore down police cars

This has also happened here, but usually during Stanley Cup Conference Finals or Stanley Cup Finals.

btw theres now a policy for today wehre you cant go outside from 11 pm to 7 am (edited)

MassClaw

Oh it's just an authortarian country.

Same with Saudi Arabia and Egypt

basically middle east and eastern bloc entirely

win32

At least Russia will have the sense to not rename Moscow "Putingrad" like the Kazakhs did with Astana and Nursultan.

What was the name of those cities in Kazakhstan before they were renamed that

astana

win32

At last check, Kazakh government was aligned with... big bad Rossiya!!!!

Egypt is aligned with the United States so

18:26

:)

before astana, celinagrad i think?

Huh

DeRosenberg

Egypt is aligned with the United States so

id never trust those bastards

it was turned astana in 1998

lodocus

id never trust those bastards

Who?

us always gets into action, fucks shit up even more and leaves

Ooh yeah

18:27

So you trust Russia then or nobody?

18:27

Just a question

Canada has had problems with tariffs and other policy, like the Michigan governor who tried to shut down pipelines that supply much of Ontario's gas.

nobody really

Eh I understand

18:28

I mean

not even my own country

Both the United States and Russia are problematic

18:28

I mean their governments

yeah

it really fucking feels great to be finally back to internet again

Wait it's back now?

it was down all day (almost)

Obama's strong support for fracking caused a recession in Canada, Russia and other oil producing states in the mid 2010s, causing the Canadian dollar to lose about 25% of its value.

Oh

the Door guy

it was down all day (almost)

Glad you're okay dude

when i woke up at 5pm it was down

18:30

rn its 12 am

18:30

its on

how did you wake up at 5pm lol

ImSwordQueen

how did you wake up at 5pm lol

different sleep schedules (edited)

at least it isn't as bad when i woke up at 8pm

MassClaw

Amazing, seems the soviet regime is still alive and well even without the flag.

And without the communist stuff of course

18:31

I mean

18:31

I don't know

ImSwordQueen

at least it isn't as bad when i woke up at 8pm

not bad

win32

Obama's strong support for fracking caused a recession in Canada, Russia and other oil producing states in the mid 2010s, causing the Canadian dollar to lose about 25% of its value.

i mean cccp's collapse wasnt only horrible for the entirety of eastern block, it kinda killed america as well. without the big scary reds to fight, people turned on each other.

USSR

18:35

I mean at least the people in Eastern Europe are free from communism (edited)

They're still under tyranny, but at least there's electricity and the internet now lol

Not exactly, Kosovo had rolling blackouts recently

19:57

But that is not because of communist stupidity. Germany is decommissioning nuclear plants and similar factors have resulted in electricity shortages across the EU. (edited)

i guess serbia was right after all?

yes!

docR

They're still under tyranny, but at least there's electricity and the internet now lol

we always had electricity today

20:02

just not internet

still wont forget the time they bombed the bazaar and the hospital full of civilians in sarajevo

20:04

but well, nato dropped over 1000 bombs (around 10k tons of explosive material) containing depleted uranium over serbian civilian population on august 30 1995

20:05

radioactive material released into the environment is impossible to determine but i believe its still on the rise

20:05

neither side is good. everyone dies and nobody wins.

lodocus

but well, nato dropped over 1000 bombs (around 10k tons of explosive material) containing depleted uranium over serbian civilian population on august 30 1995

what about the bombing in 1999?

20:09

NATO was also responsible for that

24 march bombing?

Yeah

20:10

lasted till June 10th (edited)

mhm

20:12

its just soul crushing how these motherfuckers do whatever they want and get away with it without consequences

lodocus

i guess serbia was right after all?

About what?

20:15

Serbia and Croatia got into a war back then

20:16

Croatia wants to be independent, Serbia is pissed, did a lot of crimes and stuff

20:16

Yeah I heard that from someone who's Croatian in a server I'm in

DeRosenberg

About what?

telling alija that theyve made a mistake taking side with nato and germany

Huh

DeRosenberg

Yeah I heard that from someone who's Croatian in a server I'm in

Croats and Serbs still don't get along

20:16

even after all these years

Yeah

no wonder

I heard that Serbia wants Greater Serbia

even though I live in Serbia, I don't even know what our president even wants

Kosovo

even back in the 90s, he made huge claims about a 'great Serbia'

I have no problem with Serbs and Croats obviously

I personally don't have problems with Croats

Betajyst4094

Kosovo

Egypt recognised Kosovo in 2013

20:19

Also with Canada, US, Nordic Countries, Albania, Turkey, South Korea, Japan, Israel, etc

No shi

#RadMorning

even back in the 90s, he made huge claims about a 'great Serbia'

I remember a claim recently, saying that "Serbians" want war (edited)

let me guess - because of Kosovo?

Idk

20:22

They weren't specific about it

20:22

Oh wait

20:22

Because of their Serbian world it seems

20:22

"Or else they'll "go extinct""

im afraid that the eastern bloc and middle east might continue living in hatred, conflict and tyranny for more decades to come

Same

something has to change

I agree

I have a question

20:24

Should Kosovo become it's own state?

I have no idea

i dont know either

No one educated me regarding that topic

20:26

I feel a lot of people just... don't know what the whole ordeal is about

same. all i know about kosovo is that nato bombed the shit out of it in 1999

20:30

i think theyve used depleted uranium during those bombings too

20:30

these ammunitions supposed to be forbidden but

20:30

uuhhhh

20:30

haha! lole!!

America loves em sum war crimes lol

20:31

Many fucking war crimes

whatever lets just move on with life as usual!!

Let's not talk about napalm heeheehaa

20:32

White phosphorus hee

im telling you man. they just intervene with conflicts and just cause even more ruckus and chaos and fucking leave it at that

20:34

i have nothing against its people but those ruthless fuckers in power?

They will make sure there is chaos and discord in middle east. They don't want Muslim countries striving, hot take..

not a hot take

20:35

its for real

Weird how Israel's doing so fine amongst Palestine, Pakistan and etc, where shit's ripping itself apart troll

20:37

Sorry for the anti Semitism, but its kinda facts

i dont know which side is right. both got proper arguments against each other

Jews were accepted by these countries as refugees after what ww2 did to them and guess what, they thought the lands are now their property (edited)

20:38

And UN helped em "secure" it (rip it out of Palestine)

Betajyst4094

Sorry for the anti Semitism, but its kinda facts

anti Zionism, but not anti Semitism. Many zionist groups are trying to conflate any criticism of Israel with criticism of Jews, even though many orthodox Jews are not zionist.

back in 60s, right?

I don't like Zionists at all

20:39

Nothing against Jews in general (edited)

20:40

But that was really scummy

20:41

US are constantly helping out these people and even financing their projects (I.e. iron dome) (edited)

20:41

In fact Israel's government is pretty right wing

Betajyst4094

US are constantly helping out these people and even financing their projects (I.e. iron dome) (edited)

You must agree to not support BDS movements to get some state government contracts

It probably goes much deeper

Betajyst4094

Weird how Israel's doing so fine amongst Palestine, Pakistan and etc, where shit's ripping itself apart troll

Shit also happen in Egypt

20:43

Western countries are better

20:44

For me

20:44

Expect for NA

On is oily. Muslim countries in general aren't doing too well rn

Yea

Besides maybe Jordania and UAE

does israel count as a western country?

What about Kuwait

stellar

does israel count as a western country?

Yes

UAE is probably more secular than ever tho

not as much but compared to what they used to be, yeah

Wdym

uae is more secular than ever

I fucking hate how the US put dictatorships in South America

20:47

Like Chile, Brazil, etc

20:47

They even supported it

20:51

Would be better if the US didn't exist

Monroe Doctrine sez: "we own the Western Hemisphere"

Jk

20:51

lololol

20:52

nah. not a jk

20:52

its for real

I thought it would be stupid to say that

For all of the whining about foreign entities trying to influence American elections, Obama and Clinton endorsed Trudeau for PM this year.

Countries outside of the EU are less problematic

20:53

Like Norway and Switzerland

20:53

Those are cool

win32

For all of the whining about foreign entities trying to influence American elections, Obama and Clinton endorsed Trudeau for PM this year.

kinda interesting how the "foreign forces" apparently put americas (a super-nation) freedom to danger all the way from the other side of the pacific ocean

DeRosenberg

They even supported it

Well the whole apartheid thing, and their fetish of causing overthrows in 3rd world countries

20:55

US is trying to be something they are not

this

They supported a military junta at one point in Greece

20:56

1967

Obviously its fishy to me

Betajyst4094

Well the whole apartheid thing, and their fetish of causing overthrows in 3rd world countries

I mean the USSR and US supported the Free Officers movement that overthrow the Kingdom of Egypt

20:57

1952

They probably have their hands in the tumults in Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan (rn)

win32

For all of the whining about foreign entities trying to influence American elections, Obama and Clinton endorsed Trudeau for PM this year.

I heard Trudeau isn't doing good recently

Tikhanovskaya is a left wing, right? (edited)

20:58

@the Door guy Yo pal, sorry for the ping but is Nazarbaev out of the game?

@win32 how is Canada doing rn?

Betajyst4094

Tikhanovskaya is a left wing, right? (edited)

Economically, farther right than Lukashenko. Belarus is actually quite socialist with most major companies still being owned by the state

Indeed it is

21:00

And pretty loyal to Russia

21:00

That's why they helping their 'batka'

21:01

If not for their intervention, Lukashenko would be out long ago (edited)

DeRosenberg

I heard Trudeau isn't doing good recently

He was never doing good. Instead of taking a path of financial stability he started spending, spending right away, forced a carbon tax in several provinces and allied himself (just like Harper) with the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine

Inb4 the same pattern is repeating with Kazakhstan

win32

He was never doing good. Instead of taking a path of financial stability he started spending, spending right away, forced a carbon tax in several provinces and allied himself (just like Harper) with the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine

I mean everybody is allied with the US

win32

He was never doing good. Instead of taking a path of financial stability he started spending, spending right away, forced a carbon tax in several provinces and allied himself (just like Harper) with the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine

Yea that's a sketchy way of managing things lol

But otherwise yeah, I understand

pension plan contribution rates are going to go up a fair bit along with the carbon tax this year. Quebec is spared somewhat because we are not on the CPP and have a different carbon pricing system, but if things are transported through other provinces, you still have to pay the higher carbon tax rates.

I heard from somebody that Quebec is corrupted or something

21:05

And wants to go to the US

21:05

I wouldn't personally recommend him the US?

21:05

But it's his choice

21:05

I mean I was looking forward to the us but now I don't think so

win32

pension plan contribution rates are going to go up a fair bit along with the carbon tax this year. Quebec is spared somewhat because we are not on the CPP and have a different carbon pricing system, but if things are transported through other provinces, you still have to pay the higher carbon tax rates.

We lead the rate anyway lol

DeRosenberg

I heard from somebody that Quebec is corrupted or something

It certainly is. Trying to find a place that is not is a real challenge.

21:07

Several people from this server want me to move to the US.

Although the US is corrupted just like Canada

Going back to what I said just above. Pentagon leads the charge.

21:08

But I also remember watching channel 11 from NYC and seeing the ads against NJ senator Bob Menendez which said he was found guilty of corruption. However, he continued to run and win elections.

Oh Christ

21:09

Oh it's WPIX

21:11

I know a few Americans that want to move to Canada but I don't because I search for more info and stuff

21:11

I guess

They dropped the charges, but was subjected to a decision by the Senate ethics committee which included this info:

DeRosenberg

Although the US is corrupted just like Canada

i firmly believe canada is less corrupted than america (edited)

I think so

It probably is, I still have some belief in the political and judicial systems of this country, some of the time.

and north americas corruption can barely be considered corruption compared to the south america, africa and far east (edited)

21:15

you are very lucky to live in canada. i dont mean you shouldnt learn more about what is actually going on and who is right in the world of politics of course, but do not let these stuff possibly hold you back from what you want to achieve in life (edited)

Western US and Canada

21:16

But they are damn expensive

21:16

Like this California here

21:16

And British Columbia

Betajyst4094

@the Door guy Yo pal, sorry for the ping but is Nazarbaev out of the game?

i think

VMware Workstation 15 doesn't work on latest Linux kernel

06:39

Now I'm ready to start my new life

06:59

in Detroit

06:59

I heard it's much safer than Knoxville, TN.

06:59

Tomorrow morning I start packing my bags.

07:00

he’s drunk, everyone

I bought 9 acres of property there already

07:02

No one can stop win32

07:02

Unless you are Windows 9x

07:02

Then your 16 bit code makes no sense to me

win5270

he’s drunk, everyone

At least not in a state of delirium

07:03

I feel delirious as fuck

07:03

Did I catch something

I could start signing some jingles too in this chat if requested

Some Nordic atnhems

Those aren't interesting to me, unfortunately

Attans..

I am also too shy somehow

07:09

I don't want to break into "See all you want to see Turn on Service Electric" In this chat either

RaduTek

VMware Workstation 15 doesn't work on latest Linux kernel

linux moment

07:10

compat always breaks with older propietary shit

07:10

thank you stallman, very cool

win32

I don't want to break into "See all you want to see Turn on Service Electric" In this chat either

Why not

07:16

I just realized that I have a course that is supposed to start in like 38 hours and I haven't heard a damn thing of what it's supposed to be about

07:18

And also, I need to start learning rayn tracing

win32

in Detroit

For real?

wassup?

hi

my moyher told me internet and bank will be off till monday

11:37

i was able to get on internet just now bc uhh idk

ok

Wait are you actually moving to Detroit or something @win32

14:33

Just wondering

if anyone wants their discord client to be smooth either use ripcord or lightcord. (btw lightcord speed is night and day diffrence) (edited)

DeRosenberg

Wait are you actually moving to Detroit or something @win32

He is not (edited)

Oh

15:43

~~I'm stupid~~

Not stupid at all.

You're not stupid, we just fool around a lot in here

Alright

I was being serious at that time of day.

15:46

You will note that my level of intoxication has declined since then.

.......

15:47

Win32 goin be ballin off 8 mile and gratiot street

15:47

21:38

Well...

Goo

goo goo

22:13

ga ga

22:14

^google in 2022

Hiya!

hi

Hi

Ninja style (edited)

what

'Hiya' sounds like a ninja

https://mee6.xyz/nft

MEE6 NFT Avatars — 8,888 NFTs to own

MEE6 Avatars are a set of 8,888 unique on-chain generated NFT avatars living on the Ethereum blockchain. MEE6 is a Discord bot used by more than 16 millions servers.

16:04

oh fuck no

don't use mee6

-warn @RaduTek promoting NFT propaganda ☭

I don't use any bots :))

RaduTek#2288 has been warned.

i wasn't promoting such shit

You linked it, Comrade

16:06

I'm just kidding, btw

16:06

Ik

lol

16:06

I'm not pure anymore (edited)

Lol

Radu got a taste of Brazil

A tiny sample like those from supermarkets

Free sample yes

I always hate when people approach me to give me stupid flyers or product samples

16:09

I just don't care

why not

16:09

product samples rock

they're generally either crappy

there was this perfume shop my sister used to force me to pass by just for free samples lol

or usually those flyers are something about God

it's a really good shop though so i guess it's fine

RaduTek

or usually those flyers are something about God

what

fucking hell imagine your laptop not getting really hot when plugging in to charge

Deleted User

what

I've seen some really stupid antivaxx flyers handed in front of a church by some people unaffiliated to the church

16:11

I've also seen one that was against barcodes on products saying they were tracking us using them or whatever

RaduTek

I've also seen one that was against barcodes on products saying they were tracking us using them or whatever

That one is really bullshit

RaduTek

I've seen some really stupid antivaxx flyers handed in front of a church by some people unaffiliated to the church

this one is more/less bullshit (edited)

16:12

more actually

because somebody looked at the EAN-8 barcode and found that the 3 vertical lines that delimit the code and separate the 2 parts might match with the encoding for the number 6 (for the first half though)

RaduTek

I've seen some really stupid antivaxx flyers handed in front of a church by some people unaffiliated to the church

Yep that's dumb

antivaxxers use autism as the reason to not vaccinate their kids

16:13

almost all the time

see those lines that protrude to the numbers

that's like the only reason

Scamdisk

antivaxxers use autism as the reason to not vaccinate their kids

That is really dumb

RaduTek

see those lines that protrude to the numbers

some claim those mean 666

autism is treated like the worst thing in the world

16:14

when it's not

16:14

also don't get me started on Autism Speaks

Scamdisk

antivaxxers use autism as the reason to not vaccinate their kids

I did not get a measles vaccine for that reason, but I did get every other one

and some claim even the "inventor of barcodes" acknowledged to have done it intentionally 1) there are many barcode standards made by many companies 2) they're released by companies, not one individual 3) if somebody makes something evil, it doesn't need to contain 666, sign of beast or whatever (in real life, people can just hide things, they don't have to leave traces for "internet heroes" to elucidate the evil) (edited)

16:15

some people really think they're living in a movie, where everything has hidden meanings that need to be elucidated

Have you guys seen the RCA barcode design? groovy

nice pun

Anyway I think the company I worked for was assigned a block that started with 69 for their barcodes. Can't remember the rest...

69

16:18

nice

Nice

“Din punct de vedere bioenergetic, prin activarea codurilor de bare, se elibereaza campuri care viciaza armonia produsului”, spune Ölwin Pichler, seful Centrului de Formare in Stiintele Naturale din Wolfratshausen

Some romanian news article from a supposedly trusted source: translated: "From a bioenergetic perspective, by activating barcodes, fields are released that break the product's armony" says Ölwin Pichler, supposedly boss of some nature science center thing (edited)

16:19

the fucking barcodes are read by light

16:19

specifically Red light

16:19

what fucking fields is he talking about??

Oh my god

RaduTek

some claim those mean 666

lmaooooooo what

16:21

that is super dumb lol

this is why they say that

16:26

see in the 2nd half, 6 is 2 thin vertical lines

16:26

and the delimiter lines are also 2 thin vertical lines

16:27

so obviously some dumbass that was capable enough to count the number of lines thought they're doing this because Satan

RaduTek

this is why they say that

Yes

RaduTek

this is why they say that

wow so creepy

and I found an article that says that when the biblical apocalypse will come we'll be stamped with QR codes and have chips with barcodes on it

16:30

‍♂️

16:30

this is why we can't have nice things

‍♂️

we'll be fucked till the boomers fade away

Covid wiped a few of them

????

16:33

you want your grandparents dead?

16:33

that's a very wrong thing to say, regardless of how they act

I don't want

16:33

And it is unfortunate

appreciate them while you can :(

RaduTek

some claim those mean 666

what

16:41

how

16:41

how the actual fuck?

16:42

oh

16:42

lmao

win32

I did not get a measles vaccine for that reason, but I did get every other one

wait wtf even if you did believe that shit, wouldn't that not matter since you're already on the spectrum?

Ximonite

wait wtf even if you did believe that shit, wouldn't that not matter since you're already on the spectrum?

you can't get autism if you are already autistic

17:05

You guys do know that autism can't be acquired post embryonic state right? (edited)

yea

and you do know this is a joke

17:12

I know, was just making sure it's all irony

looks like you can get autism in a "post embryonic state"

I have met people who believe autism can be acquired from vaccines, that's where I lost faith..

stellar

looks like you can get autism in a "post embryonic state"

What?

nvm

Betajyst4094

I have met people who believe autism can be acquired from vaccines, that's where I lost faith..

17:13

i haven't met anyone like that yet thankfully

These people are older than me

17:14

Some by decade

17:14

I'm tired of the fake conspiracy bullshit getting distributed in whatsapp and facebook by these tinfoil hatters (edited)

17:15

One can only get so illiterate

17:15

And people fall for it. can't really blame for that though (edited)

Ximonite

wait wtf even if you did believe that shit, wouldn't that not matter since you're already on the spectrum?

Those are administered so young that it wouldn't have been my choice. I think at around 12 months or less. (edited)

17:29

I wasn't known to be autistic until 2 or 3.

17:32

Anyway I see that a second dose did the job in Canada when it was introduced in 1997. (edited)

17:32

Betajyst4094

I have met people who believe autism can be acquired from vaccines, that's where I lost faith..

So I wouldn't be neurodivergent had I dodged those cursed vaccines for school as a kid? flush

22:08

Jk obviously

@Ximonite is your user pfp (not server one) custom drawn?

probably piccrew

22:20

i bet it's piccrew

not the picrew one

fuck

yeah

user pfp

oh user pfp

my server pfp is picrew tho

i meant user one

i haven't seen the user one

yea ik

ImSwordQueen

i haven't seen the user one

should appear when you look at my profile

go to BW, easy

i saw it

to answer the original question, my gf found a drawing of a couple that looks like us, so we set our pfps to the faces of the characters

1

that's cute

oh. cute

:D

wish i was in love :(( (edited)

you will find one someday (edited)

don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis

ImSwordQueen

you will find one someday (edited)

true i guess

Deleted User

don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis

disable it then

how

22:28

Deleted User

how

it's in Text & Images in discord settings

o h

22:29

i am certainly dumb (edited)

oh damn she actually checks wls

1

22:42

didn't expect

22:42

also I hope you guys find someone someday

thanks

wtf discord finally made gifs not reset if you switch accounts

22:45

neato

cool

have you all noticed that shroomer has been really inactive lately

not just him

shroomer lost his account iirc

wait how

what

He got locked out of his account and started a new one which isn't in this server yet

how does someone get locked out of their acc

22:49

i get that losing 2fa codes is really easy but i didn't except to be that easy

He is also flunking all of his classes so he probably needs to shift gears from discord

win32

He is also flunking all of his classes so he probably needs to shift gears from discord

yeah that

22:50

actually

22:50

we lost all advisors lately

what even is the role of an advisor

22:51

pls no simple answer (aka give advice)

a between to moderator and not having powers

yeah but why??

22:52

doesn't this server have a large enough mod team

ImSwordQueen

we lost all advisors lately

huh nvm. massclaw is one

it's not like much issues arise everyday anyway and we're not even a hundered people

22:54

(personal opinion ofc so don't go killing me, your server = your rules)

the server is semi public at this point

is it

yeah

22:54

the invite isn't that spread around

i personally prefer it that way

22:55

big servers are a trouble to keep up with and i alr can't keep up here

22:56

actually scratch that, i can't keep up with discord in general and guess what i only have 2 servers

Deleted User

big servers are a trouble to keep up with and i alr can't keep up here

Yep

22:57

That and there's more nonsense

(if i disappear after jan 10 it's no surprise as school starts again. and i expect that to happen.)

I'm happy to say this server I'd pretty decently well behaved

yeah

Deleted User

big servers are a trouble to keep up with and i alr can't keep up here

Big servers are a pain to deal with

suicide and death

00:25

is what i have to say

00:27

chip da ripper

Vruh 2

chip da ripper

interior crocodile alligator i drive a chevrolet movie theater

s

00:51

l

00:51

a

00:51

b

i need to figure out how to set git up before i absurdly fuck up my code

03:23

word

Once again I wake up at 4 am

03:50

And I find a giant fucking orange under my pillow

1

03:50

Did I get drunk

03:50

I like oranges though, no problem

what

I just about manage to not do that

why is my watermark

03:58

why

doors back, maybe? possibly?

In private/windows/base/client/module.c I recommend that you remove this if statement

Vruh 2

what

I don't know

win32

In private/windows/base/client/module.c I recommend that you remove this if statement

elaborate further

I love oranges, might as well cut and devour this stuff

Vruh 2

elaborate further

It will make the linker work faster and better. It's absolutely not about getting revenge on elmo

no comments

Oh that what wasn't to me

it was (edited)

Ah

win32

It will make the linker work faster and better. It's absolutely not about getting revenge on elmo

Vista x64 has this code too, I'm removing it as well.

Oranges smell good. They also have 1-nonanol in their peel

please spotify enough ads

04:03

2pacalypse now

04:07

now for whatever reason razzle doesn't want to compile win32k

04:07

i already fixed the watermark like 30 minutes ago

04:07

but razzle insists on not fucking compiling

This orange is good

04:22

Really good stuff

04:22

Who bought it??

oh yeah tomorrow i'll try getting an iso uploaded of xp 5.2

04:22

i need winlogon stripped of wpa though

Genuinely weirded out rn

maybe the damn tooth fairy put it there

Everyone: @win5270 is drunk

If I were to be drunk, I'd have a nasty headache keeping me sure

04:24

Nice timing

win32

Everyone: @win5270 is drunk

no

04:24

i dont drink

I guess I got trolled

04:24

But everyone knows my love for oranges

04:25

Wtf...

win5270

maybe the damn tooth fairy put it there

She wouldn't like my caries

how do i get access to pshed.dll

it runs in ring 0

04:37

y'all run in ring 3

ImSwordQueen

i get that losing 2fa codes is really easy but i didn't except to be that easy

get a new phone and forget to get your backup codes off the old one before getting rid of it

06:57

i lost a decent amount of bitcoin recently that way

Wonder what you would call those things at the bottom...

gm

bmw

Morning, even though now it's 12pm

Captchas in the future...

moment

11:35

‍♂️

11:35

imagine if businesses would get that treating their workers like humans and paying them well makes them work better

RaduTek

Captchas in the future...

god

RaduTek

Captchas in the future...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818576404526006273/819132438575185930/video0_4.mp4

Michael

get a new phone and forget to get your backup codes off the old one before getting rid of it

It comes at a huge cost so just keep an eye on it if you wish to activate it.

bruh moment from youtube: automatically created chapters

RaduTek

Captchas in the future...

lol now i see that pic is so blur

installed the windows terminal on ltsc and customized powershell

b l u e

y no OEM

cause its not an OEM pc

alrighty

null null using null null with null null score:

RaduTek

Captchas in the future...

huehuehue

3

you can literally splatter different build setups on xp

18:46

the file is winntbbu

18:47

this is 2428's winntbbu

I've done that before

19:27

With 2296's ntbbu

docR

Click to see attachment 🖼️

"Ewwww daddy you're scaring people"

19:34

or smth like that

20:05

hmm

20:05

that flag looks familiar

Deleted User

"Ewwww daddy you're scaring people"

Oh daddy. You're embarassing me!

im not really a spongebob veteran

20:10

just enjoyer

20:11

actually i know more than just an enjoyer

20:11

watched 2 full seasons mostly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/929484013322797157/2022-01-08_18-16-52.mp4

21:18

i'm not a trolla i just troll a lot

21:21

2474 wrapper my ass

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/929486164187041843/2022-01-08_18-25-32.mp4

21:31

animates 3 times now

21:31

just like 2474

21:31

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834213768086683660/876193642082086992/bandicam_2021-07-03_12-38-33-940.mp4

21:31

here's it in comparison

logonui.exe

732 KB

didn't microsoft tried doing that with longhorn as well?

21:42

with the animation

no?

21:45

the flag flew inwards with lh but it didn't animate in this way

obv a different flag

22:03

but still an animated flag

ImSwordQueen

didn't microsoft tried doing that with longhorn as well?

kind of

22:38

it animated from the top

22:38

but not quite this

22:38

this looks cooler troll

Vruh 2

it animated from the top

yeah, that

22:39

that's what i meant by flew inwards

22:39

looks like swordking didn't get what i mean

gm

Good morning

Morning

гуд морнинг

Good afternoon

12:09

12:10

Hacked a PS2 SingStar USB microphone adapter to use as a stereo audio input interface

dongle moment

I wish my laptop's manufacturer didn't disable the jack retasking feature of the audio chip

12:11

otherwhise I could've used the audio chip's built in ADC

12:11

right now I can only do 1 channel microphone input through that jack using a splitter adapter

well frankly it's by the same company that can't make their OS 100% consistent

but why disable a feature that's built in to the chip, they put extra work to do that

12:12

(probably not as they had to configure the chip anyways for the speakers and microphones)

12:13

I initially bought a cheap USB sound card for this, but it turned out to be a piece of shit

12:13

only mono audio input

12:13

and the thing lacks DC blocking capacitors on the audio output so it feeds 2.8 V DC to headphones for no other reason than to ensure they'll blow up

Scamdisk

dongle moment

I should make a photo of my dongle collection

when return youtube dislike does not return dislike

Refresh it

19:36

Or restart your browser

RaduTek

https://mee6.xyz/nft

They are just taking advantage of the moment, but why would you even try this with such a property, maybe it's just experimentation.

don't use mee6

It's a staple to walk by, it wasn't a great bot to begin with.

we lost all advisors lately

It really haven't changed, some just moved up the chain.

have you all noticed that shroomer has been really inactive lately

It's abnormal but it's was the holiday season and other factors to consider for the disappearance.

I've also seen one that was against barcodes on products saying they were tracking us using them or whatever

Isn't identifying items the sole reason for their existance?

I'm tired of the fake conspiracy bullshit getting distributed in whatsapp and facebook by these tinfoil hatters

It keeps happening, but guess that's life for them.

Anyway I see that a second dose did the job in Canada when it was introduced in 1997.

Maybe it had more of a foundation than anyone would've believed back then.

don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis

Just disable it, it's for the better.

Refresh it

For disabled ratios, it now shows disabled likes and dislikes rather than showing zero. (edited)

> don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis Just disable it, it's for the better.

I did

19:49

here, see :)

Ah, thought you had some other issue where it switches back to being on since you switch accounts across multiple phones and apps or something like that.

MassClaw

They are just taking advantage of the moment, but why would you even try this with such a property, maybe it's just experimentation.

don't use mee6

It's a staple to walk by, it wasn't a great bot to begin with.

we lost all advisors lately

It really haven't changed, some just moved up the chain.

have you all noticed that shroomer has been really inactive lately

It's abnormal but it's was the holiday season and other factors to consider for the disappearance.

I've also seen one that was against barcodes on products saying they were tracking us using them or whatever

Isn't identifying items the sole reason for their existance?

I'm tired of the fake conspiracy bullshit getting distributed in whatsapp and facebook by these tinfoil hatters

It keeps happening, but guess that's life for them.

Anyway I see that a second dose did the job in Canada when it was introduced in 1997.

Maybe it had more of a foundation than anyone would've believed back then.

don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis

Just disable it, it's for the better.

Refresh it

For disabled ratios, it now shows disabled likes and dislikes rather than showing zero. (edited)

Oh

well i do have my account on like 5 "devices" or something now

19:55

devices in quotes because it's just oses of the same things

It's fine, as long as it's a different setup it vaguely counts.

i.e: 7 on my crap celeron laptop with chromium 7 (on a retired hdd) and debian with chromium my phone via the android client and on web as well + my ubuntu xfce4 desktop on my phone (which i'm currently on) my tab via the android client and on web (edited)

19:56

gee that's like 8 lol

Yes that does count, it's probably better as is, seeing chromium caching it for more than a week if inactive.

introducing the youtube mobile website on desktop chrome

love live fan

go to youtube -> right click and choose inspect -> enable device toolbar -> go to the mobile website -> close out of webtools

ah yes kanal d (edited)

21:13

one of my grandmas loves turkish dramas

why would you want the mobile view on desktop

just for a test, and its also an oversight from youtube (edited)

i still keep around a 2019 version of youtube vanced because i prefer the 2019 mobile ui alot compared to the new stuff

21:14

it's nearing time to upgrade (edited)

Vanced follows the same layout? that's a shame. (edited)

timestamps don't work properly anymore

21:15

notifications don't work in the app

21:15

sometimes it takes 5 minutes to load up the app

Yes they are messing around with the description box behind the scenes. So expect changes. (edited)

leaving vanced on and shutting off the screen makes it stop loading shit for 5 minutes

Typical api stuff.

on the other hand it's old 2019 mobile ui which was respectable at the least

21:16

with the comments on the bottom and description not being a box

They are weirdly still at differentiating the desktop layout from the app one, as opposed to what they have said before about unifying them. Maybe that was just planned and didn't roll into production. (edited)

RaduTek

one of my grandmas loves turkish dramas

one of my grandmas as well lmao (edited)

https://www.xda-developers.com/dell-xps-13-plus

João Carrasqueira

Dell XPS 13 Plus: Release date, price, and everything you need to know

Dell recently announced the XPS 13 Plus laptops featuring 12th-gen Intel processors and a new design. Here's everything we know about it.

21:52

New Dell XPS do be looking hot ngl

21:52

I think I know what my next laptop will be (edited)

21:52

Though this will be years later from now

RaduTek

https://www.xda-developers.com/dell-xps-13-plus

where's the trackpad

That's what I'm curious about, the entire palmrest is glass

21:53

So it could be a really huge trackpad

has a 3050 ti, right?

No, the XPS 13 doesn't come in dGPU variants iirc

21:54

But if Intel advances with their GPUs we might see a newer Gen of the XPS 13 Plus with ARC graphics

21:55

I sure hope that they won't launch it with the touch function key row

21:55

Apple removed the touchbar for a reason

21:57

Also I wish it had Mini LED

22:01

Maybe waiting for the 2nd gen of it will make it a better buy

22:01

13th gen Intel when

vanced is vanilla, but with extra options and no ads

22:26

i hold the opinion the youtube app is designed just fine, its a bit sketchier on the desktop side, though

22:26

i mean it hasn't changed that much since polyfill

22:27

it was the most functional between like 2009 and 2012

22:27

cosmic panda killed channel customization, but it was very functional. the last truly very functional desktop youtube

22:27

its more like netflix now

22:27

fine for just watching videos, but i'm not particularly compelled to interact with the community anymore

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/929777871369695342/2022-01-09_13-44-37.mp4 i fucked up the fadeout and the bitmap doesn't look very good (edited)

22:41

but here's this

22:42

and apparently i forgot how the windows logo looks?

22:42

lmfao

Wtf based

22:56

Minecraft not having nfts??

22:56

So based

It's a dying fad, man, it won't last for long just like signed stuff.

kinda want to make a visual style like this

23:40

made this like 10 minutes ago out of the fucking nowhere

Why is Twitter recommending me whores

03:38

It's not even a me issue

03:39

Tapping on it you just see endless comments from confused people that get these notifs

03:39

It's especially disturbing when Twitter says my age is between 13 and 65

Someone, who is apparently 14, asked me if I was a "twitter femboy"!

I can probably imagine some kid getting grounded since parents saw such notifs

03:47

And there is no fucking "not interested" button

03:48

Well there is a "show less often" option in the notifications tab in the app

03:48

But the notification vanishes after you block the person

03:49

RaduTek

Why is Twitter recommending me whores

These are all new changes recently.

Ah yes "improvements"

04:03

Microsoft literally say that they don't recommend the use of registry cleaner programs

04:04

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/microsoft-support-policy-for-the-use-of-registry-cleaning-utilities-0485f4df-9520-3691-2461-7b0fd54e8b3a

They do have some truth in them though.

https://www.ghacks.net/2022/01/09/veracrypt-1-25-7-update-reintroduces-support-for-windows-vista-7-and-8-systems/

VeraCrypt 1.25.7 update reintroduces support for Windows Vista, 7 a...

The latest version of the open source encryption software VeraCrypt brings back support for the operating systems Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8.

06:19

hmm yes

06:20

dropping support only to bring it back one month later

this is a new one

06:35

reintroducing vista 7 and 8 support

what fanatic puts spaces in their passwords

maniac*

06:47

god fucking knows

06:48

all i know is that i have an officialbuilt 3790 pro

Vruh 2

reintroducing vista 7 and 8 support

Anyone who ties an OS upgrade to an hardware upgrade will not be upgrading OSes because of the hardware crises. So Windows 7 stays. (edited)

(means it would be closer to an actual retail iso)

06:48

with that being said i still don't have updated certs or anything so even though there is no timebomb you'd still be installing in 2021 date

06:49

and i don't feel like patching setup api thing

06:50

hmm fake xpclient

06:50

definitely not the branch xp 3790 would've been compiled in

it would still been srv03rtm

yeah

06:51

but hey

06:51

xpclient funny trol

06:52

and of course i fucking overwrote the decompiled winlogon

damn did you just change branch without getting errors (edited)

gotta get that compiled again

Scamdisk

damn did you just change branch without getting errors (edited)

not only that

06:52

i got no errors on the first clean build

bruh

and my postbuild was absurdly fucked up

inb4 because symbols

yeah

06:52

because of symbols

06:53

actually no

06:53

symbols wouldn't break the final product

06:53

but my driver.cab managed to be 19mb

driver.cab 19mb

06:53

bruh

and then chkdsk wiped out all of the missing binaries out of binares.x86fre

06:53

because i copied them over from windows 11 (edited)

chkdsk

ofc

otherwise i got a working base

06:54

i wish i could git the entire source tree

06:54

that'd take 9 years and it'd probably fuck up with line endings and kill the entire thing

06:54

i just wanted version control

06:55

trolla

06:55

since when does 7 come with consolas

06:56

oh wait

06:56

i installed vscode

06:56

that's why

06:56

me dumb

06:56

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834207032437243974/929949498220879922/unknown.png i've said it here before but i might do a visual style on this

oh yeah theme service doesn't start on first boot

07:28

decompiled winlogon thing

for me ik it didnt even start with og winlogon too

07:31

well patched og winlogon

nah it starts with the og winlogon for me

Vruh 2

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834207032437243974/929949498220879922/unknown.png i've said it here before but i might do a visual style on this

Familiar

yeah

07:31

it looks like jade

Where uoy find that?

i made it

Ah, looks good

actually theme service is horrendously broken in this

07:35

what the fuck

07:35

it worked once and now it's completely broken

07:35

what the fuck even happened

what in the fuck

seriously broke

07:38

no idea why it did this

07:38

i literally had this decompiled winlogon on another source tree and that one worked fine with the exception of the first boot really

bruh what

09:05

i uninstalled yt vanced from my phone and it actually bricked the thing

09:05

it literally doesn't boot anymore

bruh?

09:05

how the fuck would uninstalling yt vanced do that

i have no idea

09:06

the last thing i saw before rebooting and never starting up again was "this is a system app you cannot uninstall it"

09:06

so of course

09:06

i uninstalled it

09:06

it started up in the background after 5 minutes

09:06

that

09:06

was a slow bootup

oh well

09:14

now i cant install vanced anymore

newpipe it is i guess

vanced manager stays at 0% and if i just install the apk manually it just says app not installed

09:15

what is newpile

09:15

newpipe

https://newpipe.net/

NewPipe - a free YouTube client

09:16

a yt client that isnt a modded official one

cant log in

09:17

heeeeelll noooo

gm

Scamdisk

a yt client that isnt a modded official one

it's open source actually

12:50

you can make it look like yt i guess with the light theme

hello from mac mini g4

wtf discord lite

this is a client made by the same dude who made those version for unsupported macs patchers

16:37

dosdude1

16:38

https://github.com/dosdude1/discord-lite/

GitHub - dosdude1/discord-lite: An ultra-lightweight native Discord...

An ultra-lightweight native Discord client for vintage and modern Mac OS - GitHub - dosdude1/discord-lite: An ultra-lightweight native Discord client for vintage and modern Mac OS

run sierra on the g4

(edited)

no

the fact that old ass macos gets a native discord client before XP would ever

what are your thoughts on discord friends

I don't think anyone online can be your truthful friend unless you meet them irl

i mean, as in the feature lol

Scamdisk

hello from mac mini g4

Thought that was ripcord first glance

Scamdisk

this is a client made by the same dude who made those version for unsupported macs patchers

Eyyy

I may be realkek fanboy, but for those specs why not Intel WiFi?

19:56

my friend's laptop with AMD everything has Intel wifi

19:57

https://www.realtek.com/en/products/product-hits/item/high-speed-wireless-internet-access

what's wrong with realtek wifi

ohh it's WiFi 6 capable, so it's good

19:57

I thought it was AC only

Deleted User

what's wrong with realtek wifi

nothing

does it really matter if the card is made by realtek or by intel anyway..

out of all USB WiFi dongles I've had, the ones with Realtek chips were the most reliable

i only know one thing: if you use ics for so long any wifi card fucks up

19:58

it just disappears from the system entirely...

Deleted User

does it really matter if the card is made by realtek or by intel anyway..

it matters only in terms of name :)))

Deleted User

i only know one thing: if you use ics for so long any wifi card fucks up

i mean I'd blame that on bad design

19:59

since I have old arse Pocket PC PDAs whose WiFi G still works just fine (edited)

you know what ics is right?

I found an old russian webpage from a guy that made modded firmware for these

20:00

IIRC it was something from Texas Instruments

20:00

also I'm currently using my bluetooth headphones wired with a cable to my Realtek HD Audio codec chip

20:00

because I'm too lazy to configure the EQ profile for the bluetooth connection, as the headphones have their own EQ that I don't like that much

RaduTek

IIRC it was something from Texas Instruments

is that an answer to my question?

are you referring to IC (Integrated Circuit) or ICS? (edited)

20:01

since no caps makes acronyms confusing (edited)

20:03

you probably wouldn't have guessed it anyway

20:03

also yes this is an rdp session

I don't think that would break a WiFi card

20:04

like it would put almost the same stress as if it were connected to an AP

20:04

maybe it would work it a bit more as it works in AP mode

20:04

but still it should be able to handle it

it did, occasionally (edited)

20:05

the wifi card would disappear for a week or two

20:05

then come back on its own

dodgy hardware connection? (edited)

nah

20:05

because if i don't use that it never happens

Deleted User

also yes this is an rdp session

how did you get Aero in RDP

remotefx

20:05

and a 100mpbs lan cable

I think Server 2008 has an option for it, but I can't get it to work

easy

20:05

gpedit.msc

Deleted User

and a 100mpbs lan cable

jokes on you I have Gigabit

on BOTH computers

fine on BOTH computers

lol

20:06

the receiver has to have remotefx tunneling or whatever enabled

20:06

i'll take a screenshot

RaduTek

jokes on you I have Gigabit

sorry, lan card is limited to 100mbps on my rubbish ideapad

same on my Eee PC

my asus zenbook laptop has intel wifi card (edited)

and on my 2014 Asus Celeron Potatobook thing

20:07

but funnily my 2004 Acer laptop has gigabit ethernet

lmao

20:07

must've been high end

not sure

20:08

the build quality is cheap as fuck

20:08

it feels so flimsy

say what

20:08

i guess you only need it on the receiver then lol

20:08

imma check, wait

20:10

this is the reciever (identical looking, i know)

20:11

and those are the only 2 settings i have configured..

I wish Discord would let you pin messages for yourself only

also make sure you do this and not detect network connection

like a star feature

RaduTek

I wish Discord would let you pin messages for yourself only

use BD + plugin

I use web discord

ah

20:12

hmm

20:12

well you could store them in dms with someone

20:13

don't you have a second acc?

I do

20:13

but meh

well if only discord has a "Saved Messages" feature like telegram

20:14

that is perfect for me

do I need a Server 2008 host for REmoteFX

no

20:14

this is windows 7

also does it require the remote client to be WIndows 7? (edited)

well, pretty sure these policies are only available in 7sp1/server 2008r2

20:16

and up

yeah I presumed

(host needs to be server 2008 and up, but not vista)

but what if I connected from windows 10 to server 2008

20:16

would it render aero or not

do you have aero enabled on there first

20:17

you need to install something from server manager to get it first, and then it should work via rdp sessions

20:17

oh and btw this works until windows 10 build 19043.928 (aka 21h1 rtm)

Gut ebeing

Guten Abend!

Deleted User

Gut ebeing

what

Anyhow, the original intention with os ranks were to include the ones you use on a daily basis. But it wasn't clearly what people used it for. (edited)

21:26

I think there's enough colour

yeah

Deleted User

what

that means good evening

21:26

ah

21:26

good evening to you too

21:26

in radal's babuska english

#RadMorning

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Why is your screenshot almost look like it was screenshotted on an iPhone

#RadMorning

Guten Abend!

Bonsoir

DeRosenberg

Why is your screenshot almost look like it was screenshotted on an iPhone

It's clipped.

Clipped?

Clipped. From desktop.

Oh

MassClaw

Anyhow, the original intention with os ranks were to include the ones you use on a daily basis. But it wasn't clearly what people used it for. (edited)

does anyone use nt 3.x or nt 4 daily

23:01

nah

Yeah, not realistically, but i've seen some that actually are in the context of their workload and all that.

Does anyone have a driver for the intel 6235 windows vista

02:09

Because there’s only an XP and 8 version

02:09

And I have tried extracting the.EXE file

02:09

But I never get any INI files

Welcome, one second.

02:12

Are you referring to: Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6235?

Yes

Oh ok then.

This is what I got when I extracted the .exe:

02:14

That was the windows xp version (edited)

Tha'ts the XP one right? Have you tried 7's one? https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/NETWORK-CARD/INTEL/Intel-Centrino-Advanced-N-6235-PROSet-Wireless-Driver-Software-19-70-0-for-Windows-7-64-bit.shtml

Download Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 PROSet/Wireless Driver/Soft...

Download Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 PROSet/Wireless Driver/Software 19.70.0 for Windows 7 64-bit (Network Card)

No not yet

02:15

I will try

02:19

02:20

It seems like it extracted tho

Just proceed.

Same stuff

02:21

Hm, not good.

I do have another pc that can run windows vista

02:22

In terms of Wi-Fi drivers

02:22

Maybe I should use that

You probably should, there is an inherent lack of trustable sources for this driver.

Both of the laptops have a annoying GPU though . I can get 3-D drivers to work but not aero

It's a small price to pay.

@Dean's Tech Corner🌙 https://support.lenovo.com/bo/en/downloads/ds030245

02:35

i have that same wifi card in my thinkpad which runs vista. this driver works fine

A generic driver for this thing? Nice.

MassClaw

A generic driver for this thing? Nice.

I couldn’t get that to work so I think I’m going to use windows 7

interesting how it works fine on my machine that has the same exact card with vista

#RadMorning

I think there's enough colour

no you don't understand

06:11

rather than have OS or country roles set your color

06:11

have roles to set your color

06:11

the OS stuff can remain

06:11

especially since some colors are just hard to read since they're too dark

not much yet

taskbar be looking nice tho

well that was the only thing i changed

Morning

gm

hd audio I guess

12:30

don't wanna change my nickname :P

win5270

interesting how it works fine on my machine that has the same exact card with vista

ac 7260 vista driver when

Ximonite

hd audio I guess

lmao

12:36

i can't see that though https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/723152377611550750.png?v=1&size=40

how do i install windows vista on TO a usb? (edited)

13:50

wintousb does not work

Deleted User

wintousb does not work

tried winsetupfromusb?

13:51

that worked for me many times

is that just to make a bootable usb or installing a full os to a usb?

bootable usb

bruh

oh wait

13:52

i see

13:52

you shouldnt install oses on usb's

i dont have a spare hard drive

13:52

i really want to use vista again

13:53

just for some time

13:54

guess im making a partition on my 500gb hdd

Ximonite

hd audio I guess

yayyy

@Deleted User you should change your nickname to "VIA Vinyl AC'97 Audio" (edited)

he has via hd audio tho

ac97 is better 4ktroll

nahh

13:57

the front panel connector design for AC'97 is dumb

13:57

HD audio supports connector retasking :D

what is that

basically you can assign any jack to whatever purpose you like

13:58

you plug in a jack, the PC prompts you to select what you plugged in

also lspci says my audio controller is intel while it uses soundmax drivers in windows

13:59

strange

I think it's because Intel made the standard

14:00

and it uses PCI ID 8086 which is Intel's ID

14:00

also the codec chip (from whomever it may be, Realtek, VIA, Analog Devices..) connects to the HD Audio bus which is hosted by the chipset (edited)

me when compiling the entirety of gcc just for neofetch

ah yes

15:38

compiling a compiler

and its using gcc to compile gcc

lmfao

different versions but still

15:39

using a compiler to compile said compiler

gold

15:40

that's the G4 no?

yes

run linux on there valvenewsMega

no

shame

and doing all of this just for neofetch

Ximonite

he has via hd audio tho

yeah

16:01

also

16:01

im finally on vista

Scamdisk

using a compiler to compile said compiler

now thats just in the department of redundancy department territory

win5270

interesting how it works fine on my machine that has the same exact card with vista

I'm running a weird haswell system with vista

18:09

sometimes the Windows Installer service does NOT have a fun time with that (edited)

win5270

interesting how it works fine on my machine that has the same exact card with vista

giving windows 10 vibes when someone with the same hardware says windows 10 works fine

18:13

old man said a swear word

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831006810952433685/834671794287542272/S3E1A_The_Algaes_Always_Greener.mp4

won't load

Scamdisk

me when compiling the entirety of gcc just for neofetch

neofetch is a shell script bro

21:21

just run it in bash

21:21

it runs on haiku even

fr tho? like fr bro? fr fr fr tho? fr??? fr man???? fr bo?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881613484222193695/930550922793320539/unknown.png start menu

You can make it look modern if you change the start button

@Ximonite rate the theme above

pretty good

gm

Greetings.

the system volume information folder on my t520 is 18GB

17:28

is that a problem?

17:28

I don't think it's supposed to be that big

windows search indexing?

why does the discord windows app lag so hard sometimes

blame the fact its a glorified web browser

That started happening lately, a while ago it was just fine..

Strangely it started to be smoother for me after the class overhaul update

Scamdisk

blame the fact its a glorified web browser

and that's why I run discord in a web browser

21:20

it's been faster, less laggier and easier on RAM

21:20

and it also makes the browser instantly launch, since it's already loaded

yup ^

Deleted User

im finally on vista

taskbar looks glitched

Calasay

taskbar looks glitched

taskbar and window title goes black on some machines when you maximize a window

22:42

its a vista thing(tm)

on some machines?

22:50

no it's on all machines

22:50

the taskbar and window title go black on vista when you maximize

oh #ideas got archived

Vruh 2

the taskbar and window title go black on vista when you maximize

really? i had a machine where it would stay transparent

aren't you confusing it with vista7

ImSwordQueen

aren't you confusing it with vista7

no i never used vista7

23:54

i had vista w/ exkernel on my thinkpad and it was transparent when maximized

23:55

im pretty sure

@win32 did you ever finish the os spoofer kernel for win7?

he's too busy working on Windows Vista

03:21

if i had to guess

He's making a spoofer for 7?

docR

He's making a spoofer for 7?

few months back he told me he would put the vista one onto 7's kernel, supposedly it wouldnt be too hard to do

04:20

but i havent heard anything about it

There are some issues with some x86 applications on Vista, such as Windows installer. They need to be looked at before I can put the spoofer in 7.

win32

There are some issues with some x86 applications on Vista, such as Windows installer. They need to be looked at before I can put the spoofer in 7.

kk

win32

There are some issues with some x86 applications on Vista, such as Windows installer. They need to be looked at before I can put the spoofer in 7.

So it's actually coming to 7? Fancy

Calasay

taskbar looks glitched

2nd monitor

gm!

good afternoon

11:33

look: libraries!

11:34

hmm yes, clover

yep

yay libraries

#RadMorning

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Wtf are those tabs??

Clover tabs

12:24

why does idm keep showing this everytime when i have the idm reset trial thing on

idk

12:25

it's just confused

still works tho

yeah, same for me

12:25

I just X it off

12:25

is this the right clover

Yeah

12:27

huh

disable the bookmarks bar if you dont wanna use it

no i meant the navigation bar

12:28

its black

idk how I can help

instead of being transparent

havent used 7 in a long while

this is 8.1

12:29

themed

same thing

12:29

I have 8.1 but without glass8

I just remembered - you could try out QTTabBar as well

12:48

I personally find it a little annoying - if you want to open a new tab, you have to pick a location every single time

12:49

+ I like Clover's style

12:49

it looks like old Chrome

the Door guy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

That looks handy..

#RadMorning

I personally find it a little annoying - if you want to open a new tab, you have to pick a location every single time

Isn’t the middle mouse click shortcut to open new tabs there to fix that

14:57

Unless you have a trackpad or something

14:57

It should be redefinable

1

clover ass

1

Marda33

It should be redefinable

I was looking for an option that would just open 'This PC' if I pressed the plus button to open a new tab

ah

LMAO

16:49

@Ximonite

@Deleted User what laptop is that?

16:50

also what os?

win7, ideapad 100

16:50

idk i resumed pc from sleep

haswell?

baytrailM celeron

so after haswell right?

i think that's a haswell derivative

laughs at @docR

i got that screen on 8.1 too

16:51

and not on haswell

win32

laughs at @docR

and @Ximonite, because he considered Vista7 too

ximonite traitor

I guess the liquor won.

how'd u know it's vista7'd lol

both in brazil

i've been maining vista7 for months though on my thinkpad that has a 4700mq and never seen that

16:52

vista7 v1, then v2 a month ago

i mean if it does on 7 so it does on vista7 too (edited)

Dixel has stated that the lower end Haswell+ CPUs that lack AVX and everything (Pentiums/Celerons) do not have the same issues with Vista that higher end CPUs do.

2 problems

16:53

1. dixel

16:53

2. ivy has avx

yup this shit lacks avx

16:53

but yeah

16:53

ivy bridge has avx

16:53

iirc

so it's not an avx problem

it does

but if drift only happens on haswell even without avx though

16:54

Yep, I don't think it is AVX but something else. I know what AVX issues are like (0xc000001d ntstatus error if you try executing an avx instruction)

16:54

Haswell did introduce AVX2, but I don't see how that would change anything.

also if it doesn't avx1 then it doesn't have avx2 either

I'm almost 100% sure its the clock circuit

I have found at least 13 possible paths that lead to the applications failing to initialize.

the haswell+ clock circuit is generally less consistent when it comes to sticking with a certain frequency, but it is more power efficient and able to reach higher clock speeds. the main reason behind the change was to increase the clock speeds of their cpus. also some cpus being better than others with drift is most likely related to the die being near the middle of the wafer, since those dies are generally higher quality.

win32

laughs at @docR

pfffft

here's a simple way to show the improvements the new clock circuit made:

4790k was a killer cpu, honestly. too bad my board was too shit to let me enjoy using it

Hiya!

hi

Ninja style

lan? please?

20:07

trying to ping my laptop

20:07

they're literally both wired directly to my modem

check firewall

my laptop can ping 192.168.0.2

that usually blocks pings

i can't ping 192.168.0.10

20:07

the detail is my laptop is running windows xp

xp's firewall blocks pings

20:08

yeah

it must block absolutely everything

idk, disable it

because there i can't do ftp

20:08

i can't do file sharing normally

20:08

i can't do remote desktop

20:08

there now i can ping it

20:09

and now i can see it

congratulations

and now i can ftp

xp firewall = extreme potato

you could probably open up the necessary ports (also possible through the "apps" list in firewall settings iirc), but considering vruh needed a lot of things disabling it is probably the best option

20:30

not like it's powerful enough to block new malware

what malware would run on xp still

ancient shit, probably like sasser or something

20:33

but that doesn't spread thru the net anymore

20:34

we've reached a state where old computers are really safe on the internet because simply no malware supports them

of course, i mean as in unfiltered network, not apps

20:34

you can always catch something like oofer did

probably if you have a firewall on your connection the you are mostly find

all modern routers have built in firewalls too, which are sufficient in blocking net attacks most of the time

why is my firefox download window like this

ask firefox

gn

11:26

i dont think its windows 7's fault

reminder that common sense is the best antivirus

haha

11:45

Holy shit

the Door guy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

It's definitely not due to all the Fortnite hacks and cracks I downloaded from totallylegitsite.biz

RaduTek

It's definitely not due to all the Fortnite hacks and cracks I downloaded from totallylegitsite.biz

its always .biz lmfao

RaduTek

It's definitely not due to all the Fortnite hacks and cracks I downloaded from totallylegitsite.biz

i mean windows defender couldve prevented that

12:20

they probably didnt have an antivirus and couldnt be bothered to update win7 defender

exactly, user's fault

12:27

but it's easier to blame the OS than to recognise your mistakes

That's true

Also I installed the OG Discord, since I feel like Bluecord is outdated

People who think 7 is considerably riskier to use than 10 don't know how to use a computer

14:12

Evident by getting hit with malware trying to crack their games lol

as many say, more and more people just don't know how to pirate anymore

and streaming and subscription models are slowly taking over

14:25

that trash means you will not be able to play a game or watch a movie that is the cause of some legal trouble or some shit

14:25

or more simply, shit becoming inaccessible

as evidenced by the retarded widevine protection used by netflix and amazon and shit

14:30

you need to install an extension that tricks it into thinking you're running chromeos

14:30

only then it will let you go above 720p

14:31

lets also not forget to mention the servers they use for various isps sometimes dont have 5.1 audio

14:31

what the fuck am i even paying for at this point

hiyaaaa!

Ninja style

Ya!

14:35

what's up?

14:35

the sky duh

hello :P

oofer_dww

what the fuck am i even paying for at this point

you're paying for the privilege of getting fucked over

Having DVDs and Blu-Ray discs was also a privilege

RaduTek

you're paying for the privilege of getting fucked over

im paying just to web-dl shit troll

RaduTek

as many say, more and more people just don't know how to pirate anymore

I smell BS

Yes remember to crack Debian's activation!

Try to activate a free OS!

How to pin files to the top of a folder when sorting by date

16:40

just modify the attributes to set it to be in the future

XD

16:41

'Sometime in the future'

RaduTek

ah yeah i really want to activate my free software

Can someone install and extract the folder out for me, thanks https://wallmanager-x64.en.uptodown.com/windows

WallManager x64 (Windows)

Download the latest version of WallManager x64 for Windows. Automatically change your wallpaper. WallManager is a program that lets you easily change your wallpaper....

@Betajyst4094

wallmanager-x64-2-7-1.7z

54.2 MB

Appreciate it bro

18:58

I really have to reinstall

18:58

Net 4.8 is fucking killing me

preparing stuff for the trip

21:05

not all episodes

21:06

just the ones i didnt watch (still cant download season 5+)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/s3nilb/you_can_get_the_explorer_ribbons_back_by_heading/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

r/Windows11 - You can get the explorer ribbons back by heading into...

78 votes and 14 comments so far on Reddit

21:42

Ah yes: every time you want the Windows 10 ribbon UI you'd have to go to the "Windows Tools" folder and then click on a folder in the sidebar

21:42

totally practical 100% very useful tip

21:42

OP: "i prefer not to use third party tools just to view the ribbon back in w11"

21:43

acts as if WinAero tweaker is bloatware that runs 24/7 and mines crypto :)))

21:43

r/Windows.... type subs make you lose braincells

21:43

r/Windows11 sub is full of dumb idiots

21:44

r/WindowsXP is full of absolutely stupid kids that are newer than XP, Vista and 7 :)))

Deleted User

preparing stuff for the trip

i made a gamer move for a train trip

23:50

copied my jellyfin library to laptop

23:50

charged it and phone+headphones to 100

23:51

connected laptop to hotspot and suddenly i have a lot of shit to watch

RaduTek

r/Windows.... type subs make you lose braincells

You'll lose so many brain cells you'll end up browsing r/braincels!

Deleted User

LMAO

@docR

how the fuck does he think doing this is practical in any way

hiya

Ninja style

I'm trying to use my mouse with my left hand right now

10:31

I changed the left click position

I gave up

Not sure if anyone cares but I archived the MS Composer collection by DocRetro (same one who made the Windows Collections)

11:25

https://archive.org/details/microsoft-composer-collection

Microsoft Composer Collection : DocRetro : Free Download, Borrow, a...

Microsoft Composer Collection, made by Microsoft, compiled by DocRetro

Bring some life into this channel!

RaduTek

how the fuck does he think doing this is practical in any way

Stop browsing r/windows before you snap and turn into one of them

so he should stop browsing before he... becomes one of them?

15:36

I'm confused

15:37

So one day he'll just decide 'oh ye I wanna be dumb'

Before he turns into an imbecile like most people on that sub lol

15:37

Yes

15:37

You lose brain cells with every visit

15:37

It's like drinking, but worse

That's true...

15:37

I think I've become a little dumb

I'm neutral about XP/Vista/7 and 10/11

15:38

both generations of Windows have their advantages

15:39

everybody's quiet... I feel awkward

I don't actually hate any version of Windows, apart from consumer skus of 10

Oh yeah, Win10 Home sucks

What I mean by losing brain cells is people like that poster thinking using Winaero or similar to modify a registry setting is bloat, therefore go into folder properties every time. Or those folks on technet who just tell you to run system restore and sfc when your printer catches on fire

I get it now

15:44

well, Winaero Tweaker's a tool, not bloat

well frankly its not like they delegated the best 10 version to Servers only

And I don't hate XP either, I just think 2003 is XP on steroids lol

and client ltsc consumers getting the worst release

15:45

more like the worst release's third service pack

LTSB releases were alright (2015, 2016)

Scamdisk

and client ltsc consumers getting the worst release

That's a shame

15:45

Server 2022 is supposedly quite good

15:46

I've had decent success with 10 ltsc 1809. It may have honestly run lighter than 7, with no apparent caveats if you don't care for the Store

15:46

UI is... Well have a beer or two and it'll look better after feelscringeman

isn't 1809 one of the worse Win10 releases?

1904x is honestly the slowest 10 has been on anything

15:47

1809 is bad sure, but it doesn't compare to the bad 1904x is (edited)

#RadMorning

isn't 1809 one of the worse Win10 releases?

Consumer was. I can vouch for that. LTSC.... Surprisingly no, it was solid

Alrighty

Scamdisk

1809 is bad sure, but it doesn't compare to the bad 1904x is (edited)

I used LTSC 2021 for a little while

15:47

It wasn't bad

well on HW it isnt

15:48

on vms its doom

I love that emoji lol

and on weaker hardware it's also doom

(edited)

15:48

Let's just install Server 2012

15:48

9200

Testing 123. Is Win32 listening?

15:49

...

15:49

......

15:49

No?

15:49

Okay, install Vista7 or Vista too (edited)

Was the Start screen really necessary for Server 2012?

Classic Shell me bucko

well they did have to use the same code as client so

docR

Classic Shell me bucko

of course

Hey I use it even on 7

ex7forw8: hello (edited)

I forgot about that

Also I say this with a pinch of surprise in my voice

15:51

My wireless Canon laser printer actually... Well prints wirelessly from my desktop, laptop, and phone lol

15:51

With cheap inkjwrs just printing over usb was a miracle!

wow, a printer that actually does its job... (edited)

15:52

wirelessly!

Those lovely $70 inkjets with $50 ink cartridges that print maybe 20 sheets

15:52

And take 4 1/2 hours to dry

15:52

Or smear text

15:53

I gave up on printers for years and just paid a quarter to print everything at the libraries

docR

Okay, install Vista7 or Vista too (edited)

@win32

You.......

15:55

Why must you insist on securing my untimely death

15:55

15:56

What have they done?

15:56

This is starting to sound like an excuse

15:57

the normal Windows 11 build is also buggy

15:57

the 'stable' one

It is?

#RadMorning

Click to see attachment 🖼️

What's wrong with it? That color scheme aside lol

docR

What's wrong with it? That color scheme aside lol

Audio enhancements: Physical address (MAC):, Dolby Atmos, SSID:...

I mean tbh Windows 11 feels like a rushed version or something

and the Wi-Fi flyout is broken

Like take your time

Ohhh. I was looking at the network selection in the tray

15:59

localization gone wrong

Lolol I see now

15:59

Omfg

16:00

They're hopeless

16:00

I guess if you must use modern Windows, use Server 2022

16:00

Another case of localization gone wrong

16:01

My activation status is as light as an orchid

Scamdisk

on vms its doom

it wasn't that bad on vms

16:01

pro was worse

DeRosenberg

I mean tbh Windows 11 feels like a rushed version or something

windows 10 with a scuffed as fuck UI

17:13

the only thing better is gaming performance

17:14

they should just bring the gaming performance improvements to windows to 10

@Scamdisk i

19:29

am confident

19:29

cast.lib and that other error are useless

19:30

because they're the only errors i got in a clean build changing the branch

damn

i'm gonna strap in the missing binaries and see if i can do a postbuild

19:31

if i can and it produces a working os imma shit in cast.lib

i have a little less binaries than on my w7 machine

19:41

which means

19:41

it probably will work

19:42

the difference is so negligible i doubt it's gonna interfer with postbuild that much

@Scamdisk i come back with news

20:07

both errors can be safely ignored

20:08

only the csapithing.dll one you need to mind

20:08

just grab the dll and stick it on binaries.x86fre and done lol

20:58

whats with my explorer

I've got no idea

20:59

restart it using taskmgr

ive just reset icon cache

20:59

and taht happened

21:06

wtf?

21:08

THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO MY EXPLORER

DeRosenberg

I mean tbh Windows 11 feels like a rushed version or something

because windows 11 was in development for a month until one of the employees leaked the build

the Door guy

and taht happened

wut the fuck

the Door guy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

unplug any usb device

@ImSwordQueen did you had this happening?

i had

21:11

and the fix is by unplugging your usb or your phone from ur pc

do what

did you have explorer glitching out on 8.1?

Deformisani SAS

and the fix is by unplugging your usb or your phone from ur pc

i dont have any usb plugged in

the Door guy

did you have explorer glitching out on 8.1?

already said the answer to the fix

yes when deleting big files

21:12

and a lot of files

21:12

at random? no

then reboot

21:13

im on shitdows 11

nice you broke your shell

i didnt do anything

21:14

to the shell

by modfying the os with themes? yeah right

21:14

any theme patcher like ultraux replaces the shell dll stuff

21:14

and now you broke it

i used secureuxtheme

21:14

though

it broke your shell

21:15

reboot into the windows recovery menu (force shutdown your pc 3 times when the windows logo pops up

21:15

and then go more and then go to your latest system restore

tray icon just appeared

i mean you can ask dave plummer (he worked at microsoft for a decade in the msdos and win 95 days)

the Door guy

tray icon just appeared

ok

21:16

never modify your windows install with themes and stuff.

Deformisani SAS

because windows 11 was in development for a month until one of the employees leaked the build

bruh

yeah like bruh

Deformisani SAS

never modify your windows install with themes and stuff.

what are you talking about lol

21:18

secure ux theme doesnt patch system files

it does

21:19

patches the shell stuff

21:19

i used it and it broke my win 8.1 install

no, it just patches them live in memory

Deformisani SAS

i used it and it broke my win 8.1 install

works on my machine (tm)

I would say you should have a Windows USB as a backup but I'm mentioning the obvious

main explorer stuff and programs such

21:21

work

21:21

but desktop and taskbar slowly load

21:26

atleast i have something

1

21:29

@ImSwordQueen what do i do if desktop doesnt load?

open taskmgr maybe?

and

kill explorer and reopen it?

21:34

it should be obvious?

ive done that a billion times

21:35

tho

21:35

the desktop doesnt load

21:35

the taskbar barely loads

even if you restart the os?

i didnt restart

i would restart tbh

im worried

the shell doesn't magically die at random

Restarting fixed ir

ffs i got banned

Bruh

Deformisani SAS

never modify your windows install with themes and stuff.

lmfao what????

22:14

dave plummer literally has no word in this

22:15

i doubt he even came close to touch uxtheme

22:15

ultrauxtheme only patched theme dlls (uxtheme.dll, etc)

22:15

it doesnt patch shell32.dll

anyways

Vruh 2

lmfao what????

he ported the shell over to the NT platform

i doubt it

23:29

maybe worked in newshell

23:33

it doesn't mean you shouldn't modify windows with themes and shit

23:33

it doesn't fucking break it unless you're a moron and you don't know what you're doing

23:34

or you use a shitty theme file or something

23:34

ultrauxthemepatcher has never failed me

ultrauxthemepatcher has never failed me on non-beta windows

it hasn't failed me except on pre-sp2 srv03

03:50

and on some betas yeah

betas is where uxstyle comes in

06:38

even tho that by itself isnt great

good morning!

buna dimineata

dobro jutro i tebi

#RadMorning

good morning!

Доброе утро!

neata soare!

noapte bună, lună (edited)

Iуьйре дика хуьлда шун

12:42

Though it is not morning anymore

#RadMorning

good morning!

Good afternoon!

giving you da options

Vruh 2

giving you da options

damn that's sick

cleartype is now enabled by default

port oobe next

Would be cool if you guys set up an IRC bridge on this server, for those who want to chat from any os

no admins present on the server.

20:06

is this the death of wls?

Wls ded 2022

F in the chat

It has been pretty quiet here

20:20

I suppose we out of stuff to discuss and most of it happens outside

I think it's also safe to say that people have been busy recently

Could be...at the same time people from here actively talk on other servers

oh yeah, that's plausible

ImSwordQueen

no admins present on the server.

me and anx are both admins, yall just dont realize it

20:45

also ximonite and win32 have been popping in and out all day and they’re both admins

Does the question even need to be asked

21:01

Like is the photo not clear enough

ImSwordQueen

no admins present on the server.

You realize mods have nearly the same perms and can still mute and ban?

21:09

And my role libraries

is somewhere between mod and admin

21:09

win5270

also ximonite and win32 have been popping in and out all day and they’re both admins

Yes, I wasn't home for the past two days.

RaduTek

Does the question even need to be asked

Yes, I don't know the answer

docR

For the last time, that's a fucking bank.

I have a question

Or court.

Or internet archive

That is a court

I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 100. What is it?

that's not a bank

21:10

67

13

84

#RadMorning

67

-warn @#RadMorning close, it's really 62

Warning logged for MadEvening#5461. I couldn't DM them.

I'm surprised

-warn @Hank fuck off

I can't find user @Hank.

-warn @Ol' lodocus fuck off

Warning logged for Dyno#3861. I couldn't DM them.

docR

You realize mods have nearly the same perms and can still mute and ban?

Not ban

21:18

Mod can't (edited)

21:19

?ban @Betacyst

21:19

-ban @Betacyst

Betacyst#2447 was banned

Oh

21:19

Alright

https://books.google.rs/books?id=aLjQAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT534&lpg=PT534&dq=last+windows+8.1+insider+build&source=bl&ots=TneH5POryM&sig=ACfU3U1EJEcJzRKkvdmU9GrMSLcETvCq8w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFvc6Zp7f1AhVJSvEDHauwCekQ6AF6BAghEAM#v=onepage&q=last%20windows%208.1%20insider%20build&f=false

Windows 8.1 Bible

22:22

a full-blown manual for Windows 8.x

https://twitter.com/reactos/status/1482366966316765188

ReactOS (@reactos)

Nowaydays, @haikuOS guys are porting Wine to Haiku. #ReactOS components are working on Haiku, too! Here are some screenshots.

Likes

154

23:52

wine on haiku

23:52

dies *

23:53

https://twitter.com/haikunauts/status/1477763519621836800?cxt=HHwWgMC5ke6FiYIpAAAA

Haikunauts (@haikunauts)

@Windows software running on @haikuOS ?? Looks like it's going to be possible in a short time through #wine and #xlibe: https://t.co/ObBlDBqodC Great work by X512 and Waddlesplash. 2022 is looking brilliant for #Haiku Kudos!!!

23:53

can't wait for this to evolve

Vruh 2

https://twitter.com/haikunauts/status/1477763519621836800?cxt=HHwWgMC5ke6FiYIpAAAA

wow

01:41

thats awesome

01:41

i guess xlibe is to run linux software or something?

01:42

oh its for xorg software

https://github.com/jas502n/IDA_Pro_7.2/issues/14

➡️ IDA 7.6 and older versions download links ⬅️ · Issue #14 · jas50...

All leaks are NOT mine. Hurry, get them before it got deleted Password and instruction are included If you want to keep up-to-date, use Tor Browser and visit this onion webpage http://fckilfkscwuso...

02:45

reminder this still exists

looking at pseudocode generated by ida without debug symbols made me cry

04:37

i'm going to the corner

Vruh 2

https://twitter.com/reactos/status/1482366966316765188

what in the actual

let me guess that @docR loves school

Deformisani SAS

let me guess that @docR loves school

nope he loves libraries

xd

yea

why noy both?

well today for me school starts and im in school rn

no, he loves libraries

and

People in my area were supposed to go back to school today, but they were all closed because of heavy snow.

whats the deal with the libraries lol

4

3

heavy snow? it was snowing in serbia and they closed school because of covid.

ryan loves libraries

my god

yeap

barely snows round here so ofc im at school rn

ok

06:30

been thinking bout hackintoshing 10.7 on my hp laptop but idk how to start

06:30

i only have a usb drive and i definitely dont want to fuck with dvds

well lion does boot from usb ig

then uh

06:31

i dont think distros would work since niresh panicked at some kext

06:31

i kinda want to do it the vanilla way

do it .

but how

how old is this laptop

i need an experienced inidividual

Vruh 2

how old is this laptop

hp 550

06:32

2008

so a c2d

c2d t5470 merom 1.6 ghz

06:32

4gb ddr2

06:32

gma x3100

you're shit outta luck in regards to the opencore guide

10.8 x64 wont work cause no 64bit x3100 drivers

because it only covers till nehalem for laptops

i need 32 bit 10.7

if theres no proper guide for such a machine, just use, sorry but i have to say it, tonymac's tools

Scamdisk

if theres no proper guide for such a machine, just use, sorry but i have to say it, tonymac's tools

i dont have a legit mac to use multibeast (edited)

use a vm

right

it will work just as well for making a usb

06:33

for the unibeast part

severely owned

if someone can guide me through it would be highly appreciated

multibeast is used after install

arrandale is 1st gen core right ?

Vruh 2

you're shit outta luck in regards to the opencore guide

wasnt there also clover

isnt that nethalem or whatever its called

well it is nehalem

06:34

then what the fuck is arrandale

shitty tools do use clover

you could try setting it up as a penryn desktop

see the worst part is i have no idea what im doing

with opencore

doubt thats gonna work

06:35

considering how nonstandard laptop acpi can be

some dude in reddit said to do it

06:36

and he got it working with some pentium m

what. the. fuck.

however this is where i come in to say

06:36

i've done it before with my laptop

06:36

and

06:36

it did not work at all

my pentium m machine can only boot properly with 10.4.1

because my laptop is actually impossible to hackintosh

06:37

literally

so do i just pull a unibeast

only niresh 10.9 works

06:37

ONLY that

i need like a legit lion installer

havent had success with anything else

ok so i guess i will make a mavericks vm and get unibeast using that

06:38

its gonna be painfully slow though

06:38

cause 4th gen i3 in virtualization is not all that good

06:38

especially in vbox

meanwhile me who virtualized using a sandy bridge celeron for years and was doing just fine

i mean mac os specifically

that was fine too

anyways what do i do

07:06

opencore guide says merom is technically supported

07:08

07:11

4312 is unsupported wow im lucky

07:17

actually i think a modified 4311 kext might work

oh ok they dont have the needed files for merom either

07:45

i guess i'll just go fuck myself then

Which files to be exact?

MassClaw

Which files to be exact?

ssdt's and plists

07:58

they only have those for penrynn and up

07:59

which is essentially mobile core i series

penryn is core 2 duo

08:05

but they only have desktop for that

o

guess what

08:32

i have a penryn

08:32

laptop

Good morning

Morning.

if only this was luna

10:31

non silly looking luna troll

mallard but it isnt a joke trol

10:33

literally gives out more mallard vibes than it does luna vibes

it IS mallard

11:37

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/932599235545825310/Windows_Server_2003_Standard_Edition_3-2022-01-17-08-35-51.png anyways

Vruh 2

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/932599235545825310/Windows_Server_2003_Standard_Edition_3-2022-01-17-08-35-51.png anyways

that logonui is sexy as hell

Hiya

Vruh 2

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/932599235545825310/Windows_Server_2003_Standard_Edition_3-2022-01-17-08-35-51.png anyways

Add the clock like in longhorn trol

i wanted to do it

13:51

but i cannot understand ida output

13:51

literally

#RadMorning

Hiya

Greetings.

you know what, fuck it

So zammis' advice worked

well i did patch ci and winload

16:36

but for the bootmgr part

16:36

i let patchguard do it's thing

Exactly

didn't expect the [tool i won't disclose] to work with 10537's ci and winload tho

Similar offsets

16:39

CI doesn't get changed too often (edited)

yeah but winload (edited)

Nor does winload

16:40

In fact a lot of stuff is repeatedly reused almost unchanged since ga of windows 10 (edited)

hmm guess it's gonna work for some other much later builds too

16:41

but nah won't make a debombed iso of this build

16:41

this is just testing grounds

Never got around fixing up 9860/9879 in the end... because fuck net 4.8 on vista (edited)

and also because i can't debomb all of those skus without cooking them

And 10537 has a shitton of them I recall?..

like all of the client (not clientN, just client) skus at the time

Hoho...they sure forgot to clean that up

16:46

yup, literally every client sku at that time

Oh my aromatics that's indeed a handful..

the other compile of this build, the test signed one

16:47

also has them

16:47

but fucked manifests

16:48

that won't let me go from Enterprise to Professional

All the good stuff is from internal you know

16:49

Is the x64 enterprise one test signed?

the th2_sigma_grfx_dev one? yes

16:50

the upgrade target definition for starter above literally matches what's in the actual build

16:50

here's the thing

16:51

they also partially forgot to clean the server variant as well

Oh my bad, it's the sigma grfx build with broken manifests

16:51

Many of those are virtual I figure?

or idk i should check the editionmatrix of the server variant to see

Betajyst4094

Many of those are virtual I figure?

there were no virtual skus at that time

Fair

virtual skus were introduced in 1803

16:52

this is some 1511 build

16:53

but i do feel like there were more for server than well

16:54

i feel like there's more than this list shows

Thanks for clarifying

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Your screenshot?

yes

16:55

16:55

ok serverweb seems to match too

16:56

except for ServerARM64

16:57

ServerARM64 is the only thing that was cleaned up in the server variant

16:57

while client had nothing cleaned out

16:57

because both CoreARM and EmbeddedIndustryA are there

17:00

here's another oddity about all of this

17:00

all these skus are only in the x64 media

17:01

the x86 media is what you expect

17:01

aka core, professional, enterprise and education

good night

installing funny engine 5

#RadMorning

good night

Night.

good morning

Git

git to you too

somewhere between silver 1 and global elite i think

13:03

this resolution every text is just a suggestion

640x480 baby

ah such a privilege being able to play at 1280x1024 at mostly above 150 fps

13:06

this game is so absurdly unoptimized

yeah

13:24

valorant is the most optimised game

13:25

old version of discord

13:25

but its just the old program. it loads the latest stuff unfortunately :(

fortunately

13:25

legit old discord wasn't as good

its better

but i'm not saying this is good either

13:25

fuck no it wasn't better

it is

the old layout used to be clunky and blocky (edited)

it was always rounded.

when i joined in 2016 it wasn't entirely rounded

i joined in 2017

looked like this when i joined

How to add friends on discord (short video) (2017) - YouTube

13:27

not that different

13:27

but honestly

13:27

doesn't look better than this

its better in my opinnion

13:27

the old titlebar is clunky asf

️

13:28

lol

also that's one hell of a fucking miss

13:28

0 arc (edited)

13:28

hard brick

old electron versions/builds are much faster for some reason

️

13:29

there

how tf do you have 2 same fists (xd)

Deformisani SAS

the old titlebar is clunky asf

until discord locked and you couldn't close it with the buttons

13:48

(still you can't but shhh)

Deformisani SAS

how tf do you have 2 same fists (xd)

Damn genetic mutations

Vruh 2

️

bruh

18:27

vruh

18:27

Vruh 2

️

betteh

18:28

briish

18:29

compuah

@win32 do you know of any intel hd 4000 drivers for vista?

00:28

i looked but couldnt find any

I think you have to use an XP driver for that IGP.

00:29

They did make one for x64 too.

hmm ok

Michael

@win32 do you know of any intel hd 4000 drivers for vista?

@Ximonite

00:38

We have an early 7 driver that works

00:38

I'm away at the moment, maybe Ximonite can share

I have them on my t520

I may have mixed it up with the 4400/4600.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873303222226403408/882967196928733224/Intel_PHDGD_Vista.7z

00:43

^^ @Michael

Thanks, Xim

Ximonite

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873303222226403408/882967196928733224/Intel_PHDGD_Vista.7z

ty :) (edited)

I use it myself on my e6530 with a 3740qm

00:49

Just don't try and use quicksync, it's bugged

00:49

GPU acceleration in mpc is meh too

win5270 pinned a message to this channel. 19/01/2022 01:28

gm

Yeah Garry's mod

Ximonite pinned a message to this channel. 19/01/2022 11:05

beep beep beep

finally a working build without srckit

13:36

tho it did like to bsod a lot

13:37

during boot screen

13:37

so working but not very stable

microsoft edge bar

18:05

why? its pointless

but you've already got a search in the taskbar

which doesnt work

18:10

also im on win 11

at least you have the clock

18:53

i saw a desktop where the clock wasnt here with the windows 10 taskbar

#RadMorning

but you've already got a search in the taskbar

A search that doesn't reliably work, that is. (edited)

that's true

explorerpatcher gives you more settings

19:13

weird that search doesn't work. it should

21:21

Michael

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i think they did something in our school once when I was in elementary

21:39

encouraging people to walk or cycle to school

waiting for my teacher takes 45 min jesus

i am currently writing the absolute worst code i've ever written

#include <iostream>

// Program that calculates the height of the ball relative to the ground while falling from a tower.
// I don't exactly know how to implement this.

int getValue()
{
    
    // storage variable
    int height;

    // the prompt
    std::cout << "Enter the height of the tower in meters: ";
    std::cin >> height; // sends user input to height variable


    return height; // returns value from height variable to whatever calls upon it

}

int printResults(double height, int time)
{
    if (height >= 0)
    {
        std::cout << "At " << time << " seconds, the ball is at: " << height << " meters\n";
    }
    else
    {
        std::cout << "At " << time << " seconds, the ball is on the ground.\n";
    }
}

double calcHeight(int time, int height)
{
    const double gravity { 9.8 }; // This is probably wrong. It's 9.8 m/s², but i'm not sure what to do with that.

    double distFallen {height - gravity * (time * time)/2 }; // The formula for the distance fallen is gravity . time²/2. This should be correct, i suppose.
    // Example: the height of the tower is 100 and the time elapsed is 4 seconds: 100 - 9.8 * 16/2 = 21,6

    printResults(distFallen, time);
}

int main()
{
    
    // this is just shameful
    
    int height { getValue() };

    calcHeight(0, height);
    calcHeight(1, height);
    calcHeight(2, height);
    calcHeight(3, height);
    calcHeight(4, height);
    calcHeight(5, height);
}

i had to think of ways of implementing this without any switch, for or while statement because the cpp tutorial didn't give that yet

08:27

so may you forgive me

08:27

for this absolute abomination

Already learned things from there?

some stuff yeah

08:28

08:29

it works

08:29

and it's close to the implementation they gave (i tried my best to not look at it)

08:30

it took me a bit to realize what to do with the formula

Vruh 2

i am currently writing the absolute worst code i've ever written

me in computer science class getting straight a's and writing horrible code

08:36

08:37

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dotexe1337/interactive_menu/master/interactive_menu_addon.py

Good morning!

Good morning

just saw this screenshot

10:51

something i noticed: "Microsoft Store for Windows XP"

10:51

????

looks unlegit

pov windows xp with longhorn theme and windows 10 kernel and uwp app support

10:54

Michael

just saw this screenshot

fun fact microsoft store for windows xp is actually real. but it was cut

since the searchbar on ms store doesnt work for me a person on answers.microsoft.com said to either check for updates or run wsreset.exe in the run box

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842487392548028416/933724259992358992/unknown.png who remembers these 2 fellas?

Tom and Jerry!

Mislim da ne

"Do you think anybody remembers us?" "I don't think so." (edited)

xd

21 lol

16:39

more than a good run

16:39

specially considering it was mostly useless

it was on gpu driver cds for some reason

16:41

for the 2070 i think

some asus gpus yeah

16:41

still very much useless

Vruh 2

some asus gpus yeah

a sus

16:46

how tf is this running aero?

If it's the 4th generation intergrated graphics, things have improved.

hd graphics don't have dedicated memory

16:51

they share with ram

So the problem of aero is usually a memory one, not a processing one? Sure's strange. (edited)

it's hd graphics -- it is capable of rendering aero

16:57

and no it's not only memory

Oh so it can be both.

if you have a fucking riva tnt with a theoretical 1gb of vram

16:57

it's still not gonna run

16:58

it has to support pixel shaders 3 and directx 9 (or 10 i forgot)]

16:58

and then of course have wddm drivers (edited)

Yes, true.

afaik all intel hd run aero...

HD 4600 will most certainly run Aero, it's about as powerful as a GT 710

17:58

Even HD 4000 displays Aero, I use an e6530 with only integrated graphics

HD 4400 also supports Aero

18:16

I have it on my i7-4600u

it was on gpu driver cds for some reason

@Deformisani SAS https://youtu.be/HkV5WjV5qR0 (edited)

Michael MJD

ASUS Ships Google Toolbar With RTX GPUs... For Some Reason

Why even put Chrome on driver CDs?

18:31

Its mass bundling with other products gave off the impression that it was a PUP.

Chrome isn't a thing that you buy, you get it for free

18:33

Plus Chrome always updates sooo what's the point?

@ docman123 https://youtu.be/HkV5WjV5qR0

@#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME yeah i watch michael mjd and when i saw google toolbar on the thumbnail i was like this has to be fake

Michael MJD

ASUS Ships Google Toolbar With RTX GPUs... For Some Reason

Never thought this was a thing in firefox

Deformisani SAS

@ docman123 https://youtu.be/HkV5WjV5qR0

@#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME yeah i watch michael mjd and when i saw google toolbar on the thumbnail i was like this has to be fake

a better question is why are driver discs even shipped with motherboards anymore

20:51

given 95% of newer pcs lack an optical drive

freedom would love this

switched to debian linux

09:01

no regrets

09:01

finally rid of crapdows 10

09:02

09:03

i put btrfs compression on my home partiton and tinkered with the settings so i get like double the space with almost no performance penalty

09:03

this is a big brain move

Ok sorry for asking this but I was currently thinking of studying in Montreal or Vancouver, which one is better for me? I would also work and live in either of these cities so I wanna ask before I do that.

Also yes I speak French if you want to ask

docR

HD 4600 will most certainly run Aero, it's about as powerful as a GT 710

uhhhhhh hd 2000 can run aero

10:12

gma 950 can run aero

10:12

sis mirrage 3 can run aero

10:15

betterdiscord on nostalgicord 2020 (pain in the ass to get it to work)

uhhhhhh hd 2000 can run aero

@Deleted User i have a hd2400 pro

What is nostalgicord

10:41

a discord client that removes all new stuff from discord

10:41

lighter and faster on lower end pcs like mine

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

thats ati

basically 2020 discord

not intel hd

oh

Deformisani SAS

a discord client that removes all new stuff from discord

official website for that?

there isnt

10:42

couldnt find anything about this

10:42

daniel7689 gave me the download link

10:43

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yH7gzXyDxvVYsiRdg51FvYQbcVcSDrO-/view?usp=sharing

nostalgicord2020-win32-0.9.44.exe

10:43

works flawlessly

Hello

but it aint workin on vista exkernel

10:43

hello

10:44

#RadMorning

Hello

hello

best version of discord that works for now.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yH7gzXyDxvVYsiRdg51FvYQbcVcSDrO-/view?usp=sharing

@Deformisani SAS finally

nostalgicord2020-win32-0.9.44.exe

?

10:49

are you using the quote thing?

Im using quotes so it automatically pings

im using bd quotes on nostalgicord xd

10:49

was discord slower even before january?

hell yeah

10:50

im using a 2 y old client lmfao

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Click to see attachment 🖼️

sus

10:56

im a

user

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925927111867396097/933939914423296000/get_real.mov

11:05

i never knew that this place was real

You mean you thought all the non-abstract wallpapers to be fake? That would be a stretch. Also it's the haystack rock if you want to visit it sometimes. (edited)

Deformisani SAS

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925927111867396097/933939914423296000/get_real.mov

what? i can also put a tv behind the monitor

If it's a big TV, that is

Yes, the example shown would be more than 50 inches.

that place is real

even the original Hero wallpaper was a real picture

Yeah

If you count props in a lighting studio to be a real place.

Deformisani SAS

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yH7gzXyDxvVYsiRdg51FvYQbcVcSDrO-/view?usp=sharing

An official website not the download

It's most likely just a fosscord modification. No official websites for it anywhere. (edited)

not a real place sure, but the photo is real

Yeah got the message.

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i forgot what the old profile thing used to look

13:44

holy shit

A rare positive evolution.

Deformisani SAS

sus

16:55

technically not wrong OkayuSmug

16:55

just not each other ofc

16:58

also november 1st

16:58

did I predict the future in a way?

ImSwordQueen

An official website not the download

there is no official site for it.

17:56

its probably dead

the Door guy

Im using quotes so it automatically pings

You can ping with mentions too

ImSwordQueen

An official website not the download

https://github.com/Nostalgicord I think this is the github

Nostalgicord

Discord Archival Project - Preserving the experience of (past) Discord - Nostalgicord

18:15

no actual website it seems though

https://www-pinzaru-ro.translate.goog/7779/windows-2000-pe-ryzen-9-dupa-20-de-ani/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp @Ximonite

pinzaru

Windows 2000 pe Ryzen 9, după 20 de ani | pinzaru.ro

Am folosit pentru prima dată Windows 2000 în 1999. Cu un AMD K6-2/350 și 96MB RAM la bord, mă încadram cu brio în specificațiile minime care indicau ca punct de pornire un Pentium 133Mhz și 64MB RAM. În același timp, Windows 98 cerea minim un procesor 486 DX2/66 și 16MB RAM. Chiar dacă aveai hardware-ul […]

arialgirl

https://www-pinzaru-ro.translate.goog/7779/windows-2000-pe-ryzen-9-dupa-20-de-ani/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp @Ximonite

why are you looking at a romanian website?

19:27

also pog

found him from win-raid

19:31

its possible that the biostar-motherboard he has is more backwards compatible with older oses

X470 with PCI hmm

also, he used via sata and usb add-in cards

19:36

obviously

what the fuck

19:49

what. the. fuck.

19:49

how come a voodoo 3 has full hd

@Deformisani SAS how do i install betterdiscord on this client

skip

how come a voodoo 3 has full hd

it can output 2048x1536@75hz

way ahead of its time

WinDVD

it can output 2048x1536@75hz

did the voodoo3 have directx

skip

did the voodoo3 have directx

up to DX8 with beta drivers and DX7 officially with latest drivers

21:10

http://falconfly.3dfx.pl/voodoo3.htm

there were monitors that could output these resolutions at the time

21:26

this isnt anything outside of spec

21:26

there was even a monitor from 1995 that could do 1920x1200 iirc

arialgirl

there was even a monitor from 1995 that could do 1920x1200 iirc

yeah viewsonic made some back then

21:45

intergraph made a 1920x1080 one

higher end trinitrons and viewsonics could def do high res

00:46

gpus were the limitation at that time

00:46

and of course readability

00:47

i'd imagine being hard to read on a 17 or 20 '' viewsonic at 1920x1440

Vruh 2

higher end trinitrons and viewsonics could def do high res

It's not about viewsonics and those, there are other equipment of course.

no actual website it seems though

Yeah just a modified repo.

arialgirl

its possible that the biostar-motherboard he has is more backwards compatible with older oses

you think so?

WinDVD

it can output 2048x1536@75hz

rename nostalgicord. exe to discord and the client will install

04:56

my phones battery has 5000 things

you pinged the wrong persons

oof

the Door guy

@Deformisani SAS how do i install betterdiscord on this client

rename nostalgicord.exe to discord.exe and put the discord location in bd to nostalgicord folder

06:26

What even is that?

07:08

where do you even obtain it?

inb4 some custom skin someone made

doesnt hold a candle to sab tho

Scamdisk

doesnt hold a candle to sab tho

fluent metro

docR

What even is that?

open shell with a custom skin start menu named fluent metro

Scamdisk

doesnt hold a candle to sab tho

what is sab

10:09

oh

10:09

startallback

10:09

i thought you used start11

wouldnt use start11 on 11

its horrible

10:44

starall back is not a software.

10:44

startisback is the result that google found for me and i used that program. its cool

11:00

no searchbar

11:01

i used start11 to hide windows 10s searchbar because i couldnt find the code in registry

Deformisani SAS

starall back is not a software.

Startallback.com is the official website

wut

11:23

google gave me results of startisback

11:25

Also piracy in the second result lol

docR

you think so?

likely

does anyone here have an older version of dtm-08?

i guess that's how it is then

Deformisani SAS

google gave me results of startisback

startallback is how it's called now

14:49

they renamed it cause now it modifies not just the start menu but also the taskbar and explorer windows

startisback is for 8.x and 10

15:14

startallback is for 11

15:14

they are 2 different products still

15:14

3*

15:15

honestly i'm surprised it did even install on 22000

decided to get a 775i65g and will build a second pc around it

arialgirl

decided to get a 775i65g and will build a second pc around it

nice

https://discord.com/nitro-5-year-anniversary-giveaway-official-rules

Nitro 5 Year Anniversary Giveaway Official Rules

Official rules for Discord Nitro 5 Year Anniversary Giveaway on Twitter and Instagram

00:04

gm

that sure is a helluva lot of rules for 1 month of an online subscription

Fuck off with this giveaway

08:03

It's not fair that countries that are mentioned only get it but not us

08:03

Not Egypt, but every country

is there even a third world country in that list?

Discord is a gamers platform. Particularly geared at white 14 year olds from western countries

08:28

enter western music here

ImSwordQueen

https://discord.com/nitro-5-year-anniversary-giveaway-official-rules

bull fucking shit

for some reason this extension named youtube redux is a bit buggy on edge.

10:30

so scrolling down on the home page takes a bit of time to load videos and thumbnails while on chrome no issues with that

10:33

who remembers this og loading animation for videos?

I also recently discovered this extension and man it's good

DeRosenberg

It's not fair that countries that are mentioned only get it but not us

Italy is not even on the list.

Betajyst4094

I also recently discovered this extension and man it's good

i discovered it like 2 days ago

10:58

its by the youtube dislike extension developer

10:59

ImSwordQueen

https://discord.com/nitro-5-year-anniversary-giveaway-official-rules

thought thats a nitro scam again

Nope

bruh why is windows using a 2009 driver for my gpu

cuz it's probably taken from the install dvd

11:34

it did that with my gma x3100

daniel7689 gave me a 2016 version of windows 7

11:37

lets see if it will crap up on minecraft or not because older drivers on minecraft = black textures and flickering black textures

Deformisani SAS

bruh why is windows using a 2009 driver for my gpu

thats the default driver

11:40

just install one

csgo ran fine and even counter strike source ran fine with this driver. but in counter strike source my cursor was invisible but its a outdated driver issue

11:43

this time it gave a error

can you try this: http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/driver/drvs/2011/12/20460901_d03b0dbc8f48e589205dad60da8e7cac30b63659.cab

11:45

i dont think minecraft will run with default wddm driver

im downloading the driver that amd is hosting

11:47

eh

11:49

that'll work too

installed the driver

so does it work

ye

I'm going to try YouTube Redix myself

16:21

I like how YouTube looks, I just hate the infinite scrolling and how oversized everything is

16:22

My favorite extension for YouTube is Enhancer For YouTube

16:22

Gives me volume control with scroll wheel, let's me pick a default loading resolution, etc

Wow. Redix is pretty good

I will be ignoring the windows 7 channel for the next while

Its fine down there You have uncle failed pharmacist monitor it

ok cool

20:43

its just so hard to keep up with and I have schoolwork I’m supposed to be doing

Oh

20:43

In that sense. Then do take your time

20:44

Discord sure eats it away

yep

this youtube redix is fancy

docR

this youtube redix is fancy

how do you make it like that?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-redux/

YouTube Redux – Get this Extension for

Firefox (en-US)

Download YouTube Redux for Firefox. Replicate old YouTube look and features within the modern layout!

01:05

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/enhancer-for-youtube/

Enhancer for YouTube™ – Get this Extension for

Firefox (en-US)

Download Enhancer for YouTube™ for Firefox. Take control of YouTube and boost your user experience!

01:06

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/419723-youtube-return-old-logo-embed-logo

YouTube - Return old logo + embed logo

Returns the nicer old youtube logo on the website and embedded videos.

01:10

01:16

lot of options in enhancer

01:17

i like to auto expand my vid descriptions and such

mhm

introducing the virtual boy pc

docR

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I downloaded YT Redux too, it's pretty good

22:05

now gn

goodnight

gn

(edited)

@Betajyst4094 just wanted to say. marvelous job on the 5252 theme!

Indeed

00:07

uh i dont think the taskbar is supposed to be in this part of setup

@WinDVD try 98se2me instead

seconded

03:34

i can help

im going to install that on the 775 pc im building

its because of my cpu

03:37

ryzen does not like 9X

03:37

even in vm

03:40

then its time to either use an emulator, or consider using another pc for win9x

arialgirl

im going to install that on the 775 pc im building

775 pc, windows 98

03:40

this is epic

Michael

775 pc, windows 98

fun fact: i was planning to settle on some pentium 4 socket 478 job, but a 775i65g was at a very reasonable price on ebay

03:42

given how rare and sought after they are i pulled the trigger

03:43

it essentially combines lga775 with the 865g chipset, which has agp and full win98 compatibilty

i also have a 775 pc that can run 98

04:16

an old dell dimension E510

04:17

rocking a pentium D 945

04:20

and these drivers should let me get solid video out https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2019/06/intel-945gm-display-driver-for-windows.html atleast from the igpu

Random tidbit, but I found out my dads old pentium 4 pc from long ago had a biostar motherboard. I never knew what brand it was, but I remember it had the most generic ass looking drivers cd.

04:59

Turns out these are biostar cds

05:00

The motherboard itself looked very generic too, no brand at all

05:00

And it failed in about 5 years

they didnt try very hard

Good morning everyone

inb4 just a mistake in basebrd.dll.mui

07:41

because im sure the sku is different

07:44

dism /online /get-currentedition should show something else

you can install the server 2008 sha2 patch

07:46

server home premium huh

yup, 100% a mistake in basebrd.dll.mui

its funny cause the default aero theme uses this wallpaper

now try getting every server 2008 r2 update installed including esus trol

(edited)

i mean its already doing that via windows update lmfao

07:51

its getting win server 2008 updates too

wait is it installing 2020-01 or

lemme check

iirc home server 2011 eol'd earlier

i cant check its already installing

Scamdisk

iirc home server 2011 eol'd earlier

yeah 2016

07:52

i do remember seeing an update published in 2017 in the update download list so

07:53

welp

07:53

maybe its cause i installed the SHA 256 update from server 2008

maybe thats why it's confused and it installs newer updates than intended

well it works out in the end lol

try installing esus after trol

will do

07:55

where is the link to that again

mfw you can literally download them from update catalog

these updates are gonna take about 2.5 million years to install

but you still need a patch to install them

huh i see Windows Home Server 2011 update rollup in the update list (edited)

08:04

weird

08:04

so it still knows its home server 2011

arialgirl

And it failed in about 5 years

our old pc's mobo is literally still going

09:08

from 2005

docR

@Betajyst4094 just wanted to say. marvelous job on the 5252 theme!

Thanks bro

09:48

V3 is due, very glad you guys liked it but some polishing is to take place (edited)

they definitely tried hard

funny that 2011 is less supported than 2008 r2

fun fact: like Windows 7 media, Server 2008 R2 media (no not the special 2011 stuff) have everything for every server sku

12:37

tho seemnly not staged in the serverweb image

probably they were going to kill serverweb soon so there was no reason to have the packages for serverweb

no, i mean everything that isn't ServerStandard, ServerEnterprise or ServerDatacenter in this list

13:34

and there's more but the files for those are missing

13:35

obivously it was done to not give access to those skus

huh weird

the same amount of skus is in 7700 server too

7700

i bet they were trying to remove starter/serverweb from a "sellable" sku

13:52

after the failure of 7 starter

13:52

for starter

13:53

and serverweb because idk

no, i don't mean that

13:55

i mean the other skus in the files not been staged

13:56

maybe MS didn't want people to know the truth

truth about what

ya know

13:58

serverweb been a base sku

13:59

and been able to get stuff like ServerMediumBusinessMessaging out of it

oh

13:59

wasn't that obvious?

to normies

14:00

no

(like doesn't windows have both starter.xml and yoursku.xml in the windows folder)

i think that was gone in later versions

on 10 yeah (edited)

14:00

on 8.1 nope

14:00

still here

sbs 2011 standard install iso is like 6gb (edited)

16:48

16:49

r1 background

Scamdisk

r1 background

and r2

is that based on Server 2003?

no

19:05

2008 R2

Scamdisk

2008 R2

which in turn is the server version of windows 7

ah wpf

19:32

i like being able to render the aurora

Vruh 2

ah wpf

where did the start button go

it

19:38

doesn't exist

19:38

Gone

Was the lumen vs theme ported in the end? (edited)

21:07

The one from announcements back then (edited)

i'm pretty sure i have lumen on windows 7

21:12

so yeah?

21:13

Betajyst4094

Was the lumen vs theme ported in the end? (edited)

Mostly

21:54

Marda did port it, but there are a few small caveats

21:55

Maybe he'd let you finish the theme if you wanted. I have the files. It was secretly included in the Vista7 pack

@docR so now that you have a vista capable™️ machine, wanna play among us?

arialgirl

@docR so now that you have a vista capable™️ machine, wanna play among us?

I'm down for Among Us

im just kidding, i dont play that game

F

how about beamng.drive multiplayer?

I need to buy that, still

beam does work on vista with the extended kernel

23:08

just fine

Yeah

23:08

But I game on 8.1

oh cool

23:08

then you dont have to worry

Well. I still need to install 8.1

23:09

My 3610 isn't here just yet. I don't want to move an 8.1 install, because activation

23:09

Vista I can because it's Loader'd

arialgirl

how about beamng.drive multiplayer?

beammp destroys my computer

01:22

absolutely trashes it

Vruh 2

beammp destroys my computer

I would imagine

02:11

Running about 10 cars on my 3700x causes 99% cpu usage

02:11

With ai traffic

02:12

Or was it more, I need to count

02:12

Probably something like 20

my pc was originally supposed to run windows vista. model of the fujitsu siemens pc is esprimo e5730

11:38

who tf gave me a low iq individual role?

you use microsoft edge

11:42

the chromium one not edgehtml

RaduTek

Click to see attachment 🖼️

12:21

12:22

Im no to say it again, no mems in generyne

12:41

/j

13:03

oh no

it's coming

you don't want to upgrade to 11? we will make you

they will make me

big trolling

mine

this

Deformisani SAS

who tf gave me a low iq individual role?

Not certain, but I've removed it for you

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

the chromium one not edgehtml

Implying either is good trol

man look at my taskbar. what a beauty

mfw when i use server build 22358

14:22

so that i won't get those notifications

14:22

besides it's a server os with a gui option in the setup

or because you're already running 11

Deformisani SAS

who tf gave me a low iq individual role?

that's the edge role. you gave it to yourself.

15:10

brb renaming the brave role to Really Low IQ Individual /s

Okay let's stop with this snubbery

15:16

They're just minor variations of the same thing anyway, besides Firefox and the ManChild/Roy ones

oh yeah we forgor to add a Male Poon role

And Brave actually has a good adblocker built in, which is handy since Vista still can't install Chrome extensions. So that's my pick, but only when Firefox can't do something

Scamdisk

oh yeah we forgor to add a Male Poon role

Yep

15:18

Well actually

i don't trust brave still

15:18

too shady

15:19

way shadier than Chredge

We had a Snail Moon role at one time, but removed it after the creeps bullied Theodore and dmca'd his git on questionable grounds

still waiting for Morgzilla to sue MoonChild and Tobin (edited)

Scamdisk

too shady

Over an optional rewards button? Chredge is forcing some Klarna-like thing into their browser lol

15:20

Google is a self admitted data miner

and opera is bing chilling browser

Mozilla pulls a gamer moment now and again

15:20

Opera is a bit sketchy

15:21

I'm fond of Firefox

Opera was great before they gave up on Pestro

It truly was

them giving up on pestro is why we are in the chromium sameness hell we are in today (edited)

Firefox yeeted their powerful extensions platform after 56, but it's still friendlier than the chromes(R)

15:22

The whole shell can be styled in CSS

Obama Gaming

i told you to not lock the channels

15:24

rip 8r && w2010

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Just for that, the 7 channel is now on slow mode trol

15:25

You're right

15:25

It's our democratic plot

15:25

All hail Obama. Pledge to Satan

Ximonite

that's the edge role. you gave it to yourself.

lmfao

i wonder why gta the ballad of gay tony is the best dlc for multiplayer

made a shitty calculator in c# wpf

Scamdisk

way shadier than Chredge

ok no

it works

chredge is way worse

Let's continue in 7 channel guys #windows-7

still shady

slim shady

Ximonite

chredge is way worse

ch edge the best

with the link jihacking for their shitty promo codes

shady stuff can be turned off in brave

slim shady

Brave is least shady Chrome, change my mind

chromium

15:27

period

15:27

i don't like brave

Ungoogled is kekk

Advanced Chrome was awesome before it turned buggy

yea even google chrome is shadier than brave imo

everything is shady at this point

winforms sucks and people should move to wpf trol

15:29

like i said

15:29

slim shady

Anyway let's just agree to disagree. They're the same thi... Erm, moving on

it's just a choice of which company to give your info to tbh

15:30

all pretty much the same

firefox is shady at this point

Chromiun is IE6 if Microsoft open sourced it, then Netscape would also be ie6 but more based

Ximonite

all pretty much the same

This

there is not a single browser that is not shady at this point

15:31

i guess librewolf but that's just fedora neckbeard shit

Firefox you can harden easily, but then once you sign into Sync they own you. I cast my lot with them

15:31

Brave is my second, but with the questionable things turned off

^^

15:31

icecat isn't shady at all but it also struggles to render basically any website trol

(edited)

icecat is basically stallman firefox

Mainly for its adblocker. I don't actually care much. I just need a chrome with adblocking as a second browser

i don't trust any adblocker except uBlock after adblocker plus was known to have the good ads shit

I've switched among the chromes for years they all the goddamn same

all of them are reskinned

Vruh 2

i don't trust any adblocker except uBlock after adblocker plus was known to have the good ads shit

It's that or nothing, we can't install extensions. We've already established Firefox is my main, with ublock origin

what about forking old ass webkit chrome with modern webkit but the same otherwise when /s

hence even in brave or opera i would use ublock origin

15:33

because i don't trust any other adblocker

Scamdisk

what about forking old ass webkit chrome with modern webkit but the same otherwise when /s

Okay R*n

3

does opera have a built in adblocker?

iirc yeah?

yes

based

Yeah

unbased

but opera is ching cheng hanji

Opera is kind of sketchy though

i feel like built in adblockers are just adblocker plus

15:34

good ads

is it like brave where they hide the sketch switches around in the settings?

15:35

or is it just always on sketch shit

ublock origin is the defacto adblocker

Brave has big bad scary rewards button, Opera's parent company is in one of the world's most totalitarian countries

and Chredge is NSA shit

brave rewards is completely optional and the button is real easy to hide

Scamdisk

and Chredge is NSA shit

Everything is nsa shit

15:37

yea

anyway, sbs

you don't want nsa shit?

15:37

might aswell use linux-libre

15:37

gnu icecat

If it connects to the internet, it's nsa shit

openwrt

Linus Torvalds never denied there being back doors in the Linux kernel

oh yeah to add in

15:39

use a core 2 duo

15:39

any cpu pre intel me

yep

15:39

that sent way too late

15:39

15:40

bios mods can make intel me less scary

we're going full tinfoil hat

still hardwired in the cpus tho

thinkpad with whatever the fuck the open source bios i've heard about

I think I'll join the thinkpad family next laptop I get

core 2 duo

15:41

gentoo with linux-libre

15:41

gnu icecat

15:41

openwrt in da router

How about Vista or 8.1 kekk

oh shit did you just explain how to become a neckbeard

yeah

15:41

tinfoil hat neckbeard

Also I'm still kind of j9plan

my laptop is actually a decade old

15:42

4 core Ivy shit being old flush

my main is literally 9 yo

you’re really stretching the definition of a decade

well near 9 yo

15:43

because i got in feb

15:43

feb 2013

Ximonite

you’re really stretching the definition of a decade

By a few months

15:43

Why is it 9/10 year old hardware in 2022 is fine, but 10 year old hardware in 2012 was feelscringeman

finally activated it back

docR

Why is it 9/10 year old hardware in 2022 is fine, but 10 year old hardware in 2012 was feelscringeman

something happened between 2006

docR

Why is it 9/10 year old hardware in 2022 is fine, but 10 year old hardware in 2012 was feelscringeman

hardware didn't change as much now as it did then

sorry no

15:44

in 2006

15:44

this little thing in 2006

15:44

is called core 2 duo

So desktop components have kind of platead then

yes

10 year old hardware in 2012 was still usable

15:45

anything further hell no

15:45

2002 was like

15:45

dawn of pentium 4?

why would you use a 486 in 2012 let alone today anyway

486

15:45

how

15:45

the 486 was like

15:45

20 by that point?

15:45

older?

that's why it's a hell no

24

15:46

23

15:46

yeah 23 years old

literally 33 yo now

10 year old hardware in 2012 was early pentium 4

Vruh 2

gnu icecat

gnu icecat on windows trol

athlon 64 was 9

A P4 in 2012

athlon xp was around 10

My dual core Athlon felt a little weak in 2012

a p4 was still a lot

15:47

in 2012

ye

those processors would do okay for 2012

15:48

not a lot

15:48

but okay

even now you can still a P4 if you're an absolute maniac

much like core 2 duo is okay today

btw more cores would never succeed trol

(edited)

I had a weak mobile core 2 duo that performed like a good desktop pentium 4 in 2012 and it was more than usable (edited)

Now 10 year old hardware can be used for content creation and rendering feelscringeman

which brings me to

an intel core 2 quad is still good for modern tasks unironically

the core 2 duo is nearly 16

brb gonna install final cut pro 2 on my mac mini to prove y'all wrong /s

16

i made a 3 minute video in 1080p 60fps on one

the core 2 duo is nearly 16

15:49

panic

WAIT WHAT

much like vista is 15

What will it take to kill this hardware? Javascript so dense it's heavier than transcoding an 8k video? kekk

waiting...

15:50

dont care

ImSwordQueen

waiting...

If that crashes, it's probably cuda. Just a heads up

ah yes, the basic fuck you to 8.1 users

Scamdisk

ah yes, the basic fuck you to 8.1 users

Pfffft

7th generation

slotted processors

ah yes, pentium 2

holy shit

15:51

memz is 5 years old

still don't have anything older than K7 (Athlon XP) in my posession

it can go to kindergarten

windows 10 is 7 years old

15:52

almost 7

ImSwordQueen

memz is 5 years old

not surprising

15:52

feels like memz has been around for a long time imo

i thought memz was from 2016?

it is

also i have 6 years of steam service for some reason

15:52

7 this year i guess

15:52

i made my account december 5 2015

Soo... The platea. Desktop computing just reached its peak, now it more or less is what it is?

basically

2nm processors

kill off x86, go arm is what corporates want

I remember how drastic hardware used to change every few years way back

15:54

So we're at where we're at til we're forced onto ARM feelscringeman

i just wish we could move away from x86 and the NT kernel in a way we still have the modularity of x86 machines

alder lake might be the last noticeable jump in desktop performance until arm feelscringeman

Vruh 2

i just wish we could move away from x86 and the NT kernel in a way we still have the modularity of x86 machines

I imagine that will exist, but he a niche for we folk who like to control our stuff

it's already a niche

Vruh 2

it's already a niche

Exactly lol

just wait till manufacturers will be interested in making arm mobos with sockets and expansions slots for consumers

when x86_64 finally dies then vista dies too

i tell you that won't happen

vista and 2000 will remain the best x86 oses as we move on to arm and we can only hope we get something better than NT

15:55

which mind you

15:55

is 33 years old at this point (edited)

Scamdisk

just wait till manufacturers will be interested in making arm mobos with sockets and expansions slots for consumers

Stay on modular x86 until companies start retiring their new arm workstations, and scoop one up when the demand is low but supply is high lol

windows nt began development in 1989

That's why these fancy Ivy Xeon rigs are affordable

windows ot lol

the best thing ms can come up with is NT in Rust (edited)

rust is a safer version of C++ as far as i'm aware

aka NTR

2

it doesn't need to be rust

Vruh 2

windows nt began development in 1989

only a year older than linux

Ximonite

alder lake might be the last noticeable jump in desktop performance until arm feelscringeman

You think?

well it's gonna be a Windows 10X kinda deal

15:57

expected less locked down iirc

the moment we move away from NT

15:57

windows begins to evolve

15:57

finally

but we lose vista

15:57

we move from NT to NT except in Rust and the OS itself is like Windows 10X

as long as we get a good stable and consistent experience on a new kernel

!brazil @Vruh 2 thinking that microsoft can do something good in the modern age unironically (edited)

because as far as i'm aware windows has stagnated

"newer" kernel, there's nothing new about NT rewritten in rust

why does it need to be nt rewritten in rust

because that's what MS is trying to do rn internally

we're never moving from nt

15:59

ever

it's just getting rewritten in Rust

this operating system is gonna remain stagnated for the rest of our lives

15:59

and we're gonna stay on it

or it's gonna be 10X but good

as long as they keep shitting releases based on windows 10

i9-12900K is unfathomably powerful ffs..... But. Holy hell. Thing is. Only an enthusiast would pay $600+ on a CPU alone. So where's the bar for entry? What's powerful by ordinary means? What are people expected to buy? Seems like most folks just settle on chromebooks feelscringeman

i just need something to encode media with lol

if they want power, they will just buy apple's M1 Macs

desktop linux is never gonna pop off

16:00

we're gonna stay forever on NT 10 based systems

Scamdisk

if they want power, they will just buy apple's M1 Macs

Those are actually kind of based

this is sadly what we're gonna endure for however long it takes for microsoft to lift their asses off and do something actually decent

support is the issue

schools literally buy chromebooks due to them been so fucking easy to lock down so kids can't have fun

Yes

16:02

But with people using poop like that on average, these 10 year old Xeons are still powerful in comparison lol

computers have stagnated and operating systems have also stagnated

16:03

at most we'll get a move to arm and we'll remain on the same 33 year old foundation of an os which has remained mostly the same since 2015

Vruh 2

at most we'll get a move to arm and we'll remain on the same 33 year old foundation of an os which has remained mostly the same since 2015

Yeah

windows is forever staying on nt 10

16:03

this is legit a torture

A window manager, kb/mouse

16:03

Same since the 90s

My ray tracer is going to work on Windows 95 from the looks of it

win32

My ray tracer is going to work on Windows 95 from the looks of it

or we get hit with the "We swear it's not the same guys" aka WCOS aka Windows 10X and co (edited)

if we get to the point of windows 14 still being NT 10 based

16:04

i'm legit

16:04

gonna break down

Vruh 2

at most we'll get a move to arm and we'll remain on the same 33 year old foundation of an os which has remained mostly the same since 2015

Probably with some x86 instructions, like m1 incorporates

Vruh 2

gonna break down

You'll be breaking down then lol

it's not gonna be the same

it is

16:05

at most like you said

16:05

a rewrite in rust

16:05

and what the fuck is that gonna change really

no i mean the switch to arm

16:05

not NT

WoA

Unless Microsoft wants to shift beers to Linux or similar, which I doubt

too late

16:05

we already have WoA

16:05

which is already NT

emulation != real deal

To be fair CPUs will be powerful enough emulating x86 just won't even be a scuff

meh still, the fact that arm is something that's going to shit beyond phones and tablets still scares me

16:07

guess i have a stigma for arm

what should scare you is how old x86 is

arm isn't much newer

Scamdisk

guess i have a stigma for arm

I do too! There is nothing about the ISV I find appealing.

x86 - 1978 arm - 1985? yeah newer but not by much

arm64?

And it's being used to try to fulfill the modern green agenda which considers GHG to be the only thing that could affect the environment. Everything else is fine, especially increased rare earth mineral mining to meet the demand of ARM devices that have short lifespans.

risc v : (

arm64 is just a 64 bit extension to arm

16:10

just like x64 is a 64 bit extension to x86

16:10

also reminder that IA-64 was a thing

ia-64

Scamdisk

x86 - 1978 arm - 1985? yeah newer but not by much

ARM has been around nearly as long, it just want used in the same manner

also yeah i suppose it works on w7

Slot machines and such ran off ARM

not very backwards compatible as i built it for net 4.8 but hey

You built that?

port it to .net 4.0

16:12

docR

You built that?

as indicative of my name in the about

Nice

Scamdisk

port it to .net 4.0

probably a matter of changing the target to net 4.0 or 3.5

missed oportunity to call it shittycalc tho

not sure if i used any 4.8 specific feature

/s

Scamdisk

missed oportunity to call it shittycalc tho

it is shitty yeah

16:13

i just wanted to see if i could do a calculator in c# wpf

maybe change the target to .net 1.1 for extreme bruh

/s

i can't

the joke

3.5 is the oldest i could go

guess it would work on 2000 with ext kernel at the earliest

Deformisani SAS

i wonder why gta the ballad of gay tony is the best dlc for multiplayer

Buzzard

I need to see all locations where .NET exposes its version. It is possible that I could pass off 4.6.1 as 4.8.

Vruh 2

also yeah i suppose it works on w7

Does it work on vista

no

16:22

but i could make it work on vista

Let me see if it does

it uses net 4.8

I have net 48

I would like your .NET 4.8 version to try for when I attempt version spoofing .NET

i do know it does it in a few spots in the registry

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733386542868988005/935742091751993364/tinycalc.exe

16:23

try it

16:23

pretty shitty and probably buggy but if that's what you want to try

megadeth

hmmmm

I thought it would have the .NET version check in the PE stub like a lot of .NET applications do.

Betajyst4094

megadeth

Works

16:25

Vruh can you target 4.0?

16:25

I need to make sure of something

i can try

should i shove ext kernel into sbs 2008 /s

wtf

16:26

i'm gonna play it safe for now

win32

Click to see attachment 🖼️

that hresult code is not documented

16:27

tinycalc.exe

214 KB

Classic brazilman.

win32

Click to see attachment 🖼️

yeah

16:27

let me check where fucktard is

16:27

oh it's my menuitem

16:28

So yeah

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i suppose this one targets 4.0

16:28

does it

64 bit 4.8 apps do work just fine

16:28

Is only 32 bit stuff that's often broken (edited)

anything below 4.0 doesn't work

16:29

as expected

16:29

@win32 check where fucktard is

tinycalc.exe

214 KB

are you reversing my calculator

Betajyst4094

Is only 32 bit stuff that's often broken (edited)

want me to target 4.8 32 bit?

Yeah would be nice

This is the first "64 bit" .NET framework application I have ever seen.

16:31

I thought there was only one kind and the CLR for the appropriate platform would abstract everything just like with say, Java.

win32

I thought there was only one kind and the CLR for the appropriate platform would abstract everything just like with say, Java.

Yeah not at all

16:35

I was under the impression that the first two switches were used almost universally.

and they are?

No

16:36

Not used universally by everyone

i went out of my way to enable x64

16:37

because i said why not

Every .NET application I had previously analyzed was a "PE32 .NET Assembly"

A dude on betawiki would compile his net stuff in x64 just because of me lol

i know exactly who you're referring to

who is it

I don't like saying names, but is mswin

i thought he did lh net shit

he does more than that sometimes

Vruh 2

i thought he did lh net shit

The earlier lh theme decompilers are cli net stuff

oh right

is there a way to run arm .exe's on x64 windows?

no

Closest bet is qemu

There is a function that I implemented for .NET 4.8 on x64. But it breaks with 4.7 on x86...

16:43

So I didn't bother implementing it yet.

Betajyst4094

Closest bet is qemu

can it run .exes that are from windows phone apps?

If you can get wp on it, then perhaps

16:44

Can you even open exes in windows phone

xaps maybe?

that's wp's appx

i meant something like running an app in a seperate window and not in a vm

gee the naming in the EULA

i think the only way at most is running the arm exes on that funny 10 arm build or rt

Hey scamdisk, do you still have server 2003 binaries with encdecptr?

no

Doh, shouldn't have removed set up source

Windows Server 2008 Standard FE

17:04

hmm yes

just had an upload fail too

Got logged out

I was looking for something completely unrelated and ran into this (for those not on bw):

i had to take my acer aspire 5600 out and it has a 10 1511 installation that hasn't booted in almost 3 years

18:51

4*

18:52

and it had my old ms acc name too

18:52

and it thinks it's still connected to it

18:52

when i'm pretty sure i disconnected from it

18:54

it has chrome too

18:55

ok the user account was created in 2016

18:55

this installation is 5 years old

18:55

holy

18:57

i'm gonna do a backup of this drive before it dies or something

finished the backup

@win32 so, modern steam on vista when?

I think it is too 32 bit for that to happen soon.

no more vista exkernel?

no more vista extended kernel.

21:45

he is advising all extended kernel users to use vista7 instead

21:45

21:49

fr tho I'm taking over vista kernel development for a while

lmfao

21:58

someone wrote sexy on that microsoft greetings 2000 software disc

Ximonite

Reply to: fr tho I'm taking over vista kernel development for a while

xim 32 bit support when trol

zeem to night pls add function to vist kernel in syswow

arialgirl

@win32 so, modern steam on vista when?

theres a 2020.10 client that works without the built in chromium store

22:34

i've logged in and installed some games with it

ImSwordQueen

he is advising all extended kernel users to use vista7 instead

hell no. means don't expect updates for the forseeable future, not necessarily in perpetuity

22:36

and the kernel is mature enough to go without updates for a while

22:36

this is his hobby, not his life

22:36

and xim's doing some work on it now, yeah

see, if i have to use another os for gaming, im going to end up using the other os, period

arialgirl

see, if i have to use another os for gaming, im going to end up using the other os, period

then this isn't for you

22:37

use 8.1, its good enough

until steam drops support for it too clueless

arialgirl

see, if i have to use another os for gaming, im going to end up using the other os, period

steam client isnt the problem, the 2020.10 client works

22:38

i was playing project zomboid off it

so what is the problem

but the older 372 driver and 32-bit launchers fuck shit up. so not the greatest to gayum on

tbh with the steam deck, steam on linux has gotten a lot better

docR

but the older 372 driver and 32-bit launchers fuck shit up. so not the greatest to gayum on

oh yeah, the avx nvidia bug

it aint steam thats the problem, it works fine. but games after the mid 2010s are spotty

22:39

either 32-bit launchers, the need for newer drivers. not even the latest drivers, but 400.x

22:39

avx bug doesn't affect ivy

22:40

and beaming does work

32 big titty launchers

22:40

ik

so yeah

22:41

its not terrible, but its spotty. good for everything but gaming really

22:41

i do my gayming in dolphin primarily feelscringeman

games aside, i can do everything else with it

22:41

modern versions of vegas and all

22:42

even obs

22:42

my logitech gayyyming keyboard software even works

22:45

My absolute favorite game, Space Engine doesn't have any silly launchers

22:45

it uses opengl

22:46

it works on vista

22:46

then crashes over a fucking nvidia opengl related error, directly related to older nv drivers

22:46

needs like 390 or higher

22:47

if vista had geforce 390 or so i'd almost never boot 8.1

22:47

as it stands i occasionally need 8.1

22:48

as for steam client. thats never actually been an issue to date. there was the 2018 client, then someone patched a 2019 client, and now we're up to 2020.10

tbh, with the existence of steam proton and wine-dxvk, porting newer functions esp. for gaming to older windows might become easier

22:48

one issue with dxvk though, it needs a vulkan compatible driver

arialgirl

tbh, with the existence of steam proton and wine-dxvk, porting newer functions esp. for gaming to older windows might become easier

yeah seriously

arialgirl

one issue with dxvk though, it needs a vulkan compatible driver

we're only a few functions away from geforce 450 drivers iirc

but since vista has dx11, it shouldnt be an issue

32-bit will be a big milestone

22:49

geforce 450 or so will just about bring us in line with 7 and 8.1, honestly

22:50

vista is just barely trailing behind anymore

next, win10

22:50

and maybe later, win11

i can see it reaching like 2016 windows 10 level lol

22:51

afaik there are actually a few borrowed functions from 10

docR

hell no. means don't expect updates for the forseeable future, not necessarily in perpetuity

how to not get a joke 101

@arialgirlif you wanted to vc, i can do a stream and show you steam and such

we can vc

want to do so now in the hal?

ok

@Scamdisk

00:23

the most cursed

00:23

ever

00:23

Start9.exe

14.5 KB

00:23

ain't nothing much

00:23

except this

i'm an idiot

00:38

hold on

00:38

Start9-02-15-2017.7z

407.22 KB

00:38

there

that time when someone sent an email to 6000 people https://youtu.be/KWacGnaD42I?t=632 (edited)

Michael MJD

Reading Weird Emails (100K Special-ish)

spotify rich presence thing actually working swag

(edited)

12:29

got proper brave (not portable) working

12:31

usually this only works for me with the desktop client

also might investigate why chromium extensions don't work on vista soon tm

12:43

fixed ResolveLocaleName and GetNamedLocaleHashNode and they're still broken

openrgb works on vista, which is good cuz my kb needs it

arialgirl

openrgb works on vista, which is good cuz my kb needs it

That's pretty good. I use the Logitech Gaming Software... Sounds like a bloated electron app, but it's actually fairly light weight and also runs on Vista lol

16:17

Because Logitech is competent

16:17

I'm curious to try that though

16:17

I have a g305 kb

there's also the newer G HUB which I guess is electron idk

17:33

oh yea

17:34

fuck

17:35

though I'm not sure if the older Logitech Gaming Software supports the G305

serjG

there's also the newer G HUB which I guess is electron idk

Oh I don't touch that one

doesn't matter since G305 has no RGB

The last one to support 7, the non g hub one is the good one

17:36

The Logitech Options software for my mx master 2 works, too

17:36

But the installer needs 7 spoof

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

that time when someone sent an email to 6000 people https://youtu.be/KWacGnaD42I?t=632 (edited)

i get those all the time

docR

The last one to support 7, the non g hub one is the good one

does that work with blue yeti mic?

18:07

i need the logitech program for my blue yeti, one that works on win7

ImSwordQueen

how to not get a joke 101

wtf is that new moon skin bro

18:12

cursed

based skin

Michael

does that work with blue yeti mic?

I use a Snowball (not the ice), so I don't know

18:23

I can test it, though

docR

I can test it, though

can u link me the one u use and ill try it

18:24

im interested in the noise supression and other effects that can be used

18:24

since mine has a lot of background noise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVuWFCuWYrY

Global News

Trucker convoy moves through Greater Toronto Area on it's way to Ca...

18:58

This is a major event across Canada.

19:00

There are several of these convoys that are going to converge on Parliament Hill on Saturday.

Michael

can u link me the one u use and ill try it

I use software for my keyboard and mouse, I don't use anything for my Snowball. Occasionally Cablemeter, and that supports 2k lol

Michael

im interested in the noise supression and other effects that can be used

Try Cablemeter

19:21

And well, if you're dead serious about audio work, look into adjusting the acoustics of your room

19:21

There's only so much software can do

19:21

I'm not that serious ;p

19:23

19:25

Used to have a pop filter that sat front of the mic, but I got fed the heck up with the dumb bolt always coming loose and it sagging down. So now it has the sock filter, for lack of better words lol

docR

And well, if you're dead serious about audio work, look into adjusting the acoustics of your room

i dont really have much i can do in that regard, my room is only about 10x10ft

Oh damn

19:26

Well least there's less room for open air and random sounds

19:26

I can turn my Snowball on in vc quick. It always captures my clock ticking, which I leave unfiltered deliberately ;p

19:26

So when I mute the clock stops ticking flush

19:28

Speaking of which I just had to adjust my clock

we don't even have mechanical clocks anymore

19:29

phones and computers have taken over

I seldom read time off analogue clock, but I like having one ticking beside the bed anyway. I just neglect to adjust the time

19:29

That ends here

19:29

i hate random sounds, the ticking of a clock could drive me insane

Give or take a few mins, I'm not the master clock winder

skip

i hate random sounds, the ticking of a clock could drive me insane

I must have white noise around me

19:30

I have tinnitus

ouch

And inattentive ADHD

19:30

So my wind wanders a lot

for me the white noise is basically the spinning of the pc fans (edited)

On top of ringing in dead silence

19:31

So I need a clock, a fan 24/7, and perhaps some rain playing low vol off my speakers

sucks to be you i guess

I listen to a lot of music too

19:31

Nawh

19:31

I like it

o_O

Not dead silence, but relative silence with some chill sounds around me

19:32

I listen to music for hours at a time some days

yeah same

And the ringing isn't severe. Just enough to make me not fancy it

i have a ~760 song playlist on spotify

I know songs by their album

19:33

Lol

19:36

I count time on a non am/pm 24 hour clock on my electronics, yet insist on having analogue clocks around ;p

19:37

I like clocks

19:37

That can be turned around against me.. Anyway

19:37

Analogue time telling devices, music, books libraries

, and

it might (edited)

Don’t turn off your PC

arialgirl

look it's intel's new box design

arialgirl

gpu driver thinkin

09:41

windows 10 ltsc with different touch

14:27

for windows 10 it's a decent accomplishment

nice themeing you got there

the taskbar especially came out nice

~~if only wb didn't break other third party programs~~ (edited)

im not using windowblinds tho

14:29

this is a uxtheme + openshell and oldnewexplorer

14:29

also aero glass

ik, i meant that caption buttons could had been better, but meh, impossible to fix them without WB

ofc

and WB breaks non-shitdock crap

insert my windows vista theme for startisback

There's only so much you can do with 10. That there is an impressive accomplishment

16:16

ignoring the window not being themed in the second image

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

windows with 10 libraries

Hiya!

hey

ah yes, modernized u

installed wmc 2005 is it supposed to come with the special theme?

Don't think so.

royale?

02:00

idk

02:00

yeah?

02:00

if not check the cd

@win32 do you have to patch winload.exe to load an unsigned kernel on windows 7?

Yes.

how would i go about doing that

04:31

i tried to diff your winload.exe for vista to see how it works but winmerge says its identical to the stock one

weird. I changed every mov xxx, 0xc0000428 to mov xxx, 0

win32

weird. I changed every mov xxx, 0xc0000428 to mov xxx, 0

can i do that with ida pro or do i need a hex editor or something else

You could do it with a hex editor, but I can't remember the exact opcodes. You also have to set the PE checksum with cff explorer after patching.

win32

You could do it with a hex editor, but I can't remember the exact opcodes. You also have to set the PE checksum with cff explorer after patching.

hmm, is there an easier way to do that other than using a hex editor (edited)

04:34

is there something that will just let me edit asm in a exe/dll (edited)

Not really. ida pro could do this too, but you will end up using its hex editor to edit stuff

hmm

04:37

can u also send me that wrapper creator script thing u sent before

04:37

plz

scanexp.exe

579 KB

thank you :)

04:39

im trying to search for 0xc0000428 in ida pro but i cant find anything

04:39

to patch winload

04:40

oh i found it

04:40

so i just need to change all of these 0xc0000428 to 0

04:41

this is the type of thing im looking for right

yes

so how do i get an opcode out of this

04:41

i assume its not just the one on the left

go into the hex editor part, it will be synchronized to the instruction you're on. that's your opcode

oh ok

04:42

cool

04:42

is there only 1 winload.exe or is there another one somewhere else?

there is only one in system32 that is in use. there is another one in a subfolder but it's never used.

04:44

and there is also winload.efi

cool

04:44

so is this what i want to use for example: B800000000

04:44

this is mov eax,0x0

yes

cool

ok winload.exe is patched

04:53

now what should i do for the pe checksum thing @win32

04:53

im gonna install cff explorer

Michael

now what should i do for the pe checksum thing @win32

i assume i just need to change the md5 and sha-1 to the same ones as the original winload?

04:54

or is there anything else i need to do

no, as those would be wrong. what you need to do is go to "rebuilder", only check "update checksum", rebuild and save

oh ok

04:58

i already patched it against the original though, will it be fine if i leave it then just do update?

i don't think so, as the cumulative updates have winload in them. also you need to set recoveryenabled to no in bcdedit, because windows 7 is really aggressive about replacing modded files

hmm

04:59

i did update checksum and they have changed so i think winload.exe is good

05:00

now i will do winload.efi

05:00

should i also update checksum on the efi file? @win32

yes

kk

win32

Not really. ida pro could do this too, but you will end up using its hex editor to edit stuff

You can edit the assembly directly though?

By selecting the opcode you need

05:12

Then edit > patch program > assemble

05:12

Change anything you need, click ok and close the dialog that pops up after

05:12

Betajyst4094

By selecting the opcode you need

thank you for the info, i know next to nothing about ida so this is useful

the problem is that "assemble" is almost useless when it comes to anything that is not jumps. i don't think it can handle anything with 64 bit registers

Pretty sure I do remember using it for those

how do i copy function names in ida for setexp.exe again

05:28

im trying to do it but its outputting all the segments and other crap with it which i dont want (edited)

05:30

oh dependency walker not ida pro

05:30

i think

yes dependency walker

@win32 do you just use visual studio to make these wrappers?

yes

i cant get visual studio to find windows.h for some reason

05:43

it just shows me pch.h and framework.h

05:43

in my includes

checked vc++ directories in project settings?

apparently im missing the windows kits for some reason

05:47

i have one but its only partial and doesnt have windows.h

05:48

i think i need to use visual studio 2010 or something

05:48

instead of the 2022 one that i have

05:49

can vs 2010 compile a 64-bit kernel32 dll?

yes, that's what was i used as it's presently the newest vs ide that works on vista, tho 2022 rc compilers are known to work too

win32

yes, that's what was i used as it's presently the newest vs ide that works on vista, tho 2022 rc compilers are known to work too

did you use the x86 one?

05:49

from piratebay

05:50

or some other

i used the x64 compilers, which aren't enabled by default. i used the vs installer from MS on a win10 install, selected "build tools", copied them over, set some environment variables and got some basic stuff to compile. unfortunately it's really fucking hard to do it now

05:54

...but if you mean using vs compilers in general for this kind of thing, they should all work from like vs6 and up, as the compiler/linker switches needed to make dlls not linked to like msvcrt should be in all versions

i was just concerned if the compilers that come with vs2010 can compile a 64bit dll

05:54

i assume kernel32 from system32 is 64bit

yes

05:55

everything in system32 must be for its native arch

kk

vs2005 and up should be able to do it, even though 2005 is a little tricky about the x64 stuff

kk

05:57

thank you

05:57

:)

05:57

i am going to try to convert the decompiled getversionexw C code from vista exkernel to C++ and make it work in windows 7 kernelbase.dll

05:58

maybe its harder than i think it is

05:58

ill see

05:58

if that works i will also put some functions from windows 10 next

Michael

i am going to try to convert the decompiled getversionexw C code from vista exkernel to C++ and make it work in windows 7 kernelbase.dll

@win32 its ok if i use that method in my kernel right? just wanted to make sure ur cool with it

yeah, i did intend on using it in other oses eventually. unfortunately the vista thing is nowhere near perfect as you can see with our firefox 97 problems so..

kk, i think it will maybe work better on 7 than vista, at least for now

06:13

since 7 has more modern api's and all

it is still missing many delay-loaded win8 functions used by the msvcrt runtime so some applications like web browsers may not respond as well

win32

it is still missing many delay-loaded win8 functions used by the msvcrt runtime so some applications like web browsers may not respond as well

well for now most things still support 7

06:16

the main thing i was thinking it could be used for is python

06:16

python 3.9.x+ requires windows 8.1 now

that should be ok, i got the installer check bypassed on vista too

@win32 how do i get the header that has RtlGetVersion and others in it? i read that i need windows ddk so i installed that but theres no include folder

06:37

wait nevermind there is an include folder its just named different

06:42

what header is RtlSetLastWin32Error in (edited)

i don't think it has a header, but it's basically the same thing as setlasterror

kk cool

06:45

now i need to figure out these hibyte's in C++

06:45

thats the last error i have

06:45

06:47

i think this BaseRCNumber doesnt exist

06:47

im not sure what its for

that is ida notation that doesn't really work with a compiler. trying to remember what basercnumber, possibly something ida made up too

06:47

this is for the expanded OSVERSIONINFOEXW struct.

so i guess basercnumber is majorVersion in there?

06:48

if i had to guess

lemme guess, getting around office 2016+'s artificial block

it's not majorversion. notice how the structure is treated like an array because it's normally a smaller structure. so the index 0 of the "array" holds the existing members of OSVERSIONINFOW. but if it's larger, the extra members are pushed into index 1. (edited)

Scamdisk

lemme guess, getting around office 2016+'s artificial block

not quite

win32

it's not majorversion. notice how the structure is treated like an array because it's normally a smaller structure. so the index 0 of the "array" holds the existing members of OSVERSIONINFOW. but if it's larger, the extra members are pushed into index 1. (edited)

hmm

06:50

this is confusing lol

so this would correspond to wSuiteMask in OSVERSIONINFOEXW

win32

so this would correspond to wSuiteMask in OSVERSIONINFOEXW

how did you get that?

06:51

whats the logic there

06:52

i have this error now too

Michael

i have this error now too

i think this means i cant change anything in lpVersionInformation since its an argument of the function

i was referring to the value on the left. in this case, i'm not sure the value comes from

ah

06:53

im not sure if this is even needed

06:53

it looks like its not even using lpversioninformation

06:53

for anything

06:53

since its just an argument of the function

06:54

its not usable globally i guess

I just checked where BaseRCNumber comes from: some value very deep in the PEB. but you need a special custom header and library file to use it

so what do i do lol

06:55

i dont think this code even does anything anyways

Learn coding

Michael

i dont think this code even does anything anyways

its not even using lpVersionInformation as far as i can tell

06:55

after that point

06:55

theres just a return 1 after it

Michael

i dont think this code even does anything anyways

set it to VER_SUITE_TERMINAL

win32

set it to VER_SUITE_TERMINAL

how'd you gather that?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winnt/ns-winnt-osversioninfoexw - a list of values for that member of the struct

OSVERSIONINFOEXW (winnt.h) - Win32 apps

Contains operating system version information. The information includes major and minor version numbers, a build number, a platform identifier, and information about product suites and the latest Service Pack installed on the system.

oh ok

06:56

my winddk is totally messed up i think

06:56

ouch

im not sure what the deal is

you will have to go into project settings to disable the precompiled header

06:59

as for your includes are they like #include <ntddk.h> or "ntddk.h"?

win32

as for your includes are they like #include <ntddk.h> or "ntddk.h"?

#include <ntddk.h>

if the ddk is in the vc++ directories it should be fine

now i have this

07:00

this is a mess lol

07:00

these are all errors in crtdefs.h

07:01

ok i almost fixed it i think

07:02

now its telling me it cant open a bunch of source files

07:02

i'm getting so tired now, but the directories must be the ones that contain the headers, not the ones that are one or two levels above

so apparently winddk isnt meant to be used in visual studio

07:08

im not sure how im supposed to get ntddk.h then if i cant use winddk

you could use this: https://github.com/GeorgyFirsov/NtDll/ but it needs to be modified to add some functions like rtlgetversion (though it should be easy once you see how the other functions in the header work)

GitHub - GeorgyFirsov/NtDll: Header-only C++ library that provides ...

Header-only C++ library that provides user-friendly access to functions from NtDll.dll in Windows. - GitHub - GeorgyFirsov/NtDll: Header-only C++ library that provides user-friendly access to funct...

07:12

or maybe you could use one that uses its own library to call ntdll directly, but those also lack stuff like rtlgetversion and it's a little harder to rebuild a lib

win32

or maybe you could use one that uses its own library to call ntdll directly, but those also lack stuff like rtlgetversion and it's a little harder to rebuild a lib

i think i figured it out with the help of stackoverflow

so i need visual studio 2010 sp1 to compile this i think

07:45

and sp1 was released as an online installer and of course the thing it downloads from is gone

07:45

and microsoft is basically just like "Please use VS2019 as VS2010 is not compatible with windows anymore"

https://msdn.hackerc.at/Visual%20Studio%202010/ - sp1 is in there

08:54

rtm is doa on vista for me because the resource compiler always crashes

installing pop os on my 320gb drive that i got for free. it had a german version of windows 7

man. yesterday was a long time ago

It tends to do it alot.

firefox™

So I’m able to initiate windows vista setup on my ryzen system by plugging the usb to one of the back ports

14:14

Let’s see if this new motherboard has the same bsod issue, probably does

14:16

It’s going to have the avx issue too like haswell+

14:16

With kvm I was able to mask that out, but I’m too lazy to try kvm again.

Has it installed?

yes

14:35

and it works

14:35

i just need the intel lan driver

Get a threadripper trol

no

It was a joke

Now, installing the display driver

@docR a few things

15:02

need the latest extkern (this is just 6.0), also the ff fonts fix

15:03

so far, no bsod knocks on wood

arialgirl

need the latest extkern (this is just 6.0), also the ff fonts fix

sec

15:06

http://ximonite.com/win32/download.html

thx

Install KB4474419 from there beforehand

15:06

or it will

i think its already installed

15:07

this is extkern 6

win32

https://msdn.hackerc.at/Visual%20Studio%202010/ - sp1 is in there

thank you :)

@win32 i got my dll to build >:O

18:10

========== Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========

>:O

18:10

:^)

18:11

9k warnings

Bad news @docR @win5270

18:17

Bad pool header creeped up again

18:18

It may be possible to thwart it by disabling the on-die controller…

18:22

That’s really unfortunate though. From my current testing, vista otherwise runs just fine on ryzen (apart from the avx bugs)

18:24

anyway, im booted back, im just gonna test games which have nothing to do with the bad pool header bs

f

its also possible it got triggered because it seems everything is plugged into the dev_149c controller

gaming platform

18:28

probably why

18:28

and i know thats the on die controller

18:28

because right next to the device is the psp module and hd audio thing

18:28

both of which are obviously also on cpu

18:29

Lol and just as I went to start my game it happened again…

18:31

Anyway, it is what it is, until a more intricate fix for the problem is developed this is just going to be an issue

18:31

hopefully soon i can swap over to dual socket ivy

i am still kinda convinced it's the updated bios[

well, this is an x570 motherboard

what date is the bios

18:33

oh wait

its fairly upto date

exactly

18:34

i'm pretty sure these usb controller issues with older oses came with newer bios

18:34

2021 and forward

i mean i got reports of bsods in msfn from a while ago too

18:35

Anyway I’ve given up. The game crashes on launch too, and it’s probably because of the avx bug

18:36

Cuz it was working on kvm

18:36

This platform isn’t usable on vista baremetal

18:41

from the looks of that thread, youre going to have these bsods unless you have a very early platform

1700x with a 2018 bios

thatll work, or 2000 series with the same bios should work too

my 2400g worked with xp using generic drivers using a 2020 bios

18:46

early 2020 iirc

18:47

both xp and 7 stopped working after i updated the bios

18:47

i had to use real amd drivers

@win32 so i got my kernel compiled and put it in, the OS will sit on CLASSPNP.SYS for a couple seconds and then reboot

19:04

what does that mean

this is what i have now

i think maybe my dll isnt built properly

21:00

i think its because of trying to use ntdll through getprocaddress which probably cant work in the kernel

21:00

so i need to have ntdll as an import instead

the program cant start but make it blue screen

21:29

instead of an error message

so i tested out this weird windows 10 to 7 mod that was showcased before, and they posted a proper link to it

22:54

it actually is windows 10 1607 and they went the whole 9 yards to make it look like 7

22:54

certified

moment

22:55

(those work too)

ok so now my imports are fine but the kernel still wont load

23:51

i think i figured out why

23:56

message.txt

8.67 KB

@Michael wait what are you trying to do?

arialgirl

@Michael wait what are you trying to do?

making a kernel wrapper

00:17

kernelbase.dll

for vista?

windows 7

oh

from this debug log it looks like its crashing on StartSystemThread with an access violation

00:18

so something is fatally wrong

00:18

but the only thing i changed was getversionex

@Ximonite you have any clue as to whats going on?

00:20

or is this out of your jurisdiction lol

message.txt

60.51 KB

00:21

this is my source code

00:26

i think my linker isnt adding my exports

00:26

if i look in cff explorer they show but in ida pro i dont see them in the function list

00:27

this is all i see in ida

The exports are not really functions because they do nothing but forward to the other dll. So they don't appear in IDA unless you look at its "exports" view.

oh ok

01:55

im not sure what the access violation is then

01:55

it says its on set power state or something

Seems kinda strange. I know that the wrapper business gets more and more complicated with NT 6 and 64 bit in the equation. There are some other methods that can be used, but I'm not sure how to apply them to 7 and its kernelbase. I tried guiding someone else through it on 7 and he gave up iirc. He wasn't fucking around either, because he did write some other shit that works really nice on Vista/7

win32

Seems kinda strange. I know that the wrapper business gets more and more complicated with NT 6 and 64 bit in the equation. There are some other methods that can be used, but I'm not sure how to apply them to 7 and its kernelbase. I tried guiding someone else through it on 7 and he gave up iirc. He wasn't fucking around either, because he did write some other shit that works really nice on Vista/7

i tried to do it manually by editing the dll in hex but thats way over my head

01:58

i might mess with xp instead of 7 for now since 5.x is probably easier

Michael

i tried to do it manually by editing the dll in hex but thats way over my head

That might be the only way. And that only works well on 64 bit. I added/expanded sections, compiled dummy DLLs containing nothing but the new functions, extracted the hex code, pasted into the old DLL and refactored it.

01:59

32 bit stuff on Vista works a little more like you were trying to do. But even that fucked up Windows installer a bit

win32

That might be the only way. And that only works well on 64 bit. I added/expanded sections, compiled dummy DLLs containing nothing but the new functions, extracted the hex code, pasted into the old DLL and refactored it.

hmm that actually doesnt sound too bad

02:00

i wish this stuff was documented better

02:00

information is scarce and is all over the place when it is available

02:01

the issue i was having with editing hex manually is that the addresses in hex vs the ones ida was showing me were wrong

02:01

i read ximonite's post about how its the difference between the addresses of the 2 functions backwards but thats not what i got when i subtracted the 2 functions and flipped it

Michael

i wish this stuff was documented better

i agree. the only thing that could be worse than this is me only speaking Japanese or something

Michael

the issue i was having with editing hex manually is that the addresses in hex vs the ones ida was showing me were wrong

There are two sets of addresses shown in IDA: offsets like hex editors show and the virtual addresses that are predominant

win32

There are two sets of addresses shown in IDA: offsets like hex editors show and the virtual addresses that are predominant

how can i view the hex editor style offsets?

02:03

or whichever ones i need

02:03

to change the offsets in the function calls

Michael

how can i view the hex editor style offsets?

they're here:

oh ok

02:04

let me take a look in my ida

02:08

@win32 it still doesnt give me the right address even after using those

02:09

02:10

i think the windows hex calculator maybe is bugged

for the imports, subtract the address for the instruction immediately after the import call from the import address

win32

for the imports, subtract the address for the instruction immediately after the import call from the import address

im looking at the ones for an assembly function call right now

02:11

call cs:__imp_RtlGetVersion

02:11

the start of the function is at 00002280h, the function call thing is at 00002296h, and the function its calling starts at 000471C8h

02:11

no matter how i subtract it its not right

This is what you should get for the offset to put in the import call. It has to be little endian, so the resulting opcode will be FF 15 2C 4F 04 00

win32

This is what you should get for the offset to put in the import call. It has to be little endian, so the resulting opcode will be FF 15 2C 4F 04 00

in hxd its telling me FF 15 2C 57 04 00

02:14

this is just the original kernelbase.dll with no mods

I'm confused... that is quite a different offset

win32

This is what you should get for the offset to put in the import call. It has to be little endian, so the resulting opcode will be FF 15 2C 4F 04 00

what calculator is this?

21996 calc

win32

This is what you should get for the offset to put in the import call. It has to be little endian, so the resulting opcode will be FF 15 2C 4F 04 00

how did you get 229C out of that?

02:17

its 2296

229C is the start of the instruction after the import call. The offsets are based off those.

oh ok

02:19

yeah thats weird

02:19

is the one in kernelbase.dll just wrong? (edited)

02:19

that doesnt make sense

02:19

i get the same result you did with this calculator im using

02:19

44F2C

it must be correct. where are these function calls again?

win32

it must be correct. where are these function calls again?

GetVersionExW in windows 7 64bit kernelbase.dll

so what are you trying to call from getversionexw? or are you trying to call it?

win32

so what are you trying to call from getversionexw? or are you trying to call it?

im not trying to call anything, just trying to see how the addresses work in the existing code

02:58

if you look at that function call thats already in GetVersionExW, thats the one we were looking at

02:58

where the math doesnt add up on it

rtlgetversion?

03:10

which kernelbase version (as in 6.1.7601.xxxxx) is this?

win32

which kernelbase version (as in 6.1.7601.xxxxx) is this?

its just the one off my system, 6.1.7601.24545

KernelBase.dll

399 KB

i'm drunk

04:10

i actually forgot that i based my import call offset calculations on the RVA and not the raw offsets that are used in the hex editors

as always

i'ma watch voyager

win32

i actually forgot that i based my import call offset calculations on the RVA and not the raw offsets that are used in the hex editors

ok yeah, i get the right result if i do it that way

04:46

thank you :)

04:46

i think i might be able to patch this dll now with this method

Michael

ok yeah, i get the right result if i do it that way

so the correct method is to do the rva subtraction and then convert it to little indian with this converter: https://www.scadacore.com/tools/programming-calculators/online-hex-converter/

Online Hex Converter - Bytes, Ints, Floats, Significance, Endians -...

Convert Hex values into Bytes, Ints, and Floats of different bit significance, Bit Endians, and byte significance for interfacing with unknown field devices

04:47

and that will give you 2C 57 04 which is what the dll has in it

04:47

FF 15 2C 57 04 00

Happy birthday to me

happy bday

happy birthday!

ImSwordQueen

Happy birthday to me

Happy birthday my man

11:17

Happy birthday!

Tyty

Happy birthday @ImSwordQueen !

Ty

happy birthday

Happy birthday @ImSwordQueen

Currently defrosting the car. It’s buried in snow of course.

yesterday i was defrosting my dad's car with him

12:29

there was no visible car at first

12:29

and when we got to the inside it had iced up

ImSwordQueen

Happy birthday to me

happy birthday!

12:38

hope you have a very delicious cake

ImSwordQueen

Happy birthday to me

Happy Birthday

Ty guys (edited)

@ImSwordQueen Happy birthday!!

also happy bday to vista

January 30th, 2007

The roads were terrible today. Aside from having to get my car out of the snow, it was a slippery ride to work.

15:40

Black ice everywhere.

15:40

I’m glad I’m off tomorrow again lol

15:50

Happy birthday! @ImSwordQueen

Ty

happy birthday @ImSwordQueen

Ty

@docR you’re still active in vc

That shouldn't be

17:37

Should be fixed now

ImSwordQueen

also happy bday to vista

YAY :D (edited)

19:51

Happy Birthday Windows Vista!

Here's my amazingly awesome cake...

Cheese with salami

*pepperoni

Same thing

ImSwordQueen

Cheese with salami

You once mistook my mspaint sun like that

20:05

you forgot the top part

20:06

That's why

how do i equip the wmc 2002 theme on my wmc installation

when adguard blocks so many ads it displays as ∞

ImSwordQueen

Ty guys (edited)

happy birthday

ImSwordQueen

also happy bday to vista

how did you get discord to work on vista?

what linux os should i install on my 320 gb hard disk?

Back from work.

Deformisani SAS

how did you get discord to work on vista?

You use the website on a browser

21:58

Preferably a chromium based one, I would suggest brave.

@win32 how do you change function calls when you're going backwards in a file?

22:09

like when the function you're calling comes before the actual function call statement

22:09

im looking at GetVersionExW where GetVersionExW_0 comes before it and it doesnt make any sense to me no matter how i calculate it

If the function is in the file and not an import, you can just use the assemble option with "call GetVersionExW_0"

win32

If the function is in the file and not an import, you can just use the assemble option with "call GetVersionExW_0"

i cant easily do that because i get errors like this after patching the function into the dll (i think because the function calls arent right)

22:14

maybe i did something wrong

Yes, that shouldn't happen by simply changing an instruction. actually ida's hex editor is good for a lot of things except for copy/pasting more than 16 bytes

win32

Yes, that shouldn't happen by simply changing an instruction. actually ida's hex editor is good for a lot of things except for copy/pasting more than 16 bytes

this is what i put in, i put it after GetSystemDefaultSort

this looks like it was placed in existing code. which section?

win32

this looks like it was placed in existing code. which section?

i put it right at the end of GetSystemDefaultSort (edited)

22:18

hmm

Does it go past 46BFF?

win32

Does it go past 46BFF?

46bff is the end of .text

22:20

is that part of the function (GetSystemDefaultSort)

No, that is mostly empty space. Actually you overwrote the debug directory, but the file should be fine without it.

22:20

But there is one thing you should be careful about.

22:21

A section's virtual size is almost always smaller than its raw size. The empty space accounts for the difference and anything past will not execute. So you will have to change the virtual size to be the same as the raw size.

arialgirl

Preferably a chromium based one, I would suggest brave.

i used nativefier to make a discord "client". it works but it will log you off every time you close it

22:22

so i choosen to use firefox

win32

A section's virtual size is almost always smaller than its raw size. The empty space accounts for the difference and anything past will not execute. So you will have to change the virtual size to be the same as the raw size.

how would i do that?

you can do it in cff explorer. in "section headers" just change the virtual size to be the same as the raw size

win32

you can do it in cff explorer. in "section headers" just change the virtual size to be the same as the raw size

ok, i did it

22:24

so i clicked through all those errors in ida and my function shows up like this in the code

22:25

just a bunch of garbled mess

right click at the beginning, click undefine

22:25

then click "code"

arialgirl

Preferably a chromium based one, I would suggest brave.

but how do u get app

win32

right click at the beginning, click undefine

i dont even think this is the same code (edited)

22:26

no, that looks like a non-version related function...

22:27

always make sure to download symbols when offered

win32

no, that looks like a non-version related function...

my code doesnt even appear to be in here

win32

always make sure to download symbols when offered

i have the symbols but when i added my function it messed up all the function names (edited)

you looked at LCMapStringA, which is at offset 46110. Your function should be near 469A0. But with the errors IDA is reported and IDA not even resolving exported names, I think you destroyed the export table

im not sure how i did that

22:31

all i did was paste my function in after GetSystemDefaultSort (edited)

I hope you did a "paste write" and not a "paste insert". paste insert puts new bytes and pushes existing bytes down

win32

I hope you did a "paste write" and not a "paste insert". paste insert puts new bytes and pushes existing bytes down

how do i do a paste write in hex editor neo

i'm not sure about that one... i'll check it out

it said

    Open (or create) the document you want to paste text to.
    Make sure the required encoding is selected.
    Navigate to the position where you want to paste text.
    Check the Insert Mode switch. Turn it OFF to overwrite existing document's data with Clipboard's data, or ON to make room for Clipboard's data.
    Make sure the text pane is visible and active (the cursor image has a frame around it).
    Execute the Edit » Paste command.

22:33

i had it in insert mode to not overwrite existing data

you have to "overwrite" data as in overwriting those empty bytes

if i overwrote existing data i would end up writing into the debug area

22:34

and idata

the debug directory is not that important. if the function is small enough, it won't go into data. but if it is then you should consider adding a new section

win32

the debug directory is not that important. if the function is small enough, it won't go into data. but if it is then you should consider adding a new section

how would i add a new section

22:35

because i plan to add more functions once i figure this out

there's an easy way and a painful way. the easy way can be done for 64 bit (and if the file doesn't have resources people want to change, which is most of them thanks to *.mui)

win32

there's an easy way and a painful way. the easy way can be done for 64 bit (and if the file doesn't have resources people want to change, which is most of them thanks to *.mui)

can you show me both? i plan to do 32bit too

how do i equip the wmc 2002 theme on my wmc installation

Michael

can you show me both? i plan to do 32bit too

easy way: in cff explorer go to section headers. right click "new section (empty space)" put like 20000h bytes because you might need to end up moving the export table there if you add any completely new functions.

22:45

and the hard way also involves the same steps, but requires going into a hex editor afterwards at the beginning of the file where the pe header is. you have to move the memory addresses around for the new section so that it's before rsrc and reloc. then you have to move the contents of rsrc and reloc to where rsrc and reloc have been pushed down, and move the entries for "resource directory" and "relocation directory" locations in the header to the new RVA locations of rsrc and reloc.

win32

and the hard way also involves the same steps, but requires going into a hex editor afterwards at the beginning of the file where the pe header is. you have to move the memory addresses around for the new section so that it's before rsrc and reloc. then you have to move the contents of rsrc and reloc to where rsrc and reloc have been pushed down, and move the entries for "resource directory" and "relocation directory" locations in the header to the new RVA locations of rsrc and reloc.

ok, now heres another question, how can i add imports?

22:49

the version spoofing code needs GetPrivateProfileIntW which i currently dont have as an import

that's really, really hard. it has been done on 32 bit, but it involves stuff like manually moving every import over to accommodate the new one. i started going with wrappers for that reason. i guess you will have to getprocaddress/loadlibrary with that

win32

that's really, really hard. it has been done on 32 bit, but it involves stuff like manually moving every import over to accommodate the new one. i started going with wrappers for that reason. i guess you will have to getprocaddress/loadlibrary with that

well the wrappers dont work on 6.1 lol

22:51

what am i supposed to do

I could keep colluding to give Vista an ever growing advantage over libraryOS... but again, BWC used getprocaddress(loadlibrary(kernel32.dll), "getprivateprofileintw") to get function pointers without having to touch the import table

i see

22:55

i read that uses a lot of cpu though?

not really, most programs use that, even your kernelbase

oh ok

22:56

ill do that then

ok so i added my function, now how can i add it as an export @win32 (edited)

23:11

so that i can call it from my other function

23:15

and i will also need to change the exports for getversionexw to add my new spoofer function

not all functions have to be exported. which function is it?

win32

not all functions have to be exported. which function is it?

its GetPrivateProfileIntW

23:15

i need to use it for my GetVersionExW spoofer so it has to be exported i think

23:15

so that i can use patch > assemble to put it in

@docR when do you wanna vc?

23:15

im gonna finish eating

Michael

so that i can use patch > assemble to put it in

to call it within the file, you actually don't

win32

to call it within the file, you actually don't

how would i call it then? it doesnt show in the function list

does it have a name like sub_7ffff231240?

23:16

you call it with that name

i dont think so

23:17

this is all i have

as for moving the export table location of getversionexw, go to the export table view in cff explorer and change the "function RVA"

23:17

the one above it is getversionexw i guess

23:19

i also need to add the .xdata for osverini and others (edited)

or you can just do a "call 7fff231250h". but you need to write the dll name and function name in a data section for loadlibrary/getprocaddress. kernel32.dll is already somewhere in there, while you will have to find some empty space for the function names. something like this:

23:19

actually you can put the strings in the text section as they're not being written to

oh ok

arialgirl

@docR when do you wanna vc?

hmmmm. well i'm about to read

23:21

but soon

23:21

we can hop in now, but i'll be in and out soon

Michael

oh ok

so how can i write the function names in there?

no, id rather you wait if you wanna read

23:22

we can discord later at night

alright

i think i can do it with a hex editor

Michael

so how can i write the function names in there?

do it on the "text side" of a hex editor. keep the starting address handy and use the same rule to get the offsets for the lea instructions

23:24

if you use loadlibraryexw they will be wide chars so it will be like "G.e.t."

win32

if you use loadlibraryexw they will be wide chars so it will be like "G.e.t."

can i just copy paste the hex out of the ida view for my compiled dll?

23:25

i think that would be easier

yeah

win32

yeah

ok i did that, but its just reading "k" instead of "kernel32.dll"

23:28

ok i think ive done it

23:48

23:49

chromium browser moment

00:01

or maybe discord is just that heavy

00:01

lol

should i try brave

i just use it for anything that sticks its nose up at firefox

@win32 i think i did it but i have this weird error (edited)

00:25

sub_7FF388E7467 endp ; sp-analysis failed

well i put my kernel in and i get the same access violation crash that i got with the wrapper

00:38

@win32

00:39

same exact crash and stack trace and all

00:39

is there something else i need to do for the kernel to boot?

arialgirl

or maybe discord is just that heavy

it is

Michael

well i put my kernel in and i get the same access violation crash that i got with the wrapper

1. I think you have put too many dots in the string for them to appear like that. I'd like to see the hex for that area. ~~2. Seem to be doing some weird stuff with the stack. You only grow/shrink the stack near the beginnings and ends of functions.~~ 3. You should "call" functions, not "jmp" into them. In this case, code execution jumps into GetProcAddress and your function ends in there. 4. You are doing some very weird things with the add/enter/in instructions at the beginning of the function. You should modify the existing code in VC++ to incorporate the LoadLibrary/GetProcAddress stuff and modify the function calls accordingly as they will be calling the function pointer instead of the function itself. (edited)

could someone here remove all uwp exclusive functions? or is that impossible

Angry_Birds_2.exe

262.5 KB

Michael

Click to see attachment 🖼️

@win32 i sent the hex right there

Michael

@win32 i sent the hex right there

In this case, the dots must be hex code 00, not 2E as they represent the second part of the 32 bit char.

win32

In this case, the dots must be hex code 00, not 2E as they represent the second part of the 32 bit char.

if i make the dots 00 then it only reads k and not k.e.r.n.e.l.3.2...d.l.l

weird, but that's the only valid type of "dot".

05:09

reload the file and it will probably show it correctly then

05:10

When I was much younger, my reading comprehension wasn't nearly as good as my ability to write. Apparently it is still the same way...

win32

weird, but that's the only valid type of "dot".

this is what i get when i write it like that

That should be fine. But you haven't addressed the two other parameters in the function that come after the string:

05:29

that might be confusing ida a bit

@win32 i re-did my kernel but it still crashes with that same access violation error

14:44

14:45

@dragogos welcome back

yo

give this guy the romanian role btw

done

thx

yw

meanwhile while my vm is downloading updates

15:03

i want to show a build of server 2003 that i compiled

15:03

for someones project

dragogos

meanwhile while my vm is downloading updates

personally i like to use updatepack7r2 to update win7

skip

personally i like to use updatepack7r2 to update win7

if it ain't broke, don't fix it

especially that it can create pre-updated iso files even with bypassesu integrated

hm

15:04

nice

dragogos

if it ain't broke, don't fix it

yeah and this one downloads them from microsoft right?

yeah

pretty baller

15:05

though i don't see why it's called wsusoffline if it requires internet connection

dragogos

for someones project

here is bindows build 3792

so it's fully complete?

15:06

like the components?

under the hood i didn't do much becasue i have no idea how i could import 7 entry points

skip

like the components?

eh

15:06

few dlls didn't compile

dragogos

under the hood i didn't do much becasue i have no idea how i could import 7 entry points

because i need like pretty clean c++ code

dragogos

here is bindows build 3792

>registered to Linus Sebastian

and 3793

windows xp extended kernel when

was a failure that made me like quit the project

15:08

3793

btw how did you guys make bindows?

15:08

like how did you modify the os itself

get src code

15:08

learn how to code

skip

btw how did you guys make bindows?

before we were reshacking stuff

find the stuff you want to mod

then we decided to get the server 2003 source code

15:08

and do whatever

dragogos

before we were reshacking stuff

like extracting the cab files from setup and reshacking them?

skip

like extracting the cab files from setup and reshacking them?

yeah

but how did you add like new software like mypal and stuff

automatic setup

dragogos

and do whatever

we imported sp2 entry points

with the $oem$ folder

ImSwordQueen

automatic setup

tell me about it

15:09

ohhhh

skip

but how did you add like new software like mypal and stuff

we didn't add software at that time yet with nlite

on vista and up you can install them and then sysprep

ImSwordQueen

on vista and up you can install them and then sysprep

you could do that on xp too

ImSwordQueen

on vista and up you can install them and then sysprep

yeah i did just that

isn't that more difficult to do?

ImSwordQueen

isn't that more difficult to do?

it's the same process

15:10

do the things

15:10

sysprep

15:10

package in wim

15:10

done

oh the xp wim thing

yeah

i thought it was the i386 thing

you can still pack it into a wim (edited)

yeah

and deploy it with like imagex

or a longhorn installer

or the longhorn setup

thats what i used to do with xp mods and it worked quite wonderfully

15:11

longhorn setup sucked balls i never got that to work

15:11

there was this modded longhorn 4074 installer called pantherxp

15:11

but that had very bad documentation

15:12

soooo

15:12

i just used imagex

so you compiled 2003 from source? neat

arialgirl

so you compiled 2003 from source? neat

yup

the source was incomplete from what i recall

15:12

so he still had to put a few files in

yeah

ah

like winlogon?

ye

was winlogon there

15:13

no

15:13

ok

if only we had oobe files

would be nice if the vista source got leaked

15:13

and bad

arialgirl

would be nice if the vista source got leaked

vista extended kernel development boosted by 600%

because vista src = a lot of projects die

if i will get the compatibility components from windows 7

15:13

that would be nice

yesn't

to make like a server 2003 that has windows 7 compatibility

the vista extended kernel is basically just a few dll's backported from 7

15:14

it's still a monumental effort

i heard that win32 will stop vista's extended kerned if the src leaks

but i doubt there will ever be a windows xp extended kernel

15:14

cause you cant just drop a few win7 dlls in there to make it work

ImSwordQueen

i heard that win32 will stop vista's extended kerned if the src leaks

why (edited)

skip

but i doubt there will ever be a windows xp extended kernel

some betaarchive member did something

because he will get accused of stealing the source?

skip

but i doubt there will ever be a windows xp extended kernel

there already is one (sorta), but it barely works

the x64 one?

its only for NT 5.2

that allows running ripcord

15:14

iirc

skip

because he will get accused of stealing the source?

yep

x86 & x64

one core api??

yeah

one joke api you mean

it only works on NT 5.2

one core api is shit lol

the 5.1 binaries are broken

a guy i know tried installing it and never figured it out

hoo boy

15:15

this extended kernel is not keepin up

huh?

15:16

wdym

skip

cause you cant just drop a few win7 dlls in there to make it work

Well that's not how Vista extended kernel works

skip

wdym

the xp one or idk

The functions from within Windows 7 have to be backported to Vista

oh

15:16

right

ImSwordQueen

if only we had oobe files

actually oobe works if you dont mess with winlogon or pidgen

You can't just drop 7 DLLs in Vista, that would just destroy the OS

well i couldve figured lol

Scamdisk

actually oobe works if you dont mess with winlogon or pidgen

then why no 5.2 oobe

its alot more work than that

win5270

The functions from within Windows 7 have to be backported to Vista

yeah

The only case where that actually does work is updating Windows Media Foundation

15:17

You can copy those DLLs from Win7 to Vista and they work

anyone know if winlogon needs to be patched to load a custom kernel32.dll?

15:17

on xp

so what exactly are the chances of like backporting the kernel functions from 7 into xp? trol

skip

so what exactly are the chances of like backporting the kernel functions from 7 into xp? trol

slim to none

15:18

XP's kernel is just too different from Vista and newer for it to be feasible

Michael

Click to see attachment 🖼️

uh

15:18

hm

yeah i see

i think it needs to be patched

5.2 does have a decent chance of having a fully working extended kernel someday, but 5.1? I dont see it

meanwhile vista could get 8.x, hell even 10 functions ported over

win5270

XP's kernel is just too different from Vista and newer for it to be feasible

maybe we could replace that with linux support?

win5270

5.2 does have a decent chance of having a fully working extended kernel someday, but 5.1? I dont see it

what is 5.2 exactly?

Linux is even more different

windows server 2003?

yes

skip

what is 5.2 exactly?

nt ver

skip

what is 5.2 exactly?

Server 2003 and XP x64

dragogos

nt ver

i know

win5270

Server 2003 and XP x64

oh so only x64

The NT 5.2 kernel was adopted in the development of Windows Vista

Michael

@win32 i re-did my kernel but it still crashes with that same access violation error

You should just call loadlibraryexw/getprocaddress directly in your function. i don't think whatever way that is going to work very well

is 32-bit server 2003 also nt 5.2?

win5270

The NT 5.2 kernel was adopted in the development of Windows Vista

5.2 RC SP1* (edited)

skip

is 32-bit server 2003 also nt 5.2?

yes

skip

oh so only x64

Server 2003 x86 & x64, but the only version of XP that uses the 5.2 kernel is the Professional x64 Edition for amd64 CPUs

Scamdisk

yes

then just backport win7 functions to that trol

if anyone

win5270

Server 2003 x86 & x64, but the only version of XP that uses the 5.2 kernel is the Professional x64 Edition for amd64 CPUs

and also the second ia-64 version, but does ia-64 even count

win5270

Server 2003 x86 & x64, but the only version of XP that uses the 5.2 kernel is the Professional x64 Edition for amd64 CPUs

and the IA64 one too

15:21

but then that's just server 2003 without server stuff

the first IA-64 XP was actually 5.1

dragogos

if anyone

manages to backport to 5.2 in SOURCE, please send me the source files

yeah which i didnt even know existed until i watched that pinball video

Michael

anyone know if winlogon needs to be patched to load a custom kernel32.dll?

you don't need to patch anything on xp.

IA64 6.0 exists

i knew there were 2 ia-64 xps before then

probably 6.1 too

6.1 IA-64 does exist

ImSwordQueen

IA64 6.0 exists

6.1 is like windows 7

I knew there was one ia64 XP that was 5.1 based but didnt know about the 5.2 one

the ia-64 version of Server 2008 R2

like windows server 08 r2 ia64 exists

yeah, that thing is a joke

15:22

microsoft stripped it bare

itanium was a failure from what i heard

win5270

yeah, that thing is a joke

what thing?

then killed the entire ia-64 arch off with NT 6.2

so uh

dragogos

what thing?

server 2008 r2 ia

win5270

server 2008 r2 ia

ohhh

replacing it's remainings with arm32 stuff (edited)

nvm

win5270

server 2008 r2 ia

it only had a web server i think lol

Scamdisk

then killed the entire ia-64 arch off with NT 6.2

it was pretty much dead with 6.0 and 6.1

15:23

like. it had nothing (edited)

15:23

the IA64 branch got lucky to even get explorer

though, super early builds of ia64 whistler are the closest thing to Windows 2000 x64 we'll ever see

mfw there's one IA-64 build of client vista

Scamdisk

replacing it's remainings with arm32 stuff (edited)

i mean ms made a windows 8 beta arm32

that looks so cool tho

of course

15:23

8 shipped in arm32 too

Windows RT is just a SKU

i just really want a phone that runs windows

15:24

even if arm

get a 950xl

imagine all the cool stuff you could have with windows on the go

well, arm windows doesnt have all the support you think it does

15:25

x86 windows though

(i saw gus doing stuff with the surface duo 1. so windows soon maybe?)

funny how MS felt the need to port the start menu from windows 10 9841 to RT 8.1 w/ update 3 but they never ported it to Windows 8.1 which would have benefited way more from it

arialgirl

well, arm windows doesnt have all the support you think it does

didn't it have x86 emulation

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

proof: random Windows 10 build

win5270

funny how MS felt the need to port the start menu from windows 10 9841 to RT 8.1 w/ update 3 but they never ported it to Windows 8.1 which would have benefited way more from it

because windows 8.1 will have the upgrade to 10

that's like x64

meanwhile RT was stuck on 8.1

meanwhile RT in 10 was a leftover

skip

didn't it have x86 emulation

iirc it wasnt all that good

15:26

might be better nowadays

ah

ImSwordQueen

because windows 8.1 will have the upgrade to 10

yeah but the start screen is better than that menu for tablets, where RT would be used

that got nuked in 1703

the only build of 10 in arm32 is timebombed as well

arialgirl

might be better nowadays

i think mutahar did a vid on running win10 arm in a virtual machine on an m1 mac

win5270

yeah but the start screen is better than that menu for tablets, where RT would be used

microsoft wanting money

you could offline cook it tho

i have several .xap's that have a arm only exe

15:26

maybe you could try or smth

skip

i think mutahar did a vid on running win10 arm in a virtual machine on an m1 mac

and that had x86 emulation im pretty sure

15:26

even in a vm it ran games quite well

15:27

though my mind could be deceiving me and i could be talking complete gibberish

inb4 because qemu

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

hm

@Scamdisk you have a arm vm right?

random skus

the Door guy

@Scamdisk you have a arm vm right?

no

15:28

the only time i trully got to fuck around with arm shit was 10586.1000 serverweb arm64

funny

Scamdisk

the only time i trully got to fuck around with arm shit was 10586.1000 serverweb arm64

do you still have that

no

skip

vista extended kernel development boosted by 600%

Eh

Scamdisk

no

damn

Extended kernel development = reduced to neutrons

win32 said he would immediatly halt kernel dev if src leaked

is it possible to turn a x64 uwp exe into a standard exe?

15:30

via removing some functions

Scamdisk

win32 said he would immediatly halt kernel dev if src leaked

but hey what are the chances of another leak

actually nah, any NT6src leak (except prereset LH) would be a catastrophe

skip

but hey what are the chances of another leak

Not impossible, that's enough for concern

idk of any NT6src circulating around

15:31

but i do know Windows 10 1511 src is circulating in private circles

Scamdisk

idk of any NT6src circulating around

probably a 10 one was

Betajyst4094

Not impossible, that's enough for concern

possible? yes likely? no

Scamdisk

but i do know Windows 10 1511 src is circulating in private circles

wait what

i won't give you anymore info

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

the betaarchive incident trol

totally not suspicious

skip

possible? yes likely? no

As long as it isn't 0

Scamdisk

actually nah, any NT6src leak (except prereset LH) would be a catastrophe

yeah, because 7/8/10/11 still use the vista kernel.. so if vista leaks.. we'd be fucked

skip

totally not suspicious

totally

15:32

oh i bet it's like the shared source

ImSwordQueen

the betaarchive incident trol

just how many more bad things can i hear about that site

iirc it's said to be the real src or some shit, but meh idk

15:33

all i heard was it circulating in private circles

win5270

yeah, because 7/8/10/11 still use the vista kernel.. so if vista leaks.. we'd be fucked

i'd literally move over to linux

probably shared source

15:33

i have windows 10 shared source anyway

prereset lh src leak, that's welcome

15:34

even if it's spaghetti code

the Door guy

is it possible to turn a x64 uwp exe into a standard exe?

i dont think its possible (talking to reply)

but post reset doom

the Door guy

i dont think its possible (talking to reply)

basically no

no

Scamdisk

but post reset doom

unless its build 5000/5001

unless you're maybe really high

since that's just server 2003

15:34

with no mods basically

if build 4093 source leaks

15:34

that would be

Kinda curious to observe ms' actions over a hypothetical situation of vista leak (edited)

great

there's some internal changes in those iirc

15:35

if the leak happens to be prereset, they won't do much

brb gonna restart windows to see if i get transparency back

but if it's 6000src

15:35

hell will break loose

then it's time to move onto linux

yeah

15:35

way too many things are based on vista

15:35

that cant happen

15:35

or we're doomed

even a random build of a OS newer than vista's src leaking would be doomsday

didn't they rewrite the kernel in windows 7?

no

15:36

the kernel hasnt been rewritten since vista

ok

they did merge some shit around

15:36

but no big rewrite

there we go my transparency is back

15:36

i have no clue why windows does this

until last year, as iirc they started working on a rust rewrite of the kernel

but sometimes the fluent ui just doesnt kick in

for use on a Windows 10X-like OS

so x86-64 windows will still use the vista kernel

15:37

yeah, i dont see that changing anytime soon either

15:38

vista's kernel is kinda futureproof

well only non-WCOS windows (Server/Embedded shit) will use the vista kernel

15:38

wcos will use the one written in rust

15:38

unless they will use the rust one on everything

Scamdisk

until last year, as iirc they started working on a rust rewrite of the kernel

that is just a recipe for disaster

15:39

Scamdisk

unless they will use the rust one on everything

hope not

that sounds like disaster alright

otherwise vista's extended kernel development will come to a halt once shit starts dropping vista-based OSes

15:40

but either way that'll be a long time from now so i'm not worried about it

15:40

the vista kernel isnt going anywhere for a while

also wcos on consumer desktop was always a disaster

15:40

Polaris, 10X

15:40

both cancelled

i dont remember what polaris was

same idea as 10X iirc

windows' biggest advantage is compatibility, which means it makes sense to stick with the nt6 kernel

yeah exactly

but that has the drawback of inconsistencies

15:41

which people will bitch about till end of time

they already got enough backlash from rewriting the kernel with vista and breaking a lot of legacy shit

it's essentially why all other non-win32 based windows platforms flopped

15:42

windows phone, 10x, you name it

Windows RT was full Windows

15:42

except it had a stupid restriction

skip

windows phone, 10x, you name it

no compatibility, very small userbase, no one was gonna make apps for them

it would had succeeded if it wasn't for the stupid restriction of it only running ms signed win32 apps

yeah

Windows phone is still nt and not core os

Scamdisk

but that has the drawback of inconsistencies

ui inconsistency?

yes

that was hardly an issue until windows 8

i know a few people who bitch about it quite a lot

before that it was just icons here and there mostly

15:44

but then 10 came along and... yeah

it's hardly a issue in 8 too

15:44

despite the 7 icons in desktop

win5270

that was hardly an issue until windows 8

what about the massive consistency gap between the metro start menu and the win32 components

15:44

i mean

and flat icons in metro

they're fundamentally different

win5270

but then 10 came along and... yeah

they've sorta fixed it by now

skip

what about the massive consistency gap between the metro start menu and the win32 components

no like i meant windows 8 introduced bigger issues

the "deep" parts of it are still mostly untouched

windows 7 and older were quite consistent

windows 7 is basically perfect in terms of consistency

15:45

only like the device manager is the old one

vista too

15:45

just a few server 2003 icons leftover

my only gripe with consistency in win10 is the start menu

XP had a lot of 2000 icons leftover however

skip

my only gripe with consistency in win10 is the start menu

despite the dark mode it is still blindingly white

15:46

and the settings are scattered across two apps

XP is where inconsistencies in windows trully started

that's what xpize and vize are for lol

sure it was a problem on older versions but they blended in so well it wasnt a issue

https://archive.org/details/operatingsystemcds hmm, what to test?

early mac os x troll

what is the best way to emulate os x on windows?

qemu

15:48

for ppc ones

thought qemu on windows is bad?

and vmware for intel ones

arialgirl

https://archive.org/details/operatingsystemcds hmm, what to test?

seems legit lol

ah yes, shitty mod

Scamdisk

and vmware for intel ones

dont you need to patch it in a way?

yes

god they used the win2k welcome

did they really copy the stupid 2000 welcome thing in and make it say windows 9

15:49

lmao

omg

15:49

they did

Scamdisk

yes

tell me about it

https://archive.org/details/windows_9

Windows 9 : Microsoft : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Inte...

Windows 9 was based on Windows 9 Technical Preview build 9834Updates and changes:Update 1 (09.08.2021)What was changed: A 32-bit version has been...

it's literally

15:50

an edit of win10 tp

15:50

https://github.com/paolo-projects/unlocker https://github.com/sakurayz/efi-unlocker (for client 10.5 and 10.6)

GitHub - paolo-projects/unlocker: VMware Workstation macOS

VMware Workstation macOS . Contribute to paolo-projects/unlocker development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub - sakurayz/efi-unlocker: VMware EFI macOS

VMware EFI macOS. Contribute to sakurayz/efi-unlocker development by creating an account on GitHub.

15:51

10.4 is a clusterfuck to get working iirc

looks nice

15:51

i could probably try to get mavericks running

the intel 10.4 that is

15:52

ppc 10.4 is qemu teritory

15:52

you either use server or modify one of the recovery disks to accept VMware7,1 during install (edited)

15:53

but not just that

15:53

you gotta spoof some core 2 duo

15:54

with this junkfest

message.txt

5.14 KB

jeez

in the vmx file

most of this shit is just xp

Scamdisk

in the vmx file

how tf do people even figure this out

15:54

like the 0's and 1's?

im not interested in xp, ive used it a million times for a million years

lot of beer

i found this shit on macrumors

https://archive.org/details/Win8-Project8400 this is a more based mod trol

Windows 8 "Project 8400" : ImSwordKing : Free Download, Borrow, and...

This is what windows 8 RTM was going to be if microsoft kept Aero effects and windows 8 Release preview style.this mod is based on Windows 8 Professional Build...

i tried that on vmware. very nice, but it was a little broken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngJ9q9wHcS0 for modifying client intel tiger recovery disk stuff for specific mac models to work with others and vmware

The 8-Bit Guy

How to Modify an OS X install disc to work on other computers.

win5270

i tried that on vmware. very nice, but it was a little broken

the aero was glitchy but that was probably just vmware being stupid

vmware 12 being an ass

tiger is something else and installing vmtools won't work because tiger isn't supported officially by vmware anyway

you should use tools from 15.x.x

https://archive.org/details/windows-10-wayne-nathaniel-2005-lite-console-edition/Winver%20and%20Calc%20open.jpg this is so fucking weird im gonna actually vm it

Windows 10 Wayne Nathaniel 2005 Lite Console Edition : Wayne Nathan...

This Things. Was Based on Windows 10 Wayne Nathaniel 2005 Gold Edition Ver 2022. Things are Pretty Looks Similar But It has A Lot of Removed Features. Such as...

i also had to run installers as admin to get programs to install, or else it would error out

arialgirl

https://archive.org/details/windows-10-wayne-nathaniel-2005-lite-console-edition/Winver%20and%20Calc%20open.jpg this is so fucking weird im gonna actually vm it

oh god

This guy got 21h2 and uh

16:06

Yeah

all i can say is.. why lol

i bet it's just

16:07

server core

It even had the classic theme

with a branding change

16:07

aerolite completly removed

im trying this rn

16:08

hope the stupid key works

It’s windows 2000 pro, I got a universal key if it doesn’t (edited)

Lol

a the xp screensaver

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

omg the windows xp screensaver

What an advancement

16:10

ah yes. removed bloatware to include more bloatware

16:10

and eye cancer

16:10

Damn I dont know how to use it at home

win5270

im trying this rn

is that firefox quantum with glassmyfox

imagine if the ssd optimizations kills ssds instead

I forgor how

skip

is that firefox quantum with glassmyfox

yes

how

god is dead

16:12

this guy modified basebrd so killing activation

16:12

but not the name

16:12

skip

how

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?p=70#p70

Aero CSS Themes for Firefox

The themes I share here are creaed for my own personal use and enjoyment. If you like what you see, feel free to help yourself to any of the themes shared! :smi

That’s the rtm version of windows 10, tf is he doing calling it the 2022 version

this is what i use

arialgirl

That’s the rtm version of windows 10, tf is he doing calling it the 2022 version

he made it in 2021 as well

so its not glassmyfox

16:13

its just a custom css theme

also i hope the creator isn't 16

16:13

because holy fuck

16:14

such improvements

tartan calendar my beloved

the "gold" version

16:14

aka the poor people's 7

Well I’m gonna see for myself how fucked the “console” edition is

16:17

He also created a windows 10 gold, somehow managing to make win10 look uglier

trying alphabetas now

https://archive.org/details/windows-8.1-classic-edition

Windows 8.1 Classic Edition : Wayne Nathaniel 2005 : Free Download,...

As of You heard. Windows 8 is Hated by Many. Because of it's Start button Removal, Full screen Start menu and Forcing users to use the Full screen Tablet UI....

16:18

nightmares

16:20

oh god... where have i seen this shit before?

16:20

@win5270

lmao

16:20

why

ImSwordQueen

https://archive.org/details/windows-8.1-classic-edition

Why

try and install extkern on it

arialgirl

try and install extkern on it

it'll probably tear the whole thing up lol

16:26

yay the product key worked

win5270

Click to see attachment 🖼️

This looks like something out of a fever dream

it doesnt use the bootscreen advertised tho

16:29

oh boy

16:29

here we go

arialgirl

oh god... where have i seen this shit before?

that's the "classic" logonUI without dwm

16:29

if dwm is absent

arialgirl

Click to see attachment 🖼️

whats this

arialgirl

oh god... where have i seen this shit before?

consolelogon

someone's shitty mod of win10

dragogos

consolelogon

it's used in hyper-v os dingus

16:33

and i think in some versions of windows server core?

16:33

it could be also enabled in the registry

16:34

in windows 10

it's a reference to this windows 10 to 7 mod which had the exact same thing

16:34

very "welcoming"

anyway whats the link to this mod

windows server core since 2016 used consolelogin anyway

16:35

like all of it

i wanna explore this masterpiece of shit

https://archive.org/download/windows-10-wayne-nathaniel-2005-gold-edition-ver-2022-enterprise-variant/Windows%2010%20Wayne%20Nathaniel%202005%20Gold%20Edition%20Ver%202022%20Enterprise%20Variant.iso

16:37

here

trying to get vmware tools on here rn

16:37

i got vmware tools working with the 4.0.0 iso and reinstalling installer 3.1

16:47

looks like a stripped down win2k

@win32 i did what you said and my kernel still doesnt work

16:50

same exact access violation crash still

16:51

i think its something to do with winload or something and not the kernel itself

16:52

i googled around and apparently winload was updated some time recently for windows 7

@win5270 my guess as to why the bootscreen didnt work is because we installed win2k with 2 cores lol

im gonna try to get an old winload from an old windows 7 iso and then patch that accordingly

that causes the MP ntoskrnl and hal to be copied

16:52

which are likely not modified

ah yeah makes sense

16:53

can you send me the link for the tools iso you used

16:53

i aint having luck

Michael

i think its something to do with winload or something and not the kernel itself

I don't think so. winload does not check the integrity of kernel32/kernelbase.

win32

I don't think so. winload does not check the integrity of kernel32/kernelbase.

well then how come i get this same exact access violation and stack trace with kernelbase wrapper as well as various patched versions

win5270

can you send me the link for the tools iso you used

ill send you the file on tele

17:00

you should have it now. first thing youll want to do is go into the disc's directory and run instmsiw, because you have to reinstall windows installer

Michael

im gonna try to get an old winload from an old windows 7 iso and then patch that accordingly

nope, no dice

despite all the hacking away, this shit takes up more space than revios does

Michael

well then how come i get this same exact access violation and stack trace with kernelbase wrapper as well as various patched versions

I still don't know how that could happen. Indeed, no one has attempted an extension for the kernel32/kernelbase split era, and thus we are not aware of any specific issues that introduces. There were so many things that popped up in the Vista extended kernel development that seemed quite weird and really shaped the methods and prospects for the project. I can't imagine what Windows 7 has in store for you.

arialgirl

despite all the hacking away, this shit takes up more space than revios does

jesus wtf is that

win32

I still don't know how that could happen. Indeed, no one has attempted an extension for the kernel32/kernelbase split era, and thus we are not aware of any specific issues that introduces. There were so many things that popped up in the Vista extended kernel development that seemed quite weird and really shaped the methods and prospects for the project. I can't imagine what Windows 7 has in store for you.

rip

thats what it is

17:08

anyway, just use revios or ltsc if you want a lighter and better win10

ltsb 2016 is pretty good

17:09

most software runs just fine on it

arialgirl

despite all the hacking away, this shit takes up more space than revios does

that's the same space size as vanilla windows 10

Michael

rip

The biggest one was doing things the way bwc did on x86 and I did on x64, in my WOW64 files. Then I tried running programs and every import call would fail. No remedy could be found, aside from making a franken hybrid ntdll/kernel32 with no imports. But it's very hard to replicate all kinds of massive functions in a special file.

the problem with win10 1607 is certain newer gpus not working (even though win7 or 8 work), nvidia and amd block 10 1607 on their gpu drivers. of course, i doubt anyone here has anything newer than pascal (especially in the current market)

me who mains a literal 9800 gt in my desktop

17:12

i do have a 1660ti laptop but i dont use it for much

yeah that gpu wouldnt work in 1607 without a modified driver - even the 7/8.1 driver block it for some reason

17:12

it installs but throws a code 43

arialgirl

yeah that gpu wouldnt work in 1607 without a modified driver - even the 7/8.1 driver block it for some reason

the 1660ti?

yes

i have currently vanilla win10 on this laptop

arialgirl

the problem with win10 1607 is certain newer gpus not working (even though win7 or 8 work), nvidia and amd block 10 1607 on their gpu drivers. of course, i doubt anyone here has anything newer than pascal (especially in the current market)

even 8.0?

planning to install iot ltsc though

no, win8 would work

skip

planning to install iot ltsc though

probably once i get more storage on it

1809 ltsc is unaffected by this. im guessing this is due to the new dch driver model that came out in 1709 (edited)

i finally upgraded my hp g62 to an ssd so windows 10/11 wouldn't lag on it

also, i dont think this affects any other hw device apart from gpus

so i have more storage to do things

as the DCH model is only for those

honestly that sounds not so happy to have windows 10 on it

17:14

how much ram does it have?

17:14

also what cpu

https://archive.org/details/revi-os-1709-u-4.0-x-64

Revi OS 1709 U 4.0 X 64 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : In...

ReviOSrevi-os-1709-u-4.0-x-64

17:18

this is revios 1709, thats also a good option

17:18

1709 is the first build with dch support, so itll work properly with newer gpus

17:19

@docR you may want to consider it for your gaming os(tm) too, since i believe its lighter than 10 ltsc, and can also be customized the same

17:21

(this isnt like the newer releases which stick their nose up at mods)

much better

arialgirl

despite all the hacking away, this shit takes up more space than revios does

burn it

arialgirl

@docR you may want to consider it for your gaming os(tm) too, since i believe its lighter than 10 ltsc, and can also be customized the same

hmmmmmm. you know, thats a thought

I use

18:02

It's very fast to my surprise

18:02

No weird ass memory leaks and services

@docR same theme on revios 1709

18:04

also i found a patched winaero for it

i'm downloading it now

18:04

can you share?

yes

wait? patched? does winaero cockblock it?

18:05

we're in the HAL rn

patched as in no watermark

what could possibly go wrong in using an arch install script to install arch32 trol

(edited)

they seem to be having some wild issues with package signing as pacman is literally broken

18:36

lmao

does anyone have a windows vista product key?

you can find them online

none of them work

hmm I remember I got a key to work

19:59

none of them work....

Deformisani SAS

does anyone have a windows vista product key?

no

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

wait

-warn @Deleted User please, don't share files to bypass activation

BokeeXD#9210 has been warned.

thats against discord tos

oh

20:10

sorry

its okay

again, this is so our server doesnt get nuked

ye

believe me, we all use.... things like this too. but that goes against discord tos to share this stuff

discord TOS is stupid

we have too much to lose y'know?

ok

Oh no I'm going to get banned

Betajyst4094

Oh no I'm going to get banned

https://media.tenor.co/videos/15233aefefdb3eab50e307855cb10b4a/mp4

20:19

ahhhhh

20:19

its not a gif

i made a post on msfn about my windows 7 kernel patching issues to see if some of the more experienced guys there might know whats going on

ok

Deleted User

ok

RealTek AC97 Audio

my motherboard has via hd audio

Michael

RealTek AC97 Audio

RealKek

docR

-warn @Deleted User please, don't share files to bypass activation

just say. somehow this makes windows not to ask activation trol

Dyno

Click to see attachment 🖼️

bruh

Michael

i made a post on msfn about my windows 7 kernel patching issues to see if some of the more experienced guys there might know whats going on

I just tried a very simple change to a win7 kernelbase. The VM just shuts down without even bugchecking.

21:50

This would not be a problem on Vista. And I have modified windows 7's hal already. It booted, unlike this usermode thingy. (edited)

21:52

But not all possibilities are exhausted. I haven't fixed the PE checksum on kernelbase, and a couple of things in the header may be wrong now that the file size has changed.

win32 fucked up windows 7

win32

But not all possibilities are exhausted. I haven't fixed the PE checksum on kernelbase, and a couple of things in the header may be wrong now that the file size has changed.

i already tried to set the pe checksum with no luck

22:00

let me know if you figure it out please

22:00

:)

A perfect header and a perfect checksum is...

22:16

not good.

22:16

I think we need to patch ci.dll too.

win32

I think we need to patch ci.dll too.

whats ci.dll?

code integrity. on vista it needs to be patched for modifying ntdll and win32k, but not anything else

win32

code integrity. on vista it needs to be patched for modifying ntdll and win32k, but not anything else

what do i need to patch in it?

22:17

is it something simple like with winload

the same kind of thing as in winload, but like 90 times

i only have to do it once so ill go ahead and do it

22:17

whats the hex value im looking for

0xc0000428

win32

0xc0000428

is it only the one in system32?

22:18

or are there others

yes

just system32?

yes

kk

22:18

and just change 0xc0000428 to 0x0

yes

kk

win32

yes

just curious, what does the 0xc0000428 represent?

an NTSTATUS code for an invalid digital signature

oh ok

22:20

that makes sense

22:20

cool

22:23

@win32 what about this, should i patch these too? mov [rsp+0B8h+var_88], 0C0000428h

yes

kk

when modifying ntdll, it does trigger CI and has a bugcheck with that code just like in vista. but kernelbase doesn't even do that

win32

when modifying ntdll, it does trigger CI and has a bugcheck with that code just like in vista. but kernelbase doesn't even do that

mine gives me a bugcheck (edited)

22:25

on boot

22:25

with an access violation error

22:26

i sent the windbg log here before (edited)

22:30

ok im done patching ci.dll

22:30

time ot test

22:36

@win32 i got this error:

set the pe checksum on ci.dll

win32

set the pe checksum on ci.dll

oh i thought i did but i forgot to hit save troll

22:40

no dice @win32

22:41

same exact access violation crash on SetSystemPowerState

@Deleted User is that a civic ek9 in your pfp?

Michael

same exact access violation crash on SetSystemPowerState

that screams "red herring" but i'd like to see that ntoskrnl anyway

win32

that screams "red herring" but i'd like to see that ntoskrnl anyway

what do you mean by that?

to see what happens in that part of the function, even though I don't see how that ties into the initialization of a win32 subsystem component

win32

to see what happens in that part of the function, even though I don't see how that ties into the initialization of a win32 subsystem component

what i meant was, what do you mean by "red herring"

22:52

i dont know that metaphor lol

Like a false clue that doesn't bring you any further to finding the source of the problem.

ah