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Between 30/12/2021 23:00 and 31/01/2022 23:00
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Deleted User 31/12/2021 08:18
...
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ImSwordQueen 31/12/2021 19:45
@Scamdisk did you click on the second link
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no
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ImSwordQueen 31/12/2021 19:45
tf there is an another romanian
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that got tricked into watching a thiojoke video
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There's two of them (online)
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ImSwordQueen 31/12/2021 21:43
lies
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the verge moment
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 31/12/2021 22:14
sussy 5.1
@ImSwordQueen "all rights"
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ImSwordQueen 31/12/2021 22:15
get original
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 31/12/2021 22:16
the "all rights" snack
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now available
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ImSwordQueen 01/01/2022 14:33
No way. Mintel returned
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😳 😳 😳
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4/9 done
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💀
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6/9 done
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ImSwordQueen 01/01/2022 18:01
you should fix the size of starter lmao
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more like fix the size of the other skus
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ImSwordQueen
you should fix the size of starter lmao
kinda cant do that without making it a sku with no upgrade targets
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ImSwordQueen 01/01/2022 18:03
oh.
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and bitch ass 8.1 dism cleaned shit up when i did the funny /set-edition command
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for the other skus i mean
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ImSwordQueen 01/01/2022 18:04
so you are doing it manually
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oh nvm
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prerelease is gonna be on the same size as starter if i add the original prerelease image so
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if i do a /set-edition from starter using 8.1 dism its gonna be way smaller
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too lazy to redo shit with the hacky way that doesnt clean shit up
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especially when the dism append-image command takes forever
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ImSwordQueen 01/01/2022 22:31
waiting for this to finish
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hidden palace admin be doing @ everyone every 5 seconds and me forgetting to mute everytime: oh
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Betajyst4094 02/01/2022 06:41
They finally done it
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@#RadMorning what was that app you used to hack Windows window styles of applications?
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Either resource hacker, some mss style editor or something else.
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no, it was an utility that would change the styles of running applications/windows
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kind of like Spy++, but it could change, not only view
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Oh so doesn't enable you to change it, but enforce certain changes; then my bad, no idea on what it is. (edited)
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RaduTek HD Audio BOT 02/01/2022 12:13
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this seems to be it
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Oh? nice.
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 12:34
WinExp by NirSoft
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... I'm late
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im writing a book but its really really long
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anyone gonna buy it when its done in 2030?
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Sure lol
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I've attempted to write a book before.... That didn't get very far
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But I shall return to it one day, the story's never left me
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I wrote a ~3000 word spec for an application in one day.
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Will it ever be written, remains to be seen.
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Deleted User 02/01/2022 18:46
i wrote fanfiction flush
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never published and never will be
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truth be told, i probably would succeed at it yet i would never publish shit like that for.. reasons
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Is it SFW or horny fanfic?
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Deleted User 02/01/2022 18:55
???????????????????
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is that a question to ask
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what do you think lol
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still, i would never publish any fanfiction even if it weren't romance
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cringe
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Pfffffffft
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Deleted User 02/01/2022 19:00
what
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Betajyst4094 02/01/2022 19:32
Can't stop my ww2 fan fic
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:33
rip #macos. lasted 1 second
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#apple
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:33
there was an another #macos lol
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we do a little trolling
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trol
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:34
btw. lounge is too active
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rename it to general
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and general to lounge
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we can't have lounge too active
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ok bringing back general-3 under the name of offtopic
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/s
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we already have general 3 (edited)
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#deleted-channel
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oh yeah forgor about that
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or renaming #lounge to #offtopic
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considering how inactive it is
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let's move #windows-7 and rename it to #gernel-4
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no
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:35
or rename #general into general
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and viceversa
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not again
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:36
who renamed #windows-7 to #windows-7
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again
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renaming general to macos /s
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:37
only ogs remember this as general
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and general as general-2
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libraries
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just checked and this channel actually is the original general
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ryan's mass switching from a while ago confused me
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I forgor 💀 which was which
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i want to rename all channels to #lounge-n
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Ximonite
just checked and this channel actually is the original general
ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:41
xim how the fuck did you not notice
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bruh how was I supposed to know
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without checking
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:42
by the pinned messages
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bruh I forgot which is which
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blame @docR
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:42
this was the og general
win32 pinned a message to this channel. 02/01/2022 19:43
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:43
and #lounge is lounge
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xim
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can you do the favour
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and switch them for the last time?
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done
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:44
cool
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tomfoolery is gone
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anyone caught switching them again will be sent to the brig
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:45
does doc have perms to change channel names?
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:46
Since when is docR not an admin?
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:46
since RP
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Betajyst4094 02/01/2022 19:46
#makedocumanadminagain
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#no
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trol
Ximonite pinned a message to this channel. 02/01/2022 19:46
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Betajyst4094 02/01/2022 19:46
#whyisthat
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:47
It actually depends on Doc if he wants to stay a librarian
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which he probably will
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we need to send someone to the brig for this
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since americanman is not here
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we need someone else to brazil
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ImSwordQueen
tomfoolery is gone
For once we agree
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I'd prefer the 7 channel have its name back too, if I'm going to be honest
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:48
^
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even you?
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librarian
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docR
I'd prefer the 7 channel have its name back too, if I'm going to be honest
#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:48
I agree too - "Guys, I'm running the Libraries OS"
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Afraid so
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which one tho
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Libraries role is funny tho kekk
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But channel may confuse newcomers
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theres 2 oses known to have them
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:49
MacOS Libraries
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#RadMorning
I agree too - "Guys, I'm running the Libraries OS"
Deleted User 02/01/2022 19:49
nice
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:49
and Windows Libraries
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Deleted User 02/01/2022 19:50
i have a libraries os on my laptoo
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laptop**
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:50
I don't
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technically every version after 7 have libraries still
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just disabled on 8.1 and later
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:56
but they're hidden/disabled
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8.0 has them enabled still
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:56
really?
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:56
i wonder why 8.1 had disabled them
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probably because nobody used them
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:56
I never noticed
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maybe because I've never used Windows 8.0 for daily use
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i wonder why 8.1 changed computer to this pc
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:57
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I never noticed...
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also yeah, 'Computer' is present in 8.0
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 19:58
onedrive is the new libraries for me lol
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Onedrive is more annoying
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:58
meanwhile in 8.1
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Scamdisk
Onedrive is more annoying
#RadMorning 02/01/2022 19:58
yeah
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thats by default
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But MS never removed em
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Just disabled them
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ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 20:00
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wtf
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name every channel #general
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 20:26
then we'll all be confused in general
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i'm gonna explode
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ImSwordQueen
probably because nobody used them
Most people don't even know what they are
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can we get that hyper quality trollface here
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forgot the name of the emoji but it's not here
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ximonsleep
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why do we have an emoji of Ximonite sleeping
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Sticker
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ximonshoe
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ximonsleep
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what next
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Betajyst4094 02/01/2022 20:38
winvista
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docR
Most people don't even know what they are
ImSwordQueen 02/01/2022 20:39
it was a confusing way that was frankly useless
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because the start menu of 7 still used the non libraries version of the account folders
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ImSwordQueen
and general as general-2
Deleted User 02/01/2022 21:12
valvenewsMega
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Vruh 2
ximonsleep
Deleted User 02/01/2022 21:13
lolwhat
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Vruh 2
why do we have an emoji of Ximonite sleeping
lets not
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I took that pic, I added it to wls as an emoji, I’m the person in the pic, and I have no problem with it (edited)
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I also use it occasionally so don’t remove it 👀
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Deleted User 02/01/2022 23:15
bru why
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why would you take a pic of yourself sleeping and make it an emoji
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cause there are other emojis of me
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4kmonite
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Sticker
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Deleted User 02/01/2022 23:17
lol
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still not a reason but sure (edited)
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He's shaneless that's why
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the Door guy 02/01/2022 23:41
my region had only shut off analog tv last month
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they're literally begging for you to get dvb t2
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 23:42
It's about time tbh
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the Door guy 02/01/2022 23:44
when did they disable analog in serb?
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 23:45
I don't think they did entirely, but basically 95% of Serbs have moved to digital television
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the Door guy 02/01/2022 23:47
Im guessing all serb channels in analog are begging for you to get digital or get dvb t2
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just like kazakhstan
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 23:47
I think most of the analogue channels available are pirate channels anyway
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the Door guy 02/01/2022 23:51
Btw my cable tv signal is vhs quality instead of HD
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why is that
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 23:53
1. It could be that the set-top box that you have isn't connected to the TV through HDMI
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2. It could be that the TV hasn't been configured to show a sharp image - which was the case with my TV
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the Door guy 02/01/2022 23:54
I dont have a settop box
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Literally just a coaxial cable around my home (edited)
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 23:55
In that case, the second option I said is plausible
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if that isn't the case, contact your TV provider
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the Door guy 02/01/2022 23:56
Also i think my cable signal is a just a stream as i saw a channel list of what looks to be a cable box (edited)
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 23:57
If it's something related to cable, can't help ya
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as for several years now I've had satellite TV
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the Door guy 02/01/2022 23:58
Also, all channels seem to be cropped in some way
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90% i think its the cable signal
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#RadMorning 02/01/2022 23:59
that could be down to the TV's config
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the Door guy 02/01/2022 23:59
As when i autoscanned channels again it was a bit zoomed out
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Before that ot was zoomed in
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So that really has to do with cable provider
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Changing settings in the tv config does nothing (edited)
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 00:00
It's probably down to the cable provider
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the Door guy
Im guessing all serb channels in analog are begging for you to get digital or get dvb t2
DeRosenberg 03/01/2022 00:11
Most channels in like the US did that practice I think
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the Door guy
Literally just a coaxial cable around my home (edited)
I think you are on analog cable.
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we've had digital here for a good fucking while
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so i never really noticed the death of analog around here
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i hate cast.lib
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a lot
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i fucking loathe cast.lib
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DeRosenberg
Most channels in like the US did that practice I think
Yes, there were a lot of PSAs. Some stations even ran "tests" that would confirm whether you were viewing digital or analog.
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And people in Canada were certainly confused by the US conversion date. I remember it getting bumped down from February 17 and all.
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2>NMAKE : U1073: don't know how to make 'obj\i386\csapi3t1.dll' 3>NMAKE : U1073: don't know how to make 'obj\i386\cast.lib' if only i knew why the fuck aren't these 2 things getting built
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they're definitely not lacking dependencies as i've bz'd the entire source at least 3 or 4 times by now
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they just don't want to exist
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scamdisk got the same 2 errors at one point
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compiling 2k3 was supposed to be easier than when i last did it back in september 2020
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win32
And people in Canada were certainly confused by the US conversion date. I remember it getting bumped down from February 17 and all.
It was around the same time, but they switched out fast that only indivdually-run stations were left out by a month or so.
compiling 2k3 was supposed to be easier than when i last did it back in september 2020
The repackaged one?
(edited)
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the Door guy 03/01/2022 00:47
I think you are on analog cable.
@win32 i still see channels
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MassClaw
It was around the same time, but they switched out fast that only indivdually-run stations were left out by a month or so.
compiling 2k3 was supposed to be easier than when i last did it back in september 2020
The repackaged one?
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Not exactly: US was June 2009 while Canada was August 2011. Some full power rural stations continue to broadcast analog in Canada.
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Oh then that's expected becuase the nation is sparsely populated. Discounting the american line of course. It wouldnt' be surprising if much of it fell on quebec and the others. (edited)
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the Door guy
I think you are on analog cable.
@win32 i still see channels
Cable is generally exempt from requirements for OTA conversion. There was still analog cable here until 2018.
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MassClaw
Oh then that's expected becuase the nation is sparsely populated. Discounting the american line of course. It wouldnt' be surprising if much of it fell on quebec and the others. (edited)
Yes, the CBC had a vast translator network that no American station could match. In NL they had 88 of them. Too many to convert to digital, so they are all gone.
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Even Saskatoon and London lost their CBC transmitters.
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Ouch, well it's doomed for obscurity if it didn't adapt ahead of the curve.
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this file
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this file
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if a single fucking character gets in there
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i will explode
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Misfortune finds a victim no matter what.
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boy did i get a character
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i got multiple
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wiped the fucking source tree outta my hard drive
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starting out fresh
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but it's definitely gonna get the same fucking errors because i know how it is
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You found your way there soon enough.
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docR
He's shaneless that's why
Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 05:42
See what you did
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 09:09
im gonna install vmware and make a virtual machine. (atleast i have a windows xp product key
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i recommend this site for vmware 10
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Just get it from here: https://github.com/201853910/VMwareWorkstation , not only you actually download it directly without any interference, it's from the vmware site itself so no sketchy middle liners.
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 09:14
good morning
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Greetings.
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MassClaw
Just get it from here: https://github.com/201853910/VMwareWorkstation , not only you actually download it directly without any interference, it's from the vmware site itself so no sketchy middle liners.
#RadMorning 03/01/2022 09:14
Yep!
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 09:20
greetings
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Welcome.
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 09:26
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still having my action center fully transparent for a bit when i open it :)
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 09:26
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meanwhile
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Deformisani SAS
still having my action center fully transparent for a bit when i open it :)
It's far more serving than nullspace.
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#RadMorning
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 09:33
no transparency
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does anyone need a xp product key?
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MRX3F-47B9T-2487J-KWKMF-RPWBY
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They are dime a dozen, many of them exist online. But thanks for that i suppose. (edited)
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 09:35
np
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none of the keys that i found online work. except the one from archive.org
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You might need to dig a bit more because i'm pretty sure they are abuntant on pastebins and others like it.
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452mb?
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not feeling too good about this one chief
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january 2021 build date? 🤨
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i literally built this hours ago
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and i'm too lazy to redo the certs (edited)
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so i set the date to jan. 2021
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ok cool
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i predict: missing drivers
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trolla
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come holla at the trolla
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i hope this is not vl
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so far i didn't add anything to it
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not even the 2000 bootscreen
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but now that i have a working source tree i'll do it later
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TROLLA
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certified hood classic
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time to redo it all over again
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or maybe the bios date is indeed the issue
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no idea
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still epic
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windows xp but nt 5.2
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i wanted to change the build number but last time i did that it went seriously wrong
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that iso could help me a lot with something
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I have been working on windows xp nt 5.2 edition
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this is sp0
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and you can't install any sp's in this
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LET'SW
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MOTHERFUCKING
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GOOGHWETOYET
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I just want a few files from it
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watchu need
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ok thank god it's not vl
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nvm it's vl
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uhh
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so how do i figure out the product key
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is there a file that has it
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idk
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the file I wanna look at from your iso is setupreg.hiv
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one sec
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epic
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@Vruh 2 can you send setupp.ini from your iso
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i'm not using setupp.ini from my iso
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imma replace it with s2k3's
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so i can actually install the thing
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aight
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in any case
63 bytes
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it did go wrong for me too
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shit no
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that's not it
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that's the 2k3 one
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there
63 bytes
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well changing the build number in 2k3src
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i had the same errors as you changing the build num
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interesting. first one you sent is slightly different than my 2k3 one
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even changing the branch leads to errors for some fucking reason
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second one completely different
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whas the difference between em
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the second one
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oh i see
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hey look it's my taskbar
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hey look not windows 10
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my 2k3 setupp.ini
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no shit it's different
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it should be
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for some fucking reason the src patches dont like when the build string isnt 3790.0.srckit
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so in general just avoid it...
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i wonder how others did it
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like those guys got diff build numbers and branches with no errs
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i thought it was maybe my kernel fucking things up but no
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i even gone as far as building on baremetal
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yet the same fucking errors
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i did that first but honestly it wasn't even worth it
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speed difference is negligible
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so i just build on a vm now
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i mean as in installing server 2003 on another drive just for src building
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yeah that far
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same fucking errors
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because build num and branch isnt what the patches have by default
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there we go
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well at least it isnt home
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where networking doesnt work for some reason
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home 3790 trol
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home 3790.1232 leaked
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lmao
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still as bad as you would imagine
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ah yes
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alright we're close to balling
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logonui
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 11:56
wait i legit forgot that win 11 is a thing lol
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its well known enough to have gotten a shitty mobile port
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 11:56
ok stop spamming man
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just documenting lol
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 11:56
what. bully?
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certified hood classic
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yes
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 11:57
oh ho.
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check gta sa
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ik
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mobile port of sa is shit
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 11:57
even the pc port (unofficial)
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even the current de edition
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atleast rockstar is fixing bugs
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the mobile ports were the basis for the dissapointment editions (edited)
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they took re3 and reVC down for that shit
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 11:59
ik
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re3 is back but revc isnt
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found important shit for xp nt 5.2 edition
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almost all tha nt 5.1 stuff missing
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right here
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swag
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oobe when /s
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oobe does not exist
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the joke
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i kno
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I've been trying to change the sku like you just did with normal 2k3 iso instead of source compile
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you think you can help?
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no idea
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tweaknt ?
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perhaps it's time for me to ruin my source tree
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encode decodepointer? 2000 bootscreen?
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both
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 12:05
oobe does exist on xp only if u dont use easy install.
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again the joke
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 12:06
also i never played bully.
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winmsgr doesn't exist
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that's about it
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otherwise this looks and feels exactly like xp
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 12:06
on my build i have windows messenger.
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Vruh 2
tweaknt ?
tweaknt might be useful idk
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ez to change sku of installed windows no shit
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i wonder what does it actually do though
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but idk how it would help me with changing installation media
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try seeing the differences between the backed up system hive that it says it did
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and the one it patched
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 12:08
so uh. the windows xp update thing is dead now.
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what xp update thing?
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add the patched winlogon into the src tree next time
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trol
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or rather, the compiled binaries folder (edited)
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found tha based 2003
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ballin
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 12:17
server 2k3
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Scamdisk
add the patched winlogon into the src tree next time
yes
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absolutely
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i think i got enc decode pointer on already
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mfs didn't even give me code snippets so i could do shit they just give me the whole fucking files
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so it was barely anything
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@Ximonite yo
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you know how to make a 2000 style bootscreen right
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with tha right palette n shit right
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yes
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could you make a 2000 style xp bootscreen for the trololo
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pls
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i got the 2000 bootscreen in, encode and decode pointer plus some other goodies that may turn into a problem later on
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but otherwise they're in
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the ultimate test: does fnaf 2 run trol
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but i mean the ntos and win32 folder are both compiling without errors so i think we should be good
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i'm just gonna bcz the base directory entirely and gonna replace winlogon along with the other activation files and then imma try to shit an iso out
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Vruh 2
i got the 2000 bootscreen in, encode and decode pointer plus some other goodies that may turn into a problem later on
those other goodies turned into a problem very quickly
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got rid of em
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leaving only encode/decodepointer for now
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btw I will make funny 2000 xp bootscreen soon™️
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post build be like
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i only built the base so i hope it's fine
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stuck a patched winlogon + pidgen and setupp.ini from 2k3
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Ximonite
btw I will make funny 2000 xp bootscreen soon™️
how would it look though
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would look like the 2000 bootscreen
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but it will say windows xp
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new windows logo n shit + black background?
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I could
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but I wasn't going to
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was gonna put xp logo and text on 2000 bootscreen
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for the trolololo
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that works too
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that would be even more trolololo
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do it
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alright iso has been shat out
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 13:32
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concept I made in like, 5 mins
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oh i should mention
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the progress bar i can't change (edited)
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but that looks cool
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this
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i can't change that
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change it to a square shape and that's literally almost it
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just gotta move the logo up a bit
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 13:34
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changed it to the 2000-style progress bar
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but the image I used has an empty bar
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make it a full square
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it should be an empty bar
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move the logo up a bit so it's centered relative to the upper square
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and maybe add a white microsoft logo on one of the upper corners
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 13:36
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almost perfect
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 13:36
I just noticed the copyright text isn't centred
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i still feel the logo isn't really centered
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move it up a bit
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just a bit
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 13:36
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hold up
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 13:38
what's wrong now?
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 13:39
Alrighty
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the 2000 bootscreen is working
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i fucked up the progress bar color
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it's green instead of blue
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oops (edited)
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i need to remove a single character off a file to make it blue
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i forgot about it
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i'll do that later
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Vruh 2
Click to see attachment 🖼️
just need to make this a bitmap with the proper palette @Ximonite
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the Door guy 03/01/2022 13:43
2000 boot screen for 8.1 when trol
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in theory it's possible
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if @win32 figures out how to get it on vista
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i sent binaries with it applied to 2003's kernel already
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so in theory he could do it
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the Door guy 03/01/2022 13:44
even better, 7 boot screen on 8.1 when tr
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negative
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2000 bootscreen is the superior one
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the Door guy 03/01/2022 13:45
im theming 8.1 to be like 7 as much as i possibly can
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VRXXR-VJC3H-YVWYT-HCPDD-HFMQ3
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saving it here
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apparently including the patched winlogon is not enough
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 13:49
antiwpa
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i kno
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but it wasn't supposed to do this : (
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bro what noooo
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i wonder if i overwrote enc/decpointer files when i restored the win32 folder after it got severely fucked up
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@#RadMorning
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the palette mang
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:07
it looks like it's washed out
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the palette is wrong
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:08
welp
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how can this be fixed
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ximonite knows maybe
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alter the colors so it displays correct in the wrong palette instead
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spectacular bug
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transparency in mspaint
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:18
oh wow
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like how
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thats anti aliasing afaik
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no it's actually transparent
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i can move around the image i pasted and the text is transparent
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i mean anti aliasing causes that
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because mspaint has a shitty implementation
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it's a black and white image though
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not text
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it's an image
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this is the image
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however i paste it in xp's paint and the text turns transparent
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huh
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wtf
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:29
You have to save the bitmaps properly
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Do you use pixelformer for doing so
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:29
the images I sent were in .png ...
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just install Paint.NET 3.5.1, last ver to work on XP (edited)
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:29
whoopsie on my part
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@Vruh 2 what option do I select?
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for the format
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iirc it's some 16 color palette
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:34
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the fixed boot screen in bmp
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try this, I guess
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is it 16 color
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:35
yeah
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:35
It should be indexed btw
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:36
what do you mean exactly?
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:37
4bpp indexed bitmap
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:38
this bitmap is 16bpp
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that's 16 bit
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not 16 color
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momentum
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:39
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OK, figured out how to make it 16 color
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...I think
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welp got 10005 patched
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 14:40
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uhm
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Scamdisk
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:40
Did you debomb it
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not yet
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only got ci and winload patched
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bootmgr was reused from 9926
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:41
Oh you learning it
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Forgot to send you out 10005 but you seem to be doing great lol
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more like someone gave something i don't feel like disclosing
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:41
Oh I know what you were given
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he said it didn't work
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but well
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it worked with 10005
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:42
It does lol, at least 100% with ci (edited)
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it did with winload as well seemnly
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but guess 9926 bootmgr works with 10005 so no worry about patching that
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:43
I'll drop you the files anyway
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oh yeah because winresume
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Scamdisk
but guess 9926 bootmgr works with 10005 so no worry about patching that
Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:44
The one I did?
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Good thing that can be reused
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no, lucas' 9926 efi bootmgr (edited)
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:44
Ah
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i only patched the efi files
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:45
I did legacy to use 9926 for a bit (edited)
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Unstable af with games
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the fact this worked at all despite him saying it doesn't
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:47
He's that kind of people, making great stuff but not confident enough, ha (edited)
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Say what's the last build with flight sign
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some rs2 build
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yup
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:47
Didn't work?
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it did work
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i haven't done the spp trick yet
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:47
Oh spp
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wanted to be sure it works first
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:48
Flight sign is only responsible for causing blue screens (edited)
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before any timebomb removal
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wait a min i did do spp patching on 10009 however
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but not gonna patch that's ci and winload rn
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also i did install 10005 by deploying the wim into a vhd and loading it into vmware and setting nointegritychecks manually
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i may leave it like this for now
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also i did install 10005 by deploying the wim into a vhd and loading it into vmware and setting nointegritychecks manually
Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:56
Do you sysprep that next
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no
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i kinda wish i knew how to do the actual whistler one but that isn't the goal exactly
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:56
Oh I got what you mean
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i did it for testing
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the patched ci and winload (edited)
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bootmgr i already knew it would work because it's 9926's
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Vruh 2
i kinda wish i knew how to do the actual whistler one but that isn't the goal exactly
Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:57
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i saw that image earlier but that isn't the only thing
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 14:58
Bitmaps?
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almost sure it needs more than just bitmaps aswell
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Vruh 2
bro what noooo
the Door guy 03/01/2022 14:59
five days at fredricks
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#RadMorning
Click to see attachment 🖼️
the Door guy 03/01/2022 15:01
why are u using irfanview when windows photo viewer is clearly superiour
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2012 was 10 years ago 👴
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the Door guy
why are u using irfanview when windows photo viewer is clearly superiour
#RadMorning 03/01/2022 15:05
cuz IrfanView's got great features
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Vruh 2
2012 was 10 years ago 👴
#RadMorning 03/01/2022 15:05
...old
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💀
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bro even worse
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2009 was 13 years ago
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☠
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 15:06
💀
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i forgor
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windows 7 is old as fuck
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bro
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bro
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vista is almost 15
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☠
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 15:07
💀
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10 is almost 7
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💀
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xp is 21 ☠
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2000 is literally almost 23 ☠
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holy shit
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 15:09
2019 was 3 year ago
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💀
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2024 will be painful
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windows 2000 is 25 years old
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windows 7 is 15
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windows vista is 17
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windows 8 is 12 and 8.1 around 11 or 10 ☠
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windows 10 is 9
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@Betajyst4094 yo
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bmps?
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you got em?
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:13
What bmps
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whistler
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:19
2419?
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One minute
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go on
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:28
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hmmm
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weird (edited)
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it has none of the images that the new bootscreen uses
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 15:32
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this is the only boot screen from the file Betajyst sent
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yeah that's not exactly
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:36
Hmm. wasn't it supposed to show it
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One min
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where are the bitmaps at (edited)
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they don't exist in ntoskrnl or bootvid
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:46
That black bitmap IS the one you want
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 15:46
?
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:46
Bitmap 1 in the folder
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 15:46
I know
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but it's just... black
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:46
Yes
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It's black when viewed externally but on boot it's visible
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That's a quirk of the main image bitmap in ntoskrnl
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 15:47
Ohhhh
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:48
So creating a custom one is a more specific procedure than I remember
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  • what *
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that black bitmap
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actually has something in it?
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:49
Yes
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mind blown
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:50
Open rtm xp's ntoskrnl and you'll also find it pitch black
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Vista too
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the funny xp bootscreen on vista ext kernel i did a while back was literally that, swapping 2 bitmaps (edited)
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the animation and the pallete is literally the same in both
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just that the bitmaps are different
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 15:52
Animation is a bootvid thing
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yes
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but it's like the same between xp and vista (7 and later with bootres disabled either by bootux or graphicsmodedisabled bcd options) (edited)
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 15:59
The startup process of Windows NT 6 (Windows Vista and later) differ from the startup process part of previous versions of Windows. In this article, unless otherwise specified, what is said about Windows Vista also applies to all later NT operating systems. For Windows Vista, the boot sector or UEFI loads the Windows Boot Manager (a file named B...
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"The ABO menu is accessible by rapidly pressing or holding the F8 key before Windows boots. Starting from Windows 8 on UEFI, it can only be accessed by clicking Restart while holding the Shift key. "
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didn't know this before (edited)
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Betajyst4094
Click to see attachment 🖼️
bro
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this fucking switch statement
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my god
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switch (PltRotBarStatus) { case PLT_START: FadePalette ((UCHAR)(PaletteNum)); FadePaletteColor (0, COLOR_FADE_TEXT); // #1 - color of fading text FadePaletteColor (0,BRED); FadePaletteColor (0,BGREEN); FadePaletteColor (0,BBLUE); FadePaletteColor (0,BYELLOW); if ((++PaletteNum)>=FADE_GRADES) { PltRotBarStatus = PLT_CYCLE; FadingIn = TRUE; PaletteNum = 1; } break; case PLT_CYCLE: switch (AnimBarPos) { case 0: FadePaletteColor(10,BRED); break; case 1: FadePaletteColor(FADE_GRADES,BRED); break; case 2: FadePaletteColor(10,BGREEN); break; case 3: FadePaletteColor(FADE_GRADES,BGREEN); break; case 4: FadePaletteColor(10,BBLUE); break; case 5: FadePaletteColor(FADE_GRADES,BBLUE); break; case 6: FadePaletteColor(10,BYELLOW); break; case 7: FadePaletteColor(FADE_GRADES,BYELLOW); break; case 8: FadePaletteColor(10,BRED); break; case 9: FadePaletteColor(0,BRED); break; case 10: FadePaletteColor(10,BGREEN); break; case 11: FadePaletteColor(0,BGREEN); break; case 12: FadePaletteColor(10,BBLUE); break; case 13: FadePaletteColor(0,BBLUE); break; case 14: FadePaletteColor(10,BYELLOW); break; case 15: FadePaletteColor(0,BYELLOW); break; default: break; }
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suffer
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 16:01
They admitted it was bad code
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i wouldn't have written better
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at least it's not a giant if stack
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 16:01
Reminds me of someone
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it reminds me of myself
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but yes
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yandev
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 16:02
I've probably got better code but it's for beta 2 bootscreen (edited)
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ownage
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first off it doesn't know what a bred is
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nor a bgreen
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nor a bblue
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nor a byellow
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it doesn't know anything
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which means it was declared somewhere but where
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 16:03
Yep it does probably need more than that
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so here are the defines
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"BRED is 12, BGREEN is 13, BBLUE is 14, BYELLOW is 15"
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sure enough
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let's define that
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that did the trick
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swag
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@Betajyst4094 time to see if it works lole!!!
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 16:10
Good stuff
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nice
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mfw wanted to make a 7 vm just for bcd template editing
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but i realized i already had the 8102 eeap vm
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i do know visualbcdeditor's bcd files are from 8102
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almost
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almost
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 16:13
Bitmaps bit different in earlier xp builds
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Ask someone on bw cause i completely forgot how to deal with those. (edited)
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i'm not gonna go bother people there
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 16:15
Lol
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was 2419 the last build with this bmp?
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last leaked with it, yes
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2428 uses the one with the xp flag
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ok i think
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i THINK
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it may have to do with the fact i removed the definition of COLOR_WHITE
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because it was the same thing as BYELLOW and wasn't used anywhere
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 16:16
I had the same issue just now
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what issue
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 16:16
Those bitmaps are different
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This palette
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Does the same in vista ntoskrnl
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well
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you do have the tools to fix the palette right
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ah i didn't even remove the definition
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from the fadepalettecolor
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i only removed it from the main palette
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@Betajyst4094 you got the beta 2 screen code?
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poopin shittin poopin shittin
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wonder if i can get some more fade states in
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that probably means making the switch case a literal tower
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@win32 do you wish for this compiled in any case?
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x64 would be preferable
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absolutely not
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i don't think i can compile this in amd64
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i could try
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but i doubt i'll produce working binaries
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it doesn't have to work. the only code that needs to work properly is the boot anim code. or actually i'll just compile it into some boilerplate thingy or even use ntosdrop-ce
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if you want just the boot anim code
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i mean
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it's all in ntos\init
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i'll pull out my anim.c for you (edited)
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11.58 KB
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comes with the correct palette
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... and the questionable code written by fancymaster1
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ugh thanks discord
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shouldve posted in #windows-8 but eh
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@Betajyst4094 bo ?
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 18:15
What
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Oh nice, it works
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 18:26
Technically with some diffing this can be ported to vista
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Just a theory tho
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no i mean
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you got the beta 2 screen?
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also i wish i had some form of grep equivalent
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i can't use grep because i don't have some functions on s2k3
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Betajyst4094 03/01/2022 18:41
Well you don't hesitate to bother me /j
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Yeah one minute
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This I think, put stuff in respective directories
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You might have to fix something (edited)
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 18:48
minimal discord.
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bruh the upload speed of my ss in this server are slow
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idk why my monitor saves stuff that was previously on the screen.
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#RadMorning 03/01/2022 18:55
Ghosting?
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seems like so
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 18:57
image retention
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bad samsung panel.
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Deleted User 03/01/2022 18:57
Burn in
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My phone has the same thing somehow
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it is an LCD panel
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 19:04
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Deleted User
My phone has the same thing somehow
Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 19:07
my tablet had that too. but the whole panel is fucked up now. (cracked)
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Deleted User
Burn in
not burn in, it's called image retention
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burn in is a term from the CRT monitor era :)))
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Deleted User 03/01/2022 19:23
ha
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ah
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for OLED screens it's more like burn out as the pixels slowly degrade
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but I think it can somewhat heal itself
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 19:24
it can.
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if you turn it off for a few hours
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i mean this monitor was cheap. and works fine.
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 19:34
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everyone played the og nfsu
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i barely played it
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nfsu2 was my life at one point though
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 19:42
same
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thats why i love nsfu 2
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Deformisani SAS
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 03/01/2022 20:01
man
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that looks awesome
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Deformisani SAS
everyone played the og nfsu
Deleted User 03/01/2022 20:01
i did
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 20:01
ik
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Deleted User 03/01/2022 20:01
even when i was a kid
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 20:02
im 13 and i played nfsu since i was 5
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Deleted User 03/01/2022 20:02
i have it installed now too
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Deformisani SAS
im 13 and i played nfsu since i was 5
Deleted User 03/01/2022 20:02
since 6 maybe
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 20:02
for me nfsu 2 doesnt wanna launch on windows 10 :(
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Deleted User 03/01/2022 20:02
for me it can
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just fine
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i played nfs carbon on the last day the online servers were up
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and no one was online
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problem
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Sticker
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Deleted User 03/01/2022 20:06
i never played online lol
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only story mode or whatever
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still play the game
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my fav game of all time
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tried to speedrunnit
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didnt go well
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stacked deck is extremely annoying
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 20:23
i never played online either
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its still possible actually. but not officialy.
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yea
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with custom servers or parsec
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 21:42
21:43
playing gta sa on a vm ? not bad and not laggy (like 25 to 30 fps)
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not exactly what i wanted (edited)
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Shitcunt
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are you reshacking the text in explorer or what
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then what
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win32k.sys compiled from source because
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i can
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ah yes
22:56
was the source ever fully compiled
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yeah
22:57
that system is literally fully compiled from source (edited)
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well not entirely because there's missing shit in tha source
22:57
but it was compiled
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i thought the code to winver was not there
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to what
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winlogon
22:57
sorry brainfard
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it isn't (edited)
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it was reversed for xp sp1 but this is based off s2k3 so i'm just using one from a retail iso
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yes you can just bolt on missing shit onto your compiled files
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Vruh 2
it was reversed for xp sp1 but this is based off s2k3 so i'm just using one from a retail iso
then why didnt you compile sp1 if thats complete
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it's not
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xp sp1 doesn't even compile to a full system
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i thought the code to winver was not there
ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 22:59
ah yes. a fondamental part for windows to boot
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you can only do a service pack installer
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 22:59
winver
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trol
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i know right????
22:59
how can we live without the nice gradient banner bro
22:59
absolutely unusable
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:00
actually
23:00
you can't boot windows without winver
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you can
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:00
and my clock is 2 minutes before
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lmao what
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:00
da future
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i was kinda wanting this more but obviously this is not the way
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your clock is completely wrong
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its 1 hr behind
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скип BOT 03/01/2022 23:01
4ktroll
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:01
it's not
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Vruh 2
i was kinda wanting this more but obviously this is not the way
ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:01
windows longhorn start button trol
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make longhorn 2
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i could compile with the kernel version in 6.0
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it would break a lot of shit and it would make razzle think i'm compiling longhorn which would break things even more
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but i could
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i wonder if i can get just the start text and not the flag
23:04
actually yes 😦
23:05
i can 😦
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making the flag a transparent bitmap 😦
23:05
not legit enough
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 23:06
cunt for yt is basically the n word
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too bad
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:06
wait what happens if razzle thinks it's compiling longhorn
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that i don't know
23:06
probably breaks shit
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it does know when it's compiling longhorn
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:06
it would complain about missing longhorn stuff for sure
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i mean of course it would
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 23:06
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:07
longhorn was already in development when 2003 rtm was compiled (edited)
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there are a shitload of longhorn and blackcomb mentions thru code
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by the time of 2003 rtm lh was well into dev
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 23:18
23:18
i have a fuck ton of software openned up and my ram is chillin. (1gb ram on the vm)
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office 2003 and a browser
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that was easy (edited)
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office 2003 and a browser
that isnt so much
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Vruh 2
that was easy (edited)
god its so uncanny
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i wiped the bitmap's rendering previleges outta this world
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Vruh 2
that was easy (edited)
ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:19
Start
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suffer
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Vruh 2
that was easy (edited)
Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 23:19
is that a early longhorn build or is that a early xp build
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Vruh 2
i wiped the bitmap's rendering previleges outta this world
give em back!!!!
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Vruh 2
suffer
ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:19
xergonite
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Deformisani SAS
is that a early longhorn build or is that a early xp build
that's server 2003 professional
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 23:20
garbo
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the rarest version of them all
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Vruh 2
the rarest version of them all
ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:20
Not arson enough
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Make everything in shell32 into winver
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 23:20
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windows 5.3 when
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 23:21
impostor
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once again
23:21
nothing is stopping me from
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setting the version number to 5.3
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Deformisani SAS
impostor
sus
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besides my will to do it
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Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 23:21
when the impostor is sus
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make it 6.1 and watch shit go wild
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:22
5.x 🤮
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6.x 😎
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i lowkey wanna make the flag render to the right
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better yet let me put the entire flag rendering code on an if and let me make it so i can switch it on and off easily in the code
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ezpz
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:23
just replace all the letters with windows flags
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trol
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don't know how to do that
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but it'd be ultra funi
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ImSwordQueen
5.x 🤮
10.0
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:24
probably copy the windows flag code and paste it
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a bunch of times
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trol
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that could work
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but
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:24
probably that won't work
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that'd be inefficient and
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fuck it
23:24
so no
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:24
oh
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major trolla moment
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Vruh 2
major trolla moment
bool
23:30
boob lool
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скип BOT 03/01/2022 23:30
him
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:31
23:31
it doesn't look that bad
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Ok
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:33
sta
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Vruh 2
Click to see attachment 🖼️
stan
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:34
i love ie crashing the whole vm
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ImSwordQueen
i love ie crashing the whole vm
ie running on less than 69 cores? prepare for DEATH
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you wish i were joking
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ImSwordQueen 03/01/2022 23:36
ok windows 7 choosen to be a bitch and keeping vmware busy for no reason
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Vruh 2
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deformisani SAS 03/01/2022 23:48
sta on serbian means what
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23:48
ive never seen this boot animation on xp
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cry about it
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it's working all too well
00:04
my toggle actually works now i can switch between disabled and enabled and now i have the most cursed start menu ever
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how's that
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Deformisani SAS 04/01/2022 02:38
garbo
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css on a vm.
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sheesh better than i expected. also idk why but the vms graphics card is having a stroke. now everythig is bright af
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ImSwordQueen
5.x 🤮
Deleted User 04/01/2022 09:12
whats wrong with 5.0 (windows 2000)
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it is fairly light
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 10:06
hiya!
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Deleted User 04/01/2022 10:13
hello
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DeRosenberg 04/01/2022 10:13
Hello
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hello
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 12:50
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 12:50
Ninja style
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@Ximonite good start button ? (edited)
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yea it looks good 6P62OkieDokie
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 13:14
longhorn trol
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i did some tomfoolery
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on the source
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and now it looks like this
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it's still hacky though (edited)
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 13:14
This can be achieved with restorator easily
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it can
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 13:14
i love your win32k mod
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shitcunt
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i put some very obvious strings so i could know it was working
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anyways i wanted to remove the text in the start button all together (edited)
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before i realized: it's impossible
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 13:16
how does classic look like (edited)
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like shit
13:16
it looks like shit
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like i said this is a hacky solution
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aligning the windows flag to the right then putting 2 spaces
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yes... if i put some actual text the windows flag is on the right
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 13:17
10/10 👌
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turns out putting 2 spaces for the text makes a pretty fire start menu
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fuck
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start button
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@Betajyst4094 can you align the start button flag to the right with restorator?
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apparently you can align it to the center but again you'd need no text on the button and that's impossible so
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i wonder if you can make the start button a checkbox troll
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 13:18
wait
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isn't the text stored in the registry
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it's on explorer.exe
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it has like
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10 things you need to nuke then it goes to a fallback in tray.cpp
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which is the text in that image
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hence the capitalized S
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that's the fallback text after i nuked 10 things related to the text rendering in the code
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 13:19
oh
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but normally it's on a string in explorer.rc (edited)
13:20
much easier to work with
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i lowkey want to make the button a checkbox
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ok no making the pushbutton a BS_CHECKBOX is not the right way of doing it
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Vruh 2
@Betajyst4094 can you align the start button flag to the right with restorator?
Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 13:32
Why would I do that
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because with it left aligned it doesn't perfectly center
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oh this is perfect
13:45
i can start breaking shit severely
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i could potentially kill uxtheme support for the taskband
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hmmm nah
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Vruh 2
oh this is perfect
that start button looks smecksy
13:46
custom theme?
13:46
it's just royale
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and explorer's buttfucked
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to make it look good
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buttfuck explorer
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momend
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proof it ain't a custom theme
13:48
don't mind the broken as fuck taskband
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 13:48
where's plex trol
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up your ass troll
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 13:48
oh
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owned!
13:50
troll moment
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13:51
is this a major troll moment
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naw
13:55
the desired result was achieved
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no more text!
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no
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more
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text
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 13:55
wow
13:55
that means... more confusion
13:55
but, you've got ALT+TAB
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now replace the taskbar texture with edp
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that means we're going windows 7 style
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 13:56
Alrighty
14:07
aw
14:07
i did it too early
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lmao this is too good
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this taskbar
15:12
is insufferable
15:12
help me
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i like it
15:14
i mean its good if you have a big monitor and want to make use of it
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1152x864
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that looks........ fine
15:14
normal power user's pc
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from 2006
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i guess
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suffering
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aha i made it render no brackground on the tray
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that looks uncanny
15:19
why does it look so much like longhorn
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you should actually make an explorer that looks like longhorn
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wrong this is shitcunt not longhorn
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windows shitcunt
15:19
sounds interesting
15:19
just shitcunt (edited)
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 15:19
I like the design with the system tray more
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#RadMorning
I like the design with the system tray more
i did it that way to use it with royale
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yo mama dead
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vista momentum
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 15:20
oh yea
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literally 1984
15:21
+23 years
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wtf how
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 15:21
Vistafying XP
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#RadMorning
Vistafying XP
no i'm just commenting shit out until i see something i like
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what is xp
15:21
that is shitcunt
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this is completely random
15:22
let me record shitcunt booting up so you can feel even more confused
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 15:22
Well, it is a looking a little like Vista
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give shitcunt iso
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 15:22
with the textless Start button
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FUCK i recorded in mkv
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Vruh 2
FUCK i recorded in mkv
change extension to mp4
15:24
itll work
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 15:25
You'll see whistler bootscreen
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Vruh did the beta 2 code work?
15:25
vmware fucked up really hard in the end
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like
15:25
explosively
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Betajyst4094
Vruh did the beta 2 code work?
Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 15:25
e?
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i didn't really try it
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 15:26
what the heck was that at the end
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i don't know
15:26
vmware fucked up
15:28
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/927941635092926506/unknown.png apparently the tray buttons are supposed to have hover and pressed states
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i broke the tray enough for them to appear
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sweet jesus
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no idea how to make them appear
15:29
without breaking the whole tray theming
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 15:29
Hmm, that'd make it better
15:30
Hover looked really good in 7 betas
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god what the actual fuck
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they're opaque which doesn't
15:33
help
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are you doing to this poor xp install
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replacing explorer
15:33
100 times
15:33
otherwise nothing
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 15:51
15:51
fancy cmd
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ImSwordQueen
fancy cmd
the scrollbar is not nice
15:53
change the font to a cooler one like consolas
15:53
and hide the scrollbar
15:53
then it will be pure epicness
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 15:53
you can't hide it
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
15:53
not good
15:53
get rid of it
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 15:53
how
15:53
skill issue
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 15:53
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well thats better
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
why
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I don't want my mf command prompt to rely on dwm 💀
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Ximonite
I don't want my mf command prompt to rely on dwm 💀
in what cases do you not have dwm on your system
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unless you dont have a graphics card or just are a nerd who likes grey 90s ui
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7 betas in a vm
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why would you have a shiny aero command prompt on a 7 beta in a vm?
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idk lol
16:14
I don't want my command prompt to be fancy anywhere
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I want it to work
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clearly you aren't a linux user
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even when everything else is dying
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yep
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idk man
16:17
i like cmder
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it can look fancy while being functional
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you can make it a drop down like in quake so you press
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say
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alt + '
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and it drops down from the top of the screen
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you also have tabs
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and you can customize however you want it
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amogus, sus! (edited)
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sussy backier
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like so
16:22
you can make it smaller of course (edited)
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alternatively it can just appear without the slide down
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ImSwordQueen
how
make the window height match the buffer height
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
the Door guy 04/01/2022 16:26
How
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oh cool
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skip
how
the Door guy 04/01/2022 16:27
How
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
my bet is that you've changed the CMD sauce to call a DWM API to extend the glass into the client area
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and since the default background color of CMD is black, that gets rendered as transparent to the glass
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what happens if you do "color f0"
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or smth to change the background color
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@docR explain this shit
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RaduTek
my bet is that you've changed the CMD sauce to call a DWM API to extend the glass into the client area
is the source code to cmd available tho?
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I remember you know how to do it
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doubt it
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it's just an app
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RaduTek
my bet is that you've changed the CMD sauce to call a DWM API to extend the glass into the client area
Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 16:29
No
16:29
He juts
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is the source code to cmd available tho?
leaks idk, also pretty sure other implementations to the terminal exists
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 16:29
Aerocmd
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well that mod still probably needs to use that API (edited)
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urmomcmd
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 16:29
No shi
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the Door guy 04/01/2022 16:29
deezcmd
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deez nu
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 16:30
deez no
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 16:31
Looks good on here
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the funny
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 16:32
Ah it's being used still hehe
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yea I actually updated it recently
16:32
figured out there was a v2 like a week ago
16:33
this looks poggers
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 16:34
Good stuff. even though most of the work is athenera's lol..
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If 5252 leaks we'll see how close i got
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still want someone to fix 5112 theme for 8.1
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my attempt almost bricked my 8.1 installation tsunLUL
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the funny
the Door guy 04/01/2022 16:36
how 2 (edited)
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the Door guy 04/01/2022 16:38
HOLY SHIT
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 16:40
does not even run in Windows 10 🤣
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Betajyst4094
Looks good on here
the Door guy 04/01/2022 16:40
?
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 16:40
?
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#RadMorning
does not even run in Windows 10 🤣
omg wuindows 19 🅱️ad
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 16:40
seriously, it isn't running
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the Door guy 04/01/2022 16:40
run aerocmd
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run cmd
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 16:40
technically yeah
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 16:40
Run cmd
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 16:40
ohhhh.
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I'm dumb
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Betajyst4094 04/01/2022 16:41
It's an injector
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 16:41
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it only officially supports vista and 7
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skip
Click to see attachment 🖼️
im running 10 ltsb lol
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 16:41
can't run Glass8 since I'm on the latest Win10 LTSC
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2021
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very weird
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Ximonite
this looks poggers
Yessssss
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no blur here lol
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like on Windows 10/11, the glass on client area API should just fill the client area with the title bar color
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it shouldn't make the background transparent nor blurry
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Ximonite
Click to see attachment 🖼️
This the one I use?
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unless there's a different "glass fill"
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Ximonite
@docR explain this shit
You mean change the text color?
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docR
You mean change the text color?
they were wondering how to make cmd use aero
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By using that exe lol
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RaduTek
very weird
this is unfair it works for you but not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But change the text color to something more bold, like green
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 16:45
I prefer the look of the normal cmd
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It'll be hard to read over some backgrounds even then
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mfw can't use windows terminal on ltsc
16:46
might install mainline win11 later
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probably when i get a second ssd on this thing
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HOLY SHIT NO
19:41
THE SKU WORKED
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THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK
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VRUH 2 ASSFUCK
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sounds like starter
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oh hey
19:46
the default wallpaper is actually crystal now
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and my explorer is working
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i guess i present Vruh 2 Assfuck Professional 😦 (edited)
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i like that taskbar a lot
19:50
is it a theme?
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the fact luna looks better without the cyan tray part
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classic however
19:51
: )
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bliss is no more
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crystal and ripple are the superior wallpapers
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how can i get that start button and remove cyan tray part in xp?
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you can't
19:51
: )
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you could extrapolate luna to make it look similar
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without src fuckery that is
19:52
i dare you to delete access to classic /s
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negative
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ImSwordQueen 04/01/2022 19:56
2PAC - Bulgaria
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extrapolated 2600 3790 times
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the iso
19:58
the iso
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i forgot to generate a new build tag so it's still yesterday
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in 2021
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server 2003 src when build tag is not 3790.srckit: random errors for no reason
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still wonder how the others avoided those
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segoe is here wtf
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Vruh 2
i guess i present Vruh 2 Assfuck Professional 😦 (edited)
mf even got the little longhorn start button gap
20:04
i hate that
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on the bottom?
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i have no idea why does it exist
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taskbar's 30px
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i set the start button to be 30 px hi
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longhorn had that bug too
20:09
it's not a bug actually
20:09
it's the start button bmp
20:09
it just has a little thing on the bottom
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Deleted User 04/01/2022 20:40
this guy is so fucking stupid
20:46
at least he kept it
20:48
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what the where
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Deleted User 04/01/2022 20:49
my server
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wow that kid is stupid
20:53
lmao
20:53
like he literally burned a service pack installer to a dvd thinking it's an iso file
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bruh
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#RadMorning 04/01/2022 20:53
XDDDD
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like he literally burned a service pack installer to a dvd thinking it's an iso file
they did actually release service packs as an iso back then
22:19
the ones on the official microsoft site were iso's
22:30
it didn't work
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not running windows 2000
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  • dies *
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me when i do the thing of the what when
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ok then
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Vruh 2
not running windows 2000
not yet
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I'll install 2000 on it when I feel like it
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Deformisani SAS 05/01/2022 03:34
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mypal browses discord alot faster than firefox esr
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i barely remember total cmd
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that thing is old jesus
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Deformisani SAS 05/01/2022 06:12
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havent played this in a while
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Deformisani SAS 05/01/2022 07:53
so i noticed that someone hacked my google account again. and legit made a video on a fortnite skin changer lmfao
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RostiTheGamer 05/01/2022 08:01
How?
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How someone can hack your account? (edited)
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Ximonite
EZ
Deleted User 05/01/2022 09:00
awesome
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mine
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RostiTheGamer
How someone can hack your account? (edited)
Dodgy OAuth services
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Insecure passwords used on other sites
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Data leaks
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No 2FA enabled
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RostiTheGamer 05/01/2022 09:12
Yeah
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extended kernl stupid scam troll
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how maek work????
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 10:08
extract the setup file using WinRAR or 7-zip
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the fonts are all broken
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extended kernl stupid scam troll
Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 10:11
Ever wanted a trip to the beautiful south american country
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 10:13
nope
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lol discord still not working
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#RadMorning
extract the setup file using WinRAR or 7-zip
Deleted User 05/01/2022 10:24
I install it by editing OSver
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imagine using stinky web client on vista when you can use epical windows 7 with working discord
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lololololololo
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Deleted User 05/01/2022 10:27
Libraries OS
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imagine using stinky web client on vista when you can use epical windows 7 with working discord
just you wait.
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why not
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start11 is the definition of asshole design
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can't open up the configurator app because it wants me to update it
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 14:11
ah yes.
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always on drm
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or rather it detected the crack
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because it's already 1.01
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time to update uninstall then reinstall the cracked version (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 14:12
ohh
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i saw that too
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i thought it was an always up-to-date or no use thing
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but it's 1.01 so more like it detected the crack
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 14:13
i fucking hate explorerframe
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i can't mod it with resourcehacker because it dies
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i can't mod it with customizergod because it doesn't change anything
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@Scamdisk i’ll give you a start11 key
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no need
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i can reinstall the cracked version without deleting config data
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It's probably against your interest as well to activate it, unless you are maining the thing.
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welp got it recracked
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so while i can't reconfigure it
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 14:26
use the registry trol
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i can use it with the centered taskbar and 11 start menu
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removed start11config
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troll
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now let's see if it works without that
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and yup it does
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 14:31
btw
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why using the start 11 start menu
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i like the 11 start menu just not 11 itself
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 14:34
that's what i hated from 11 lol
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idk at least it can be used with a good taskbar
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sib++ will never have this
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 14:36
but no live tiles either
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the worst of both worlds (edited)
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never cared for live tiles tbh idk why (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 14:36
on 8.x i don't use them often
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but on 10 when i get the chance they are actually useful
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also start11's 11 style menu has the better search
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like no opening other shit just for searching
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it does it from the menu itself
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and yes this is 1809
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because vb bad
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1903 was terrible
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anything before and after 1903 was better
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 15:06
how is 1903 terrible
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i found it more usable than 1909
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everything after 1903 is terrible
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i remember 1903 back when it released
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bro
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by far the worst version i installed on my computer
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microsoft constantly breaking vmware
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constant bsods
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i have no idea why that version was so bad
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1909 was miles better
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 15:32
never had issues with 1903
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except for the memory leaks
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but it was a dirty install
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and all dirty installs i had had problems
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/*--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | WINVER.C - Windows Version program | | History: | 03/08/89 Toddla Created | *--------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ #include <nt.h> #include <ntrtl.h> #include <nturtl.h> #include <windows.h> #include <port1632.h> #include <stdio.h> #include "winverp.h" #include <shellapi.h> #include <strsafe.h> #ifndef ARRAYSIZE #define ARRAYSIZE(x) (sizeof(x) / sizeof(x[0])) #endif BOOL FileTimeToDateTimeString( LPFILETIME pft, LPTSTR pszBuf, UINT cchBuf) { SYSTEMTIME st; int cch; FileTimeToLocalFileTime(pft, pft); if (FileTimeToSystemTime(pft, &st)) { cch = GetDateFormat(LOCALE_USER_DEFAULT, DATE_SHORTDATE, &st, NULL, pszBuf, cchBuf); if (cch > 0) { cchBuf -= cch; pszBuf += cch - 1; *pszBuf++ = TEXT(' '); *pszBuf = 0; // (in case GetTimeFormat doesn't add anything) cchBuf--; GetTimeFormat(LOCALE_USER_DEFAULT, TIME_NOSECONDS, &st, NULL, pszBuf, cchBuf); return TRUE; } } return FALSE; } INT __cdecl ModuleEntry() { TCHAR szTitle[32]; LARGE_INTEGER Time = USER_SHARED_DATA->SystemExpirationDate; if (LoadString(GetModuleHandle(NULL), IDS_APPTITLE, szTitle, ARRAYSIZE(szTitle))) { if (Time.QuadPart) { TCHAR szExtra[128]; TCHAR szTime[128]; if (FileTimeToDateTimeString((PFILETIME)&Time, szTime, ARRAYSIZE(szTime)) && LoadString(GetModuleHandle(NULL), IDS_EVALUATION, szExtra, ARRAYSIZE(szExtra))) { StringCchCat(szExtra, ARRAYSIZE(szExtra), szTime); ShellAbout(NULL, szTitle, szExtra, NULL); } } else { ShellAbout(NULL, szTitle, NULL, NULL); } } return 0; }
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winver is a very complex program
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/s
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It doesn't really need to be.
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Actually I'm surprised that winver is that complex.
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All it really needs to do is wrap ShellAboutW. (edited)
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It might've accounted several errors, seeing a few here.
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On another note, it may be awhile before we hear from @the Door guy again. Apparently all Internet access in Kazakhstan has been shut down.
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 16:01
Really?
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What kind of twisted fate is that?
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scuffed
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win32
On another note, it may be awhile before we hear from @the Door guy again. Apparently all Internet access in Kazakhstan has been shut down.
ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 16:01
oh
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 16:01
By Valerie Hopkins and Ivan Nechepurenko
Anger sparked by a gas price increase in the resource-rich Central Asian nation has swelled despite concessions from the ruling party and a strict state of emergency.
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Protests over fuel prices are raging for a second day despite a state of emergency in some areas.
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this is giving me an idea or two
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the framerate in this bootscreen
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jesus
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How about codename Astana? I think Nur-Sultan is a dumb name for a city anyway.
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 16:03
yes. we can clearly see the framerate with a still image
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oh just implying THIS bootscreen has a pretty smooth framerate
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just imagine it
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this one
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betajyst sent the code to it iirc?
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so i could do something
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 16:04
also the yellow color is wrong
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it's fading
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 16:04
it's literally brown
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it's faded
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i took the screenshot while it was fading
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Oh it's just an authortarian country.
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At least Russia will have the sense to not rename Moscow "Putingrad" like the Kazakhs did with Astana and Nursultan.
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Amazing, seems the soviet regime is still alive and well even without the flag.
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:10
The protests are fucking brutal
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37902428 when
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:11
They stormed the government buildings good
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Not now.
The protests are fucking brutal
Not that much when put into scale.
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:12
Literally stripping weapons off police
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MassClaw
Not now.
The protests are fucking brutal
Not that much when put into scale.
Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:12
For an increase in price of gas this is kinda too much
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Sometimes I feel like this bs is kinda coordinated
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It seems it's about something else too.
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yea there gotta be something else to this
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no way people are actually going this far over mf gas prices 💀
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:13
Yes and the gas price increase might be just no more than a formal excuse
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At last check, Kazakh government was aligned with... big bad Rossiya!!!!
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And guess who doesn't like that
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:13
Well russians apparently got their il-76's in there already.. (edited)
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Ximonite
no way people are actually going this far over mf gas prices 💀
Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:14
The price got reduced in half
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They still proceeded to attempt overthrowing the government
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Lol
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@Vruh 2 go to #lounge please
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:14
It's definitely something more than this
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oh sorry
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it's ok. just don't want random windows xp things in the middle of this kind of conversation
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:15
Door257 is kazakh right?
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yea
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Betajyst4094
It's definitely something more than this
The regime is probably the one at question.
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:15
Damn
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Good luck to the dude and his family
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Kazakhstan has been one of the most stable parts of CIS... until this erupted.
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So it is odd.
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:16
It is, it is
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Their party wasn't so bad, at least judging from what my friend says
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I've got showed some videos and dam is brutal.
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It's just strangely leaning too much onto russia, evident on their vaccine supplies and what not, most of the popular ones are alien to the rest of the world.
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 16:21
Haven't looked too much into this but anything is possible. at least it's obviously of more external nature (edited)
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Ximonite
no way people are actually going this far over mf gas prices 💀
Yeah wtf
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On another note, it may be awhile before we hear from @the Door guy again. Apparently all Internet access in Kazakhstan has been shut down.
the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:06
Goddamn right
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Im finally fucking back bitches!!
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I knew about the protests
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Betajyst4094
They stormed the government buildings good
wish we had that much balls. we should have done even a larger scale protest years ago
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the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:12
they tore down police cars
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but oh well. 106k firearms have been missing from the governments inventory for a while now so
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seems like another coup is brewing up (edited)
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the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:12
what are your thoughts on tokayev
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if your people go that far to protest, id say not really good
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lodocus
but oh well. 106k firearms have been missing from the governments inventory for a while now so
Just wait for them to report that billions of dollars are missing. Then something will happen within a few days, as has happened in the US (9/10/01) and Canada (May 2013; not nearly as bad, but a large senator expense scandal suddenly appeared making the former story die quickly with a whimper)
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lmao
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thats already a thing
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128m usd is missing from our reserve and government says they have no idea what happened
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can you fucking believe it?
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these motherfuckers dont know what happened to 128 million dollars sitting in reserve
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nah
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lol
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of course they do know what happened. they are just hiding what theyve done with it (edited)
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its also kinda interesting how around 90k firearms went missing before the july 15 coup too
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the Door guy
they tore down police cars
Wtf is this in the US?
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naw. kazakhistan
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Ohhhhh
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Okay
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Betajyst4094
Good luck to the dude and his family
the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:24
i was and am home this entire time (edited)
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Stay safe there mate
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the Door guy
they tore down police cars
This has also happened here, but usually during Stanley Cup Conference Finals or Stanley Cup Finals.
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the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:25
btw theres now a policy for today wehre you cant go outside from 11 pm to 7 am (edited)
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MassClaw
Oh it's just an authortarian country.
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:25
Same with Saudi Arabia and Egypt
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basically middle east and eastern bloc entirely
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At least Russia will have the sense to not rename Moscow "Putingrad" like the Kazakhs did with Astana and Nursultan.
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:26
What was the name of those cities in Kazakhstan before they were renamed that
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the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:26
astana
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win32
At last check, Kazakh government was aligned with... big bad Rossiya!!!!
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:26
Egypt is aligned with the United States so
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:)
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the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:26
before astana, celinagrad i think?
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:27
Huh
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DeRosenberg
Egypt is aligned with the United States so
id never trust those bastards
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the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:27
it was turned astana in 1998
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lodocus
id never trust those bastards
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:27
Who?
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us always gets into action, fucks shit up even more and leaves
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:27
Ooh yeah
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So you trust Russia then or nobody?
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Just a question
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Canada has had problems with tariffs and other policy, like the Michigan governor who tried to shut down pipelines that supply much of Ontario's gas.
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nobody really
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:28
Eh I understand
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I mean
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not even my own country
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:28
Both the United States and Russia are problematic
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I mean their governments
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yeah
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the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:29
it really fucking feels great to be finally back to internet again
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:29
Wait it's back now?
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the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:30
it was down all day (almost)
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Obama's strong support for fracking caused a recession in Canada, Russia and other oil producing states in the mid 2010s, causing the Canadian dollar to lose about 25% of its value.
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:30
Oh
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the Door guy
it was down all day (almost)
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:30
Glad you're okay dude
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the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:30
when i woke up at 5pm it was down
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rn its 12 am
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its on
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 18:30
how did you wake up at 5pm lol
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ImSwordQueen
how did you wake up at 5pm lol
the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:31
different sleep schedules (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 05/01/2022 18:31
at least it isn't as bad when i woke up at 8pm
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MassClaw
Amazing, seems the soviet regime is still alive and well even without the flag.
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:31
And without the communist stuff of course
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I mean
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I don't know
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ImSwordQueen
at least it isn't as bad when i woke up at 8pm
the Door guy 05/01/2022 18:31
not bad
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win32
Obama's strong support for fracking caused a recession in Canada, Russia and other oil producing states in the mid 2010s, causing the Canadian dollar to lose about 25% of its value.
i mean cccp's collapse wasnt only horrible for the entirety of eastern block, it kinda killed america as well. without the big scary reds to fight, people turned on each other.
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 18:34
USSR
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I mean at least the people in Eastern Europe are free from communism (edited)
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They're still under tyranny, but at least there's electricity and the internet now lol
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Not exactly, Kosovo had rolling blackouts recently
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But that is not because of communist stupidity. Germany is decommissioning nuclear plants and similar factors have resulted in electricity shortages across the EU. (edited)
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i guess serbia was right after all?
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docR
They're still under tyranny, but at least there's electricity and the internet now lol
the Door guy 05/01/2022 20:02
we always had electricity today
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just not internet
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still wont forget the time they bombed the bazaar and the hospital full of civilians in sarajevo
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but well, nato dropped over 1000 bombs (around 10k tons of explosive material) containing depleted uranium over serbian civilian population on august 30 1995
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radioactive material released into the environment is impossible to determine but i believe its still on the rise
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neither side is good. everyone dies and nobody wins.
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but well, nato dropped over 1000 bombs (around 10k tons of explosive material) containing depleted uranium over serbian civilian population on august 30 1995
#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:09
what about the bombing in 1999?
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NATO was also responsible for that
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24 march bombing?
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:10
Yeah
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lasted till June 10th (edited)
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mhm
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its just soul crushing how these motherfuckers do whatever they want and get away with it without consequences
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lodocus
i guess serbia was right after all?
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:14
About what?
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Serbia and Croatia got into a war back then
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Croatia wants to be independent, Serbia is pissed, did a lot of crimes and stuff
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Yeah I heard that from someone who's Croatian in a server I'm in
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DeRosenberg
About what?
telling alija that theyve made a mistake taking side with nato and germany
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:16
Huh
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DeRosenberg
Yeah I heard that from someone who's Croatian in a server I'm in
#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:16
Croats and Serbs still don't get along
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even after all these years
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:17
Yeah
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no wonder
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:17
I heard that Serbia wants Greater Serbia
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:17
even though I live in Serbia, I don't even know what our president even wants
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:18
Kosovo troll
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:18
even back in the 90s, he made huge claims about a 'great Serbia'
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:18
I have no problem with Serbs and Croats obviously
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:18
I personally don't have problems with Croats
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Betajyst4094
Kosovo troll
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:18
Egypt recognised Kosovo in 2013
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Also with Canada, US, Nordic Countries, Albania, Turkey, South Korea, Japan, Israel, etc
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:19
No shi
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#RadMorning
even back in the 90s, he made huge claims about a 'great Serbia'
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:20
I remember a claim recently, saying that "Serbians" want war (edited)
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:21
let me guess - because of Kosovo?
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:21
Idk
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They weren't specific about it
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Oh wait
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Because of their Serbian world it seems
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"Or else they'll "go extinct""
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im afraid that the eastern bloc and middle east might continue living in hatred, conflict and tyranny for more decades to come
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:24
Same
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something has to change
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:24
I agree
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:24
I have a question
20:24
Should Kosovo become it's own state?
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:25
I have no idea
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i dont know either
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#RadMorning 05/01/2022 20:26
No one educated me regarding that topic
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I feel a lot of people just... don't know what the whole ordeal is about
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same. all i know about kosovo is that nato bombed the shit out of it in 1999
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i think theyve used depleted uranium during those bombings too
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these ammunitions supposed to be forbidden but
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uuhhhh
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haha! lole!!
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:31
America loves em sum war crimes lol
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Many fucking war crimes
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whatever lets just move on with life as usual!!
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:31
Let's not talk about napalm heeheehaa
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White phosphorus hee
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im telling you man. they just intervene with conflicts and just cause even more ruckus and chaos and fucking leave it at that
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i have nothing against its people but those ruthless fuckers in power?
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:34
They will make sure there is chaos and discord in middle east. They don't want Muslim countries striving, hot take..
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not a hot take
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its for real
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:36
Weird how Israel's doing so fine amongst Palestine, Pakistan and etc, where shit's ripping itself apart troll
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Sorry for the anti Semitism, but its kinda facts
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i dont know which side is right. both got proper arguments against each other
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:38
Jews were accepted by these countries as refugees after what ww2 did to them and guess what, they thought the lands are now their property (edited)
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And UN helped em "secure" it (rip it out of Palestine)
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Betajyst4094
Sorry for the anti Semitism, but its kinda facts
anti Zionism, but not anti Semitism. Many zionist groups are trying to conflate any criticism of Israel with criticism of Jews, even though many orthodox Jews are not zionist.
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back in 60s, right?
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:39
I don't like Zionists at all
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Nothing against Jews in general (edited)
20:40
But that was really scummy
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US are constantly helping out these people and even financing their projects (I.e. iron dome) (edited)
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In fact Israel's government is pretty right wing
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Betajyst4094
US are constantly helping out these people and even financing their projects (I.e. iron dome) (edited)
You must agree to not support BDS movements to get some state government contracts
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:42
It probably goes much deeper
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Betajyst4094
Weird how Israel's doing so fine amongst Palestine, Pakistan and etc, where shit's ripping itself apart troll
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:43
Shit also happen in Egypt
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Western countries are better
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For me
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Expect for NA
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:44
On is oily. Muslim countries in general aren't doing too well rn
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:44
Yea
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:44
Besides maybe Jordania and UAE
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does israel count as a western country?
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:45
What about Kuwait
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stellar
does israel count as a western country?
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:45
Yes
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:45
UAE is probably more secular than ever tho
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not as much but compared to what they used to be, yeah
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:46
Wdym
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uae is more secular than ever
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:47
I fucking hate how the US put dictatorships in South America
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Like Chile, Brazil, etc
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They even supported it
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Would be better if the US didn't exist
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Monroe Doctrine sez: "we own the Western Hemisphere"
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:51
Jk
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lololol
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troll
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nah. not a jk
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its for real
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:52
I thought it would be stupid to say that
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For all of the whining about foreign entities trying to influence American elections, Obama and Clinton endorsed Trudeau for PM this year.
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:53
Countries outside of the EU are less problematic
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Like Norway and Switzerland
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Those are cool
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For all of the whining about foreign entities trying to influence American elections, Obama and Clinton endorsed Trudeau for PM this year.
kinda interesting how the "foreign forces" apparently put americas (a super-nation) freedom to danger all the way from the other side of the pacific ocean
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They even supported it
Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:55
Well the whole apartheid thing, and their fetish of causing overthrows in 3rd world countries
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US is trying to be something they are not
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this
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:55
They supported a military junta at one point in Greece
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1967
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:56
Obviously its fishy to me
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Well the whole apartheid thing, and their fetish of causing overthrows in 3rd world countries
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:57
I mean the USSR and US supported the Free Officers movement that overthrow the Kingdom of Egypt
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1952
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:57
They probably have their hands in the tumults in Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan (rn)
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win32
For all of the whining about foreign entities trying to influence American elections, Obama and Clinton endorsed Trudeau for PM this year.
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:57
I heard Trudeau isn't doing good recently
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:57
Tikhanovskaya is a left wing, right? (edited)
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@the Door guy Yo pal, sorry for the ping but is Nazarbaev out of the game?
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 20:59
@win32 how is Canada doing rn?
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Betajyst4094
Tikhanovskaya is a left wing, right? (edited)
Economically, farther right than Lukashenko. Belarus is actually quite socialist with most major companies still being owned by the state
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 20:59
Indeed it is
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And pretty loyal to Russia
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That's why they helping their 'batka'
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If not for their intervention, Lukashenko would be out long ago (edited)
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DeRosenberg
I heard Trudeau isn't doing good recently
He was never doing good. Instead of taking a path of financial stability he started spending, spending right away, forced a carbon tax in several provinces and allied himself (just like Harper) with the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine
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Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 21:02
Inb4 the same pattern is repeating with Kazakhstan
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win32
He was never doing good. Instead of taking a path of financial stability he started spending, spending right away, forced a carbon tax in several provinces and allied himself (just like Harper) with the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine
DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 21:03
I mean everybody is allied with the US
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win32
He was never doing good. Instead of taking a path of financial stability he started spending, spending right away, forced a carbon tax in several provinces and allied himself (just like Harper) with the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine
Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 21:03
Yea that's a sketchy way of managing things lol
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 21:03
But otherwise yeah, I understand
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pension plan contribution rates are going to go up a fair bit along with the carbon tax this year. Quebec is spared somewhat because we are not on the CPP and have a different carbon pricing system, but if things are transported through other provinces, you still have to pay the higher carbon tax rates.
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 21:05
I heard from somebody that Quebec is corrupted or something
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And wants to go to the US
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I wouldn't personally recommend him the US?
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But it's his choice
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I mean I was looking forward to the us but now I don't think so
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pension plan contribution rates are going to go up a fair bit along with the carbon tax this year. Quebec is spared somewhat because we are not on the CPP and have a different carbon pricing system, but if things are transported through other provinces, you still have to pay the higher carbon tax rates.
Betajyst4094 05/01/2022 21:05
We lead the rate anyway lol
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DeRosenberg
I heard from somebody that Quebec is corrupted or something
It certainly is. Trying to find a place that is not is a real challenge.
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Several people from this server want me to move to the US.
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 21:07
Although the US is corrupted just like Canada
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Going back to what I said just above. Pentagon leads the charge.
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But I also remember watching channel 11 from NYC and seeing the ads against NJ senator Bob Menendez which said he was found guilty of corruption. However, he continued to run and win elections.
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 21:09
Oh Christ
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Oh it's WPIX
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I know a few Americans that want to move to Canada but I don't because I search for more info and stuff
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I guess
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They dropped the charges, but was subjected to a decision by the Senate ethics committee which included this info:
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DeRosenberg
Although the US is corrupted just like Canada
i firmly believe canada is less corrupted than america (edited)
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 21:12
I think so
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It probably is, I still have some belief in the political and judicial systems of this country, some of the time.
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and north americas corruption can barely be considered corruption compared to the south america, africa and far east (edited)
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you are very lucky to live in canada. i dont mean you shouldnt learn more about what is actually going on and who is right in the world of politics of course, but do not let these stuff possibly hold you back from what you want to achieve in life (edited)
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DeRosenberg 05/01/2022 21:15
Western US and Canada
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But they are damn expensive
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Like this California here
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And British Columbia
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@the Door guy Yo pal, sorry for the ping but is Nazarbaev out of the game?
the Door guy 05/01/2022 21:33
i think
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VMware Workstation 15 doesn't work on latest Linux kernel
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angris
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Now I'm ready to start my new life
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in Detroit
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I heard it's much safer than Knoxville, TN.
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Tomorrow morning I start packing my bags.
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he’s drunk, everyone
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I bought 9 acres of property there already
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No one can stop win32
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Unless you are Windows 9x
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Then your 16 bit code makes no sense to me
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he’s drunk, everyone
Betajyst4094 06/01/2022 07:03
At least not in a state of delirium
07:03
I feel delirious as fuck
07:03
Did I catch something
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I could start signing some jingles too in this chat if requested
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Betajyst4094 06/01/2022 07:04
Some Nordic atnhems
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Those aren't interesting to me, unfortunately
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Betajyst4094 06/01/2022 07:08
Attans..
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I am also too shy somehow
07:09
I don't want to break into "See all you want to see Turn on Service Electric" In this chat either
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RaduTek
VMware Workstation 15 doesn't work on latest Linux kernel
linux moment
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compat always breaks with older propietary shit
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thank you stallman, very cool
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win32
I don't want to break into "See all you want to see Turn on Service Electric" In this chat either
Betajyst4094 06/01/2022 07:16
Why not
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Sticker
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I just realized that I have a course that is supposed to start in like 38 hours and I haven't heard a damn thing of what it's supposed to be about
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And also, I need to start learning rayn tracing
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win32
in Detroit
DeRosenberg 06/01/2022 09:03
For real?
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Deformisani SAS 06/01/2022 11:23
wassup?
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Deleted User 06/01/2022 11:23
hi
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the Door guy 06/01/2022 11:36
my moyher told me internet and bank will be off till monday
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i was able to get on internet just now bc uhh idk
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Deleted User 06/01/2022 11:38
ok
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DeRosenberg 06/01/2022 14:33
Wait are you actually moving to Detroit or something @win32
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Just wondering
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Deformisani SAS 06/01/2022 14:43
if anyone wants their discord client to be smooth either use ripcord or lightcord. (btw lightcord speed is night and day diffrence) (edited)
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DeRosenberg
Wait are you actually moving to Detroit or something @win32
He is not (edited)
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DeRosenberg 06/01/2022 15:43
Oh
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I'm stupid
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Not stupid at all.
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You're not stupid, we just fool around a lot in here
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DeRosenberg 06/01/2022 15:45
Alright
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I was being serious at that time of day.
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You will note that my level of intoxication has declined since then.
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.......
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Win32 goin be ballin off 8 mile and gratiot street
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😳
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#RadMorning 06/01/2022 21:38
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Well...
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DeRosenberg 06/01/2022 21:39
Goo
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goo goo
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ga ga
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^google in 2022
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#RadMorning 07/01/2022 13:05
Hiya!
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 13:05
hi
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 14:00
Hi
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Betajyst4094 07/01/2022 14:59
Ninja style (edited)
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 14:59
what
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#RadMorning 07/01/2022 15:21
'Hiya' sounds like a ninja
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MEE6 Avatars are a set of 8,888 unique on-chain generated NFT avatars living on the Ethereum blockchain. MEE6 is a Discord bot used by more than 16 millions servers.
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oh fuck no
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 16:05
don't use mee6
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-warn @RaduTek promoting NFT propaganda ☭
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I don't use any bots :))
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dynoSuccess RaduTek#2288 has been warned.
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i wasn't promoting such shit
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You linked it, Comrade
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I'm just kidding, btw
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Ik
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lol
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I'm not pure anymore (edited)
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Radu got a taste of Brazil
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A tiny sample like those from supermarkets
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Free sample yes
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I always hate when people approach me to give me stupid flyers or product samples
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I just don't care
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 16:09
why not
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product samples rock
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they're generally either crappy
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 16:10
there was this perfume shop my sister used to force me to pass by just for free samples lol
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or usually those flyers are something about God
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 16:10
it's a really good shop though so i guess it's fine
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RaduTek
or usually those flyers are something about God
Deleted User 07/01/2022 16:10
what
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fucking hell imagine your laptop not getting really hot when plugging in to charge
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Deleted User
what
I've seen some really stupid antivaxx flyers handed in front of a church by some people unaffiliated to the church
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I've also seen one that was against barcodes on products saying they were tracking us using them or whatever
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RaduTek
I've also seen one that was against barcodes on products saying they were tracking us using them or whatever
#RadMorning 07/01/2022 16:11
That one is really bullshit
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RaduTek
I've seen some really stupid antivaxx flyers handed in front of a church by some people unaffiliated to the church
#RadMorning 07/01/2022 16:11
this one is more/less bullshit (edited)
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more actually
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because somebody looked at the EAN-8 barcode and found that the 3 vertical lines that delimit the code and separate the 2 parts might match with the encoding for the number 6 (for the first half though)
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RaduTek
I've seen some really stupid antivaxx flyers handed in front of a church by some people unaffiliated to the church
Yep that's dumb
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antivaxxers use autism as the reason to not vaccinate their kids
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almost all the time
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see those lines that protrude to the numbers
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that's like the only reason
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Scamdisk
antivaxxers use autism as the reason to not vaccinate their kids
#RadMorning 07/01/2022 16:13
That is really dumb
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RaduTek
see those lines that protrude to the numbers
some claim those mean 666
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autism is treated like the worst thing in the world
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when it's not
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also don't get me started on Autism Speaks
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antivaxxers use autism as the reason to not vaccinate their kids
I did not get a measles vaccine for that reason, but I did get every other one
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and some claim even the "inventor of barcodes" acknowledged to have done it intentionally 1) there are many barcode standards made by many companies 2) they're released by companies, not one individual 3) if somebody makes something evil, it doesn't need to contain 666, sign of beast or whatever (in real life, people can just hide things, they don't have to leave traces for "internet heroes" to elucidate the evil) (edited)
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some people really think they're living in a movie, where everything has hidden meanings that need to be elucidated
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Have you guys seen the RCA barcode design? groovy
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nice pun
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Anyway I think the company I worked for was assigned a block that started with 69 for their barcodes. Can't remember the rest...
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69
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nice
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“Din punct de vedere bioenergetic, prin activarea codurilor de bare, se elibereaza campuri care viciaza armonia produsului”, spune Ölwin Pichler, seful Centrului de Formare in Stiintele Naturale din Wolfratshausen
Some romanian news article from a supposedly trusted source: translated: "From a bioenergetic perspective, by activating barcodes, fields are released that break the product's armony" says Ölwin Pichler, supposedly boss of some nature science center thing
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the fucking barcodes are read by light
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specifically Red light
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what fucking fields is he talking about??
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Oh my god KEKW
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RaduTek
some claim those mean 666
Deleted User 07/01/2022 16:20
lmaooooooo what
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that is super dumb lol
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this is why they say that
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see in the 2nd half, 6 is 2 thin vertical lines
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and the delimiter lines are also 2 thin vertical lines
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so obviously some dumbass that was capable enough to count the number of lines thought they're doing this because Satan
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RaduTek
this is why they say that
Yes
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RaduTek
this is why they say that
#RadMorning 07/01/2022 16:29
wow so creepy
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and I found an article that says that when the biblical apocalypse will come we'll be stamped with QR codes and have chips with barcodes on it
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🤦‍♂️
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this is why we can't have nice things
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#RadMorning 07/01/2022 16:30
🤦‍♂️
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we'll be fucked till the boomers fade away
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Covid wiped a few of them
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 16:33
????
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you want your grandparents dead?
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that's a very wrong thing to say, regardless of how they act
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I don't want
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And it is unfortunate
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 16:34
appreciate them while you can :(
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RaduTek
some claim those mean 666
what
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how
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how the actual fuck?
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oh
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lmao
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win32
I did not get a measles vaccine for that reason, but I did get every other one
wait wtf even if you did believe that shit, wouldn't that not matter since you're already on the spectrum?
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Ximonite
wait wtf even if you did believe that shit, wouldn't that not matter since you're already on the spectrum?
ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 17:05
you can't get autism if you are already autistic
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Betajyst4094 07/01/2022 17:12
You guys do know that autism can't be acquired post embryonic state right? (edited)
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yea
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and you do know this is a joke
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problem
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Betajyst4094 07/01/2022 17:13
I know, was just making sure it's all irony
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looks like you can get autism in a "post embryonic state"
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Betajyst4094 07/01/2022 17:13
I have met people who believe autism can be acquired from vaccines, that's where I lost faith..
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stellar
looks like you can get autism in a "post embryonic state"
Betajyst4094 07/01/2022 17:13
What?
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nvm
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Betajyst4094
I have met people who believe autism can be acquired from vaccines, that's where I lost faith..
bruhmoment
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i haven't met anyone like that yet thankfully
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Betajyst4094 07/01/2022 17:13
These people are older than me
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Some by decade
17:14
I'm tired of the fake conspiracy bullshit getting distributed in whatsapp and facebook by these tinfoil hatters (edited)
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One can only get so illiterate
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And people fall for it. can't really blame for that though (edited)
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wait wtf even if you did believe that shit, wouldn't that not matter since you're already on the spectrum?
Those are administered so young that it wouldn't have been my choice. I think at around 12 months or less. (edited)
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I wasn't known to be autistic until 2 or 3.
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Anyway I see that a second dose did the job in Canada when it was introduced in 1997. (edited)
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I have met people who believe autism can be acquired from vaccines, that's where I lost faith..
So I wouldn't be neurodivergent had I dodged those cursed vaccines for school as a kid? flush
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Jk obviously
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:16
@Ximonite is your user pfp (not server one) custom drawn?
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:20
probably piccrew
22:20
i bet it's piccrew
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not the picrew one
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:20
fuck
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:20
yeah
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user pfp
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:21
oh user pfp
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my server pfp is picrew tho
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:21
i meant user one
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:21
i haven't seen the user one
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yea ik
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ImSwordQueen
i haven't seen the user one
should appear when you look at my profile
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:21
go to BW, easy
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:22
i saw it
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to answer the original question, my gf found a drawing of a couple that looks like us, so we set our pfps to the faces of the characters
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:26
that's cute
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:26
oh. cute
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#RadMorning 07/01/2022 22:26
:D
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:27
wish i was in love :(( (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:27
you will find one someday (edited)
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:27
don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis
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ImSwordQueen
you will find one someday (edited)
Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:27
true i guess
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Deleted User
don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis
disable it then
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:28
how
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:28
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oh
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Deleted User
how
it's in Text & Images in discord settings
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:29
o h
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i am certainly dumb (edited)
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oh damn she actually checks wls 👀 😲
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didn't expect
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also I hope you guys find someone someday
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:42
thanks
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:44
wtf discord finally made gifs not reset if you switch accounts
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neato
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cool
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:47
have you all noticed that shroomer has been really inactive lately
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:47
not just him
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shroomer lost his account iirc
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:48
wait how
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:48
what
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He got locked out of his account and started a new one which isn't in this server yet
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:48
how does someone get locked out of their acc
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i get that losing 2fa codes is really easy but i didn't except to be that easy
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He is also flunking all of his classes so he probably needs to shift gears from discord
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win32
He is also flunking all of his classes so he probably needs to shift gears from discord
ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:49
yeah that
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actually
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we lost all advisors lately
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:51
what even is the role of an advisor
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pls no simple answer (aka give advice)
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:52
a between to moderator and not having powers
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:52
yeah but why??
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doesn't this server have a large enough mod team
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ImSwordQueen
we lost all advisors lately
ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:53
huh nvm. massclaw is one
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:53
it's not like much issues arise everyday anyway and we're not even a hundered people
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(personal opinion ofc so don't go killing me, your server = your rules)
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:54
the server is semi public at this point
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:54
is it
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ImSwordQueen 07/01/2022 22:54
yeah
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the invite isn't that spread around
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:55
i personally prefer it that way
22:55
big servers are a trouble to keep up with and i alr can't keep up here
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actually scratch that, i can't keep up with discord in general and guess what i only have 2 servers
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Deleted User
big servers are a trouble to keep up with and i alr can't keep up here
Yep
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That and there's more nonsense
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:57
(if i disappear after jan 10 it's no surprise as school starts again. and i expect that to happen.)
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I'm happy to say this server I'd pretty decently well behaved
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Deleted User 07/01/2022 22:57
yeah
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Deleted User
big servers are a trouble to keep up with and i alr can't keep up here
DeRosenberg 07/01/2022 23:20
Big servers are a pain to deal with
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suicide and death
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is what i have to say
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chip da ripper
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Vruh 2
chip da ripper
interior crocodile alligator i drive a chevrolet movie theater
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l
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a
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b
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i need to figure out how to set git up before i absurdly fuck up my code
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word
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 03:49
Once again I wake up at 4 am
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And I find a giant fucking orange under my pillow
what 1
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Did I get drunk
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I like oranges though, no problem
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what
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I just about manage to not do that
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why is my watermark
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why
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the Door guy 08/01/2022 03:59
doors back, maybe? possibly?
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In private/windows/base/client/module.c I recommend that you remove this if statement
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Vruh 2
what
Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 03:59
I don't know
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win32
In private/windows/base/client/module.c I recommend that you remove this if statement
elaborate further
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 04:00
I love oranges, might as well cut and devour this stuff
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Vruh 2
elaborate further
It will make the linker work faster and better. It's absolutely not about getting revenge on elmo
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no comments
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 04:01
Oh that what wasn't to me
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it was (edited)
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 04:01
Ah
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win32
It will make the linker work faster and better. It's absolutely not about getting revenge on elmo
Vista x64 has this code too, I'm removing it as well.
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 04:02
Oranges smell good. They also have 1-nonanol in their peel
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please spotify enough ads
04:03
2pacalypse now
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now for whatever reason razzle doesn't want to compile win32k
04:07
i already fixed the watermark like 30 minutes ago
04:07
but razzle insists on not fucking compiling
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 04:21
This orange is good
04:22
Really good stuff
04:22
Who bought it??
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oh yeah tomorrow i'll try getting an iso uploaded of xp 5.2
04:22
i need winlogon stripped of wpa though
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 04:23
Genuinely weirded out rn
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maybe the damn tooth fairy put it there
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Everyone: @win5270 is drunk
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 04:24
If I were to be drunk, I'd have a nasty headache keeping me sure
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Nice timing
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win32
Everyone: @win5270 is drunk
no
04:24
i dont drink
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 04:24
I guess I got trolled
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But everyone knows my love for oranges
04:25
Wtf...
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win5270
maybe the damn tooth fairy put it there
Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 04:25
She wouldn't like my caries
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the Door guy 08/01/2022 04:37
how do i get access to pshed.dll
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it runs in ring 0
04:37
y'all run in ring 3
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ImSwordQueen
i get that losing 2fa codes is really easy but i didn't except to be that easy
get a new phone and forget to get your backup codes off the old one before getting rid of it
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i lost a decent amount of bitcoin recently that way
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Wonder what you would call those things at the bottom...
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#RadMorning 08/01/2022 09:31
gm
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Deleted User 08/01/2022 09:37
bmw
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Deleted User 08/01/2022 11:30
Morning, even though now it's 12pm
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Captchas in the future...
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oh moment
11:35
🤦‍♂️
11:35
imagine if businesses would get that treating their workers like humans and paying them well makes them work better
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RaduTek
Captchas in the future...
god
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Michael
get a new phone and forget to get your backup codes off the old one before getting rid of it
ImSwordQueen 08/01/2022 13:08
oh
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It comes at a huge cost so just keep an eye on it if you wish to activate it.
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 08/01/2022 14:11
bruh moment from youtube: automatically created chapters
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RaduTek
Captchas in the future...
Deleted User 08/01/2022 15:02
lol now i see that pic is so blur
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installed the windows terminal on ltsc and customized powershell
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b l u e
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#RadMorning 08/01/2022 16:08
y no OEM
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cause its not an OEM pc
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#RadMorning 08/01/2022 16:08
alrighty
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null null using null null with null null score:
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RaduTek
Captchas in the future...
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huehuehue
🅱️ 3
🅰️ 3
🇸 3
🇪 3
🇩 3
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you can literally splatter different build setups on xp
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the file is winntbbu
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this is 2428's winntbbu
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Betajyst4094 08/01/2022 19:27
I've done that before
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With 2296's ntbbu
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docR
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 08/01/2022 19:34
"Ewwww daddy you're scaring people"
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or smth like that
20:05
hmm
20:05
that flag looks familiar
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Deleted User
"Ewwww daddy you're scaring people"
Oh daddy. You're embarassing me!
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Deleted User 08/01/2022 20:10
im not really a spongebob veteran
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just enjoyer
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actually i know more than just an enjoyer
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watched 2 full seasons mostly
21:18
i'm not a trolla i just troll a lot
21:21
2474 wrapper my ass
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animates 3 times now
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just like 2474
21:31
here's it in comparison
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ImSwordQueen 08/01/2022 21:42
didn't microsoft tried doing that with longhorn as well?
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with the animation
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Deleted User 08/01/2022 21:45
no?
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the flag flew inwards with lh but it didn't animate in this way
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ImSwordQueen 08/01/2022 22:03
obv a different flag
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but still an animated flag
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didn't microsoft tried doing that with longhorn as well?
kind of
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it animated from the top
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but not quite this
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this looks cooler troll
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Vruh 2
it animated from the top
Deleted User 08/01/2022 22:39
yeah, that
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that's what i meant by flew inwards
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looks like swordking didn't get what i mean
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#RadMorning 09/01/2022 09:05
gm
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Good morning
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Deleted User 09/01/2022 10:37
Morning
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гуд морнинг
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скип BOT 09/01/2022 11:00
4ktroll
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Good afternoon
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Hacked a PS2 SingStar USB microphone adapter to use as a stereo audio input interface
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dongle moment
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I wish my laptop's manufacturer didn't disable the jack retasking feature of the audio chip
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otherwhise I could've used the audio chip's built in ADC
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right now I can only do 1 channel microphone input through that jack using a splitter adapter
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well frankly it's by the same company that can't make their OS 100% consistent
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but why disable a feature that's built in to the chip, they put extra work to do that
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(probably not as they had to configure the chip anyways for the speakers and microphones)
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I initially bought a cheap USB sound card for this, but it turned out to be a piece of shit
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only mono audio input
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and the thing lacks DC blocking capacitors on the audio output so it feeds 2.8 V DC to headphones for no other reason than to ensure they'll blow up
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dongle moment
I should make a photo of my dongle collection
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 09/01/2022 19:32
when return youtube dislike does not return dislike
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DeRosenberg 09/01/2022 19:36
Refresh it
19:36
Or restart your browser
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They are just taking advantage of the moment, but why would you even try this with such a property, maybe it's just experimentation.
don't use mee6
It's a staple to walk by, it wasn't a great bot to begin with.
we lost all advisors lately
It really haven't changed, some just moved up the chain.
have you all noticed that shroomer has been really inactive lately
It's abnormal but it's was the holiday season and other factors to consider for the disappearance.
I've also seen one that was against barcodes on products saying they were tracking us using them or whatever
Isn't identifying items the sole reason for their existance?
I'm tired of the fake conspiracy bullshit getting distributed in whatsapp and facebook by these tinfoil hatters
It keeps happening, but guess that's life for them.
Anyway I see that a second dose did the job in Canada when it was introduced in 1997.
Maybe it had more of a foundation than anyone would've believed back then.
don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis
Just disable it, it's for the better.
Refresh it
For disabled ratios, it now shows disabled likes and dislikes rather than showing zero.
(edited)
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Deleted User 09/01/2022 19:49
> don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis Just disable it, it's for the better.
I did
19:49
here, see :)
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Ah, thought you had some other issue where it switches back to being on since you switch accounts across multiple phones and apps or something like that.
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MassClaw
They are just taking advantage of the moment, but why would you even try this with such a property, maybe it's just experimentation.
don't use mee6
It's a staple to walk by, it wasn't a great bot to begin with.
we lost all advisors lately
It really haven't changed, some just moved up the chain.
have you all noticed that shroomer has been really inactive lately
It's abnormal but it's was the holiday season and other factors to consider for the disappearance.
I've also seen one that was against barcodes on products saying they were tracking us using them or whatever
Isn't identifying items the sole reason for their existance?
I'm tired of the fake conspiracy bullshit getting distributed in whatsapp and facebook by these tinfoil hatters
It keeps happening, but guess that's life for them.
Anyway I see that a second dose did the job in Canada when it was introduced in 1997.
Maybe it had more of a foundation than anyone would've believed back then.
don't i just hate discord auto transforming to emojis
Just disable it, it's for the better.
Refresh it
For disabled ratios, it now shows disabled likes and dislikes rather than showing zero.
(edited)
DeRosenberg 09/01/2022 19:53
Oh
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Deleted User 09/01/2022 19:54
well i do have my account on like 5 "devices" or something now
19:55
devices in quotes because it's just oses of the same things
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It's fine, as long as it's a different setup it vaguely counts.
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Deleted User 09/01/2022 19:56
i.e: 7 on my crap celeron laptop with chromium 7 (on a retired hdd) and debian with chromium my phone via the android client and on web as well + my ubuntu xfce4 desktop on my phone (which i'm currently on) my tab via the android client and on web (edited)
19:56
gee that's like 8 lol
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Yes that does count, it's probably better as is, seeing chromium caching it for more than a week if inactive.
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 09/01/2022 21:06
introducing the youtube mobile website on desktop chrome
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MahouShoujoNightcore 09/01/2022 21:07
love live fan 👀
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 09/01/2022 21:12
go to youtube -> right click and choose inspect -> enable device toolbar -> go to the mobile website -> close out of webtools
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ah yes kanal d (edited)
21:13
one of my grandmas loves turkish dramas
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Deleted User 09/01/2022 21:13
why would you want the mobile view on desktop
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 09/01/2022 21:13
just for a test, and its also an oversight from youtube (edited)
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i still keep around a 2019 version of youtube vanced because i prefer the 2019 mobile ui alot compared to the new stuff
21:14
it's nearing time to upgrade (edited)
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Vanced follows the same layout? that's a shame. (edited)
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timestamps don't work properly anymore
21:15
notifications don't work in the app
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sometimes it takes 5 minutes to load up the app
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Yes they are messing around with the description box behind the scenes. So expect changes. (edited)
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leaving vanced on and shutting off the screen makes it stop loading shit for 5 minutes
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Typical api stuff.
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on the other hand it's old 2019 mobile ui which was respectable at the least
21:16
with the comments on the bottom and description not being a box
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They are weirdly still at differentiating the desktop layout from the app one, as opposed to what they have said before about unifying them. Maybe that was just planned and didn't roll into production. (edited)
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RaduTek
one of my grandmas loves turkish dramas
one of my grandmas as well lmao (edited)
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Dell recently announced the XPS 13 Plus laptops featuring 12th-gen Intel processors and a new design. Here's everything we know about it.
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New Dell XPS do be looking hot ngl
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I think I know what my next laptop will be (edited)
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Though this will be years later from now
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That's what I'm curious about, the entire palmrest is glass
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So it could be a really huge trackpad
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has a 3050 ti, right?
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No, the XPS 13 doesn't come in dGPU variants iirc
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But if Intel advances with their GPUs we might see a newer Gen of the XPS 13 Plus with ARC graphics
21:55
I sure hope that they won't launch it with the touch function key row
21:55
Apple removed the touchbar for a reason
21:57
Also I wish it had Mini LED
22:01
Maybe waiting for the 2nd gen of it will make it a better buy
22:01
13th gen Intel when
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vanced is vanilla, but with extra options and no ads
22:26
i hold the opinion the youtube app is designed just fine, its a bit sketchier on the desktop side, though
22:26
i mean it hasn't changed that much since polyfill
22:27
it was the most functional between like 2009 and 2012
22:27
cosmic panda killed channel customization, but it was very functional. the last truly very functional desktop youtube
22:27
its more like netflix now
22:27
fine for just watching videos, but i'm not particularly compelled to interact with the community anymore
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758624777312141323/929777871369695342/2022-01-09_13-44-37.mp4 i fucked up the fadeout and the bitmap doesn't look very good (edited)
22:41
but here's this
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and apparently i forgot how the windows logo looks?
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lmfao
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ImSwordQueen 09/01/2022 22:56
Wtf based
22:56
Minecraft not having nfts??
22:56
So based
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It's a dying fad, man, it won't last for long just like signed stuff.
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kinda want to make a visual style like this
23:40
made this like 10 minutes ago out of the fucking nowhere
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Why is Twitter recommending me whores
03:38
It's not even a me issue
03:39
Tapping on it you just see endless comments from confused people that get these notifs
03:39
It's especially disturbing when Twitter says my age is between 13 and 65
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Someone, who is apparently 14, asked me if I was a "twitter femboy"!
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I can probably imagine some kid getting grounded since parents saw such notifs
03:47
And there is no fucking "not interested" button
03:48
Well there is a "show less often" option in the notifications tab in the app
03:48
But the notification vanishes after you block the person
03:49
🤬
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RaduTek
Why is Twitter recommending me whores
These are all new changes recently.
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Ah yes "improvements"
04:03
Microsoft literally say that they don't recommend the use of registry cleaner programs
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They do have some truth in them though.
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The latest version of the open source encryption software VeraCrypt brings back support for the operating systems Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8.
06:19
hmm yes
06:20
dropping support only to bring it back one month later
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this is a new one
06:35
reintroducing vista 7 and 8 support
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what fanatic puts spaces in their passwords
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maniac*
06:47
god fucking knows
06:48
all i know is that i have an officialbuilt 3790 pro
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Vruh 2
reintroducing vista 7 and 8 support
Anyone who ties an OS upgrade to an hardware upgrade will not be upgrading OSes because of the hardware crises. So Windows 7 stays. (edited)
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(means it would be closer to an actual retail iso)
06:48
with that being said i still don't have updated certs or anything so even though there is no timebomb you'd still be installing in 2021 date
06:49
and i don't feel like patching setup api thing
06:50
hmm fake xpclient
06:50
definitely not the branch xp 3790 would've been compiled in
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it would still been srv03rtm
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yeah
06:51
but hey
06:51
xpclient funny trol
06:52
and of course i fucking overwrote the decompiled winlogon
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damn did you just change branch without getting errors (edited)
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gotta get that compiled again
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Scamdisk
damn did you just change branch without getting errors (edited)
not only that
06:52
i got no errors on the first clean build
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bruh
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and my postbuild was absurdly fucked up
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inb4 because symbols
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yeah
06:52
because of symbols
06:53
actually no
06:53
symbols wouldn't break the final product
06:53
but my driver.cab managed to be 19mb
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driver.cab 19mb
06:53
bruh
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and then chkdsk wiped out all of the missing binaries out of binares.x86fre
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because i copied them over from windows 11 (edited)
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chkdsk
ofc
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otherwise i got a working base
06:54
i wish i could git the entire source tree
06:54
that'd take 9 years and it'd probably fuck up with line endings and kill the entire thing
06:54
i just wanted version control
06:55
trolla
06:55
since when does 7 come with consolas
06:56
oh wait
06:56
i installed vscode
06:56
that's why
06:56
me dumb
06:56
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834207032437243974/929949498220879922/unknown.png i've said it here before but i might do a visual style on this
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oh yeah theme service doesn't start on first boot
07:28
decompiled winlogon thing
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for me ik it didnt even start with og winlogon too
07:31
well patched og winlogon
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nah it starts with the og winlogon for me
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Vruh 2
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834207032437243974/929949498220879922/unknown.png i've said it here before but i might do a visual style on this
Betajyst4094 10/01/2022 07:31
Familiar
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yeah
07:31
it looks like jade
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Betajyst4094 10/01/2022 07:31
Where uoy find that?
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i made it
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Betajyst4094 10/01/2022 07:31
Ah, looks good
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actually theme service is horrendously broken in this
07:35
what the fuck
07:35
it worked once and now it's completely broken
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07:35
07:35
what the fuck even happened
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what in the fuck
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seriously broke
07:38
no idea why it did this
07:38
i literally had this decompiled winlogon on another source tree and that one worked fine with the exception of the first boot really
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bruh what
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i uninstalled yt vanced from my phone and it actually bricked the thing
09:05
it literally doesn't boot anymore
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bruh?
09:05
how the fuck would uninstalling yt vanced do that
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i have no idea
09:06
the last thing i saw before rebooting and never starting up again was "this is a system app you cannot uninstall it"
09:06
so of course
09:06
i uninstalled it
09:06
it started up in the background after 5 minutes
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that
09:06
was a slow bootup
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oh well
09:14
now i cant install vanced anymore
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newpipe it is i guess
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vanced manager stays at 0% and if i just install the apk manually it just says app not installed
09:15
what is newpile
09:15
newpipe
09:16
a yt client that isnt a modded official one
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cant log in
09:17
heeeeelll noooo
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#RadMorning 10/01/2022 09:21
gm
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a yt client that isnt a modded official one
Deleted User 10/01/2022 12:50
it's open source actually
12:50
you can make it look like yt i guess with the light theme
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hello from mac mini g4
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ImSwordQueen 10/01/2022 16:36
wtf discord lite
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this is a client made by the same dude who made those version for unsupported macs patchers
16:37
dosdude1
16:38
An ultra-lightweight native Discord client for vintage and modern Mac OS - GitHub - dosdude1/discord-lite: An ultra-lightweight native Discord client for vintage and modern Mac OS
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ImSwordQueen 10/01/2022 16:41
run sierra on the g4 tr (edited)
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notScamdisk BOT 10/01/2022 16:42
no trol
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ImSwordQueen 10/01/2022 16:42
oh
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the fact that old ass macos gets a native discord client before XP would ever
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notScamdisk BOT 10/01/2022 16:51
trol
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 17:42
what are your thoughts on discord friends
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#RadMorning 10/01/2022 18:03
I don't think anyone online can be your truthful friend unless you meet them irl
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 18:18
i mean, as in the feature lol
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Scamdisk
hello from mac mini g4
Thought that was ripcord first glance
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Scamdisk
this is a client made by the same dude who made those version for unsupported macs patchers
Eyyy
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I may be realkek fanboy, but for those specs why not Intel WiFi?
19:56
my friend's laptop with AMD everything has Intel wifi
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 19:57
what's wrong with realtek wifi
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ohh it's WiFi 6 capable, so it's good
19:57
I thought it was AC only
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Deleted User
what's wrong with realtek wifi
nothing
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 19:58
does it really matter if the card is made by realtek or by intel anyway..
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out of all USB WiFi dongles I've had, the ones with Realtek chips were the most reliable
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 19:58
i only know one thing: if you use ics for so long any wifi card fucks up
19:58
it just disappears from the system entirely...
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Deleted User
does it really matter if the card is made by realtek or by intel anyway..
it matters only in terms of name :)))
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Deleted User
i only know one thing: if you use ics for so long any wifi card fucks up
i mean I'd blame that on bad design
19:59
since I have old arse Pocket PC PDAs whose WiFi G still works just fine (edited)
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 19:59
you know what ics is right?
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I found an old russian webpage from a guy that made modded firmware for these
20:00
IIRC it was something from Texas Instruments
20:00
also I'm currently using my bluetooth headphones wired with a cable to my Realtek HD Audio codec chip
20:00
because I'm too lazy to configure the EQ profile for the bluetooth connection, as the headphones have their own EQ that I don't like that much
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RaduTek
IIRC it was something from Texas Instruments
Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:00
is that an answer to my question?
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are you referring to IC (Integrated Circuit) or ICS? (edited)
20:01
since no caps makes acronyms confusing (edited)
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:03
20:03
you probably wouldn't have guessed it anyway
20:03
also yes this is an rdp session
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I don't think that would break a WiFi card
20:04
like it would put almost the same stress as if it were connected to an AP
20:04
maybe it would work it a bit more as it works in AP mode
20:04
but still it should be able to handle it
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:04
it did, occasionally (edited)
20:05
the wifi card would disappear for a week or two
20:05
then come back on its own
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dodgy hardware connection? (edited)
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:05
nah
20:05
because if i don't use that it never happens
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Deleted User
also yes this is an rdp session
how did you get Aero in RDP
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:05
remotefx
20:05
and a 100mpbs lan cable
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I think Server 2008 has an option for it, but I can't get it to work
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:05
easy
20:05
gpedit.msc
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Deleted User
and a 100mpbs lan cable
jokes on you I have Gigabit
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:06
on BOTH computers
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fine on BOTH computers
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:06
lol
20:06
the receiver has to have remotefx tunneling or whatever enabled
20:06
i'll take a screenshot
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RaduTek
jokes on you I have Gigabit
Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:06
sorry, lan card is limited to 100mbps on my rubbish ideapad
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same on my Eee PC
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my asus zenbook laptop has intel wifi card (edited)
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and on my 2014 Asus Celeron Potatobook thing
20:07
but funnily my 2004 Acer laptop has gigabit ethernet
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:07
lmao
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must've been high end
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not sure
20:08
the build quality is cheap as fuck
20:08
it feels so flimsy
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:08
say what
20:08
i guess you only need it on the receiver then lol
20:08
imma check, wait
20:10
this is the reciever (identical looking, i know)
20:11
and those are the only 2 settings i have configured..
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I wish Discord would let you pin messages for yourself only
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:12
also make sure you do this and not detect network connection
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like a star feature
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RaduTek
I wish Discord would let you pin messages for yourself only
Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:12
use BD + plugin
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I use web discord
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:12
ah
20:12
hmm
20:12
well you could store them in dms with someone
20:13
don't you have a second acc?
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I do
20:13
but meh
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:14
well if only discord has a "Saved Messages" feature like telegram
20:14
that is perfect for me
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do I need a Server 2008 host for REmoteFX
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:14
no
20:14
this is windows 7
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also does it require the remote client to be WIndows 7? (edited)
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:15
well, pretty sure these policies are only available in 7sp1/server 2008r2
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and up
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yeah I presumed
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:16
(host needs to be server 2008 and up, but not vista)
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but what if I connected from windows 10 to server 2008
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would it render aero or not
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 20:16
do you have aero enabled on there first
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you need to install something from server manager to get it first, and then it should work via rdp sessions
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oh and btw this works until windows 10 build 19043.928 (aka 21h1 rtm)
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 21:24
Gut ebeing
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#RadMorning 10/01/2022 21:25
Guten Abend!
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Deleted User
Gut ebeing
Deleted User 10/01/2022 21:25
what
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Anyhow, the original intention with os ranks were to include the ones you use on a daily basis. But it wasn't clearly what people used it for. (edited)
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#RadMorning 10/01/2022 21:26
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I think there's enough colour
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Deleted User 10/01/2022 21:26
yeah
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Deleted User
what
Deleted User 10/01/2022 21:26
that means good evening
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ah
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good evening to you too
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in radal's babuska english
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#RadMorning
Click to see attachment 🖼️
DeRosenberg 10/01/2022 22:03
Why is your screenshot almost look like it was screenshotted on an iPhone
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#RadMorning
Guten Abend!
DeRosenberg 10/01/2022 22:03
Bonsoir
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DeRosenberg
Why is your screenshot almost look like it was screenshotted on an iPhone
It's clipped.
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DeRosenberg 10/01/2022 22:42
Clipped?
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Clipped. From desktop.
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DeRosenberg 10/01/2022 22:58
Oh
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MassClaw
Anyhow, the original intention with os ranks were to include the ones you use on a daily basis. But it wasn't clearly what people used it for. (edited)
does anyone use nt 3.x or nt 4 daily
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nah
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Yeah, not realistically, but i've seen some that actually are in the context of their workload and all that.
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Dean's Tech Corner🌙 11/01/2022 02:08
Does anyone have a driver for the intel 6235 windows vista
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Because there’s only an XP and 8 version
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And I have tried extracting the.EXE file
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But I never get any INI files
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Welcome, one second.
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Are you referring to: Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6235?
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Dean's Tech Corner🌙 11/01/2022 02:12
Yes
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Oh ok then.
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Dean's Tech Corner🌙 11/01/2022 02:13
This is what I got when I extracted the .exe:
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That was the windows xp version (edited)
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Download Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 PROSet/Wireless Driver/Software 19.70.0 for Windows 7 64-bit (Network Card)
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Dean's Tech Corner🌙 11/01/2022 02:15
No not yet
02:15
I will try
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It seems like it extracted tho
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Just proceed.
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Dean's Tech Corner🌙 11/01/2022 02:21
Same stuff
02:21
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Hm, not good.
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Dean's Tech Corner🌙 11/01/2022 02:22
I do have another pc that can run windows vista
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In terms of Wi-Fi drivers
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Maybe I should use that
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You probably should, there is an inherent lack of trustable sources for this driver.
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Dean's Tech Corner🌙 11/01/2022 02:26
Both of the laptops have a annoying GPU though . I can get 3-D drivers to work but not aero
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It's a small price to pay.
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i have that same wifi card in my thinkpad which runs vista. this driver works fine
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A generic driver for this thing? Nice.
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MassClaw
A generic driver for this thing? Nice.
Dean's Tech Corner🌙 11/01/2022 03:24
I couldn’t get that to work so I think I’m going to use windows 7
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interesting how it works fine on my machine that has the same exact card with vista
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#RadMorning
I think there's enough colour
no you don't understand
06:11
rather than have OS or country roles set your color
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have roles to set your color
06:11
the OS stuff can remain
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especially since some colors are just hard to read since they're too dark
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not much yet
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taskbar be looking nice tho
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well that was the only thing i changed
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 09:10
Morning
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#RadMorning 11/01/2022 09:22
gm
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 10:46
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hd audio I guess
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don't wanna change my nickname :P
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win5270
interesting how it works fine on my machine that has the same exact card with vista
Deleted User 11/01/2022 12:32
ac 7260 vista driver when
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Ximonite
hd audio I guess
Deleted User 11/01/2022 12:36
lmao
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 13:50
how do i install windows vista on TO a usb? (edited)
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wintousb does not work
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Deleted User
wintousb does not work
tried winsetupfromusb?
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that worked for me many times
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 13:51
is that just to make a bootable usb or installing a full os to a usb?
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bootable usb
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 13:52
bruh
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oh wait
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i see
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you shouldnt install oses on usb's
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 13:52
i dont have a spare hard drive
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i really want to use vista again
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just for some time
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guess im making a partition on my 500gb hdd
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Ximonite
hd audio I guess
yayyy
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@Deleted User you should change your nickname to "VIA Vinyl AC'97 Audio" (edited)
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he has via hd audio tho
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FakeTek LD Audio BOT 11/01/2022 13:56
ac97 is better 4ktroll
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nahh
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the front panel connector design for AC'97 is dumb
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HD audio supports connector retasking :D
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what is that
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basically you can assign any jack to whatever purpose you like
13:58
you plug in a jack, the PC prompts you to select what you plugged in
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also lspci says my audio controller is intel while it uses soundmax drivers in windows
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strange
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I think it's because Intel made the standard
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and it uses PCI ID 8086 which is Intel's ID
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also the codec chip (from whomever it may be, Realtek, VIA, Analog Devices..) connects to the HD Audio bus which is hosted by the chipset (edited)
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me when compiling the entirety of gcc just for neofetch
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 15:38
ah yes
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compiling a compiler
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and its using gcc to compile gcc
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 15:39
lmfao
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different versions but still
15:39
using a compiler to compile said compiler
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 15:40
gold
15:40
that's the G4 no?
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yes
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 15:41
run linux on there valvenewsMega
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no
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Deleted User 11/01/2022 15:42
shame
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and doing all of this just for neofetch
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Ximonite
he has via hd audio tho
Deleted User 11/01/2022 16:00
yeah
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also
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im finally on vista
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Scamdisk
using a compiler to compile said compiler
#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 11/01/2022 16:50
now thats just in the department of redundancy department territory
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win5270
interesting how it works fine on my machine that has the same exact card with vista
Dean's Tech Corner🌙 11/01/2022 18:08
I'm running a weird haswell system with vista
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sometimes the Windows Installer service does NOT have a fun time with that (edited)
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win5270
interesting how it works fine on my machine that has the same exact card with vista
giving windows 10 vibes when someone with the same hardware says windows 10 works fine
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problem
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won't load
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Scamdisk
me when compiling the entirety of gcc just for neofetch
neofetch is a shell script bro
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just run it in bash
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trol
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it runs on haiku even
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fr tho? like fr bro? fr fr fr tho? fr??? fr man???? fr bo?
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ImSwordQueen 11/01/2022 22:39
You can make it look modern if you change the start button
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@Ximonite rate the theme above
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pretty good
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#RadMorning 12/01/2022 09:19
gm
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Greetings.
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the system volume information folder on my t520 is 18GB
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is that a problem?
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I don't think it's supposed to be that big
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windows search indexing?
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the Door guy 12/01/2022 18:31
why does the discord windows app lag so hard sometimes
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blame the fact its a glorified web browser
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Betajyst4094 12/01/2022 18:51
That started happening lately, a while ago it was just fine..
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Strangely it started to be smoother for me after the class overhaul update
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Scamdisk
blame the fact its a glorified web browser
and that's why I run discord in a web browser
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it's been faster, less laggier and easier on RAM
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and it also makes the browser instantly launch, since it's already loaded
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Deleted User
im finally on vista
taskbar looks glitched
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Calasay
taskbar looks glitched
taskbar and window title goes black on some machines when you maximize a window
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its a vista thing(tm)
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on some machines?
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no it's on all machines
22:50
the taskbar and window title go black on vista when you maximize
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ImSwordQueen 12/01/2022 22:53
oh #ideas got archived
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Vruh 2
the taskbar and window title go black on vista when you maximize
really? i had a machine where it would stay transparent
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ImSwordQueen 12/01/2022 22:58
aren't you confusing it with vista7
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ImSwordQueen
aren't you confusing it with vista7
no i never used vista7
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i had vista w/ exkernel on my thinkpad and it was transparent when maximized
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im pretty sure
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@win32 did you ever finish the os spoofer kernel for win7?
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he's too busy working on Windows Vista
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if i had to guess
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He's making a spoofer for 7?
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docR
He's making a spoofer for 7?
few months back he told me he would put the vista one onto 7's kernel, supposedly it wouldnt be too hard to do
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but i havent heard anything about it
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There are some issues with some x86 applications on Vista, such as Windows installer. They need to be looked at before I can put the spoofer in 7.
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win32
There are some issues with some x86 applications on Vista, such as Windows installer. They need to be looked at before I can put the spoofer in 7.
kk
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win32
There are some issues with some x86 applications on Vista, such as Windows installer. They need to be looked at before I can put the spoofer in 7.
So it's actually coming to 7? Fancy 👀
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Calasay
taskbar looks glitched
Deleted User 13/01/2022 08:30
2nd monitor
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 09:36
gm!
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 11:19
good afternoon
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 11:32
11:33
look: libraries!
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libraries
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hmm yes, clover
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 11:37
yep
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 11:47
yay libraries
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#RadMorning
Click to see attachment 🖼️
the Door guy 13/01/2022 12:23
Wtf are those tabs??
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 12:23
Clover tabs
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the Door guy 13/01/2022 12:24
why does idm keep showing this everytime when i have the idm reset trial thing on
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 12:24
idk
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it's just confused
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the Door guy 13/01/2022 12:25
still works tho
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 12:25
yeah, same for me
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I just X it off
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the Door guy 13/01/2022 12:25
12:25
is this the right clover
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 12:25
Yeah
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the Door guy 13/01/2022 12:27
12:27
huh
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 12:28
disable the bookmarks bar if you dont wanna use it
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the Door guy 13/01/2022 12:28
no i meant the navigation bar
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its black
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 12:29
idk how I can help
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the Door guy 13/01/2022 12:29
instead of being transparent
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 12:29
havent used 7 in a long while
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the Door guy 13/01/2022 12:29
this is 8.1
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themed
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 12:29
same thing
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I have 8.1 but without glass8
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 12:48
I just remembered - you could try out QTTabBar as well
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I personally find it a little annoying - if you want to open a new tab, you have to pick a location every single time
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+ I like Clover's style
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it looks like old Chrome
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
Betajyst4094 13/01/2022 12:58
That looks handy..
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#RadMorning
I personally find it a little annoying - if you want to open a new tab, you have to pick a location every single time
Isn’t the middle mouse click shortcut to open new tabs there to fix that
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Unless you have a trackpad or something
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It should be redefinable
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Betajyst4094 13/01/2022 15:08
flush 1
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clover ass
flush 1
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Marda33
It should be redefinable
#RadMorning 13/01/2022 15:18
I was looking for an option that would just open 'This PC' if I pressed the plus button to open a new tab
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 16:49
LMAO
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@Ximonite
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:50
@Deleted User what laptop is that?
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also what os?
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 16:50
win7, ideapad 100
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idk i resumed pc from sleep
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:50
haswell?
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 16:50
baytrailM celeron
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:50
so after haswell right?
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 16:50
i think that's a haswell derivative
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laughs at @docR
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:51
i got that screen on 8.1 too
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and not on haswell
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laughs at @docR
and @Ximonite, because he considered Vista7 too
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:51
ximonite traitor
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I guess the liquor won.
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 16:51
how'd u know it's vista7'd lol
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:51
both in brazil
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 16:52
i've been maining vista7 for months though on my thinkpad that has a 4700mq and never seen that
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vista7 v1, then v2 a month ago
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:52
i mean if it does on 7 so it does on vista7 too (edited)
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Dixel has stated that the lower end Haswell+ CPUs that lack AVX and everything (Pentiums/Celerons) do not have the same issues with Vista that higher end CPUs do.
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2 problems
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1. dixel
16:53
2. ivy has avx
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 16:53
yup this shit lacks avx
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but yeah
16:53
ivy bridge has avx
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iirc
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:53
so it's not an avx problem
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it does
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:53
but if drift only happens on haswell even without avx though
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🤔
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Yep, I don't think it is AVX but something else. I know what AVX issues are like (0xc000001d ntstatus error if you try executing an avx instruction)
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Haswell did introduce AVX2, but I don't see how that would change anything.
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 16:54
also if it doesn't avx1 then it doesn't have avx2 either
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I'm almost 100% sure its the clock circuit
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I have found at least 13 possible paths that lead to the applications failing to initialize.
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the haswell+ clock circuit is generally less consistent when it comes to sticking with a certain frequency, but it is more power efficient and able to reach higher clock speeds. the main reason behind the change was to increase the clock speeds of their cpus. also some cpus being better than others with drift is most likely related to the die being near the middle of the wafer, since those dies are generally higher quality.
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laughs at @docR
pfffft
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here's a simple way to show the improvements the new clock circuit made:
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4790k was a killer cpu, honestly. too bad my board was too shit to let me enjoy using it
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 18:21
Hiya!
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 18:42
hi
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Betajyst4094 13/01/2022 19:09
Ninja style
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lan? please?
20:07
trying to ping my laptop
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they're literally both wired directly to my modem
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 20:07
check firewall
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my laptop can ping 192.168.0.2
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 20:07
that usually blocks pings
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i can't ping 192.168.0.10
20:07
the detail is my laptop is running windows xp
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 20:08
xp's firewall blocks pings
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yeah
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it must block absolutely everything
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 20:08
idk, disable it
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because there i can't do ftp
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i can't do file sharing normally
20:08
i can't do remote desktop
20:08
there now i can ping it
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and now i can see it
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 20:09
congratulations
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and now i can ftp
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 20:28
xp firewall = extreme potato
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 20:30
you could probably open up the necessary ports (also possible through the "apps" list in firewall settings iirc), but considering vruh needed a lot of things disabling it is probably the best option
20:30
not like it's powerful enough to block new malware
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 20:32
what malware would run on xp still
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 20:33
ancient shit, probably like sasser or something
20:33
but that doesn't spread thru the net anymore
20:34
we've reached a state where old computers are really safe on the internet because simply no malware supports them
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 20:34
👍
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 20:34
of course, i mean as in unfiltered network, not apps
20:34
you can always catch something like oofer did
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ImSwordQueen 13/01/2022 20:34
probably if you have a firewall on your connection the you are mostly find
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Deleted User 13/01/2022 20:35
all modern routers have built in firewalls too, which are sufficient in blocking net attacks most of the time
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the Door guy 13/01/2022 21:12
why is my firefox download window like this
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Deformisani SAS 13/01/2022 23:06
ask firefox
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#RadMorning 13/01/2022 23:35
gn
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the Door guy 14/01/2022 11:25
11:26
i dont think its windows 7's fault
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reminder that common sense is the best antivirus 👍
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DeRosenberg 14/01/2022 11:45
haha
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Holy shit
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the Door guy
Click to see attachment 🖼️
It's definitely not due to all the Fortnite hacks and cracks I downloaded from totallylegitsite.biz
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RaduTek
It's definitely not due to all the Fortnite hacks and cracks I downloaded from totallylegitsite.biz
its always .biz lmfao
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RaduTek
It's definitely not due to all the Fortnite hacks and cracks I downloaded from totallylegitsite.biz
i mean windows defender couldve prevented that
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they probably didnt have an antivirus and couldnt be bothered to update win7 defender
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exactly, user's fault
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but it's easier to blame the OS than to recognise your mistakes
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DeRosenberg 14/01/2022 12:35
That's true
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DeRosenberg 14/01/2022 13:01
Also I installed the OG Discord, since I feel like Bluecord is outdated
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People who think 7 is considerably riskier to use than 10 don't know how to use a computer
14:12
Evident by getting hit with malware trying to crack their games lol
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as many say, more and more people just don't know how to pirate anymore
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and streaming and subscription models are slowly taking over
14:25
that trash means you will not be able to play a game or watch a movie that is the cause of some legal trouble or some shit
14:25
or more simply, shit becoming inaccessible
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as evidenced by the retarded widevine protection used by netflix and amazon and shit
14:30
you need to install an extension that tricks it into thinking you're running chromeos
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only then it will let you go above 720p
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lets also not forget to mention the servers they use for various isps sometimes dont have 5.1 audio
14:31
what the fuck am i even paying for at this point
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#RadMorning 14/01/2022 14:35
hiyaaaa!
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Betajyst4094 14/01/2022 14:35
Ninja style
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#RadMorning 14/01/2022 14:35
Ya!
14:35
what's up?
14:35
the sky duh
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hello :P
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oofer_dww
what the fuck am i even paying for at this point
you're paying for the privilege of getting fucked over
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#RadMorning 14/01/2022 14:47
Having DVDs and Blu-Ray discs was also a privilege
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RaduTek
you're paying for the privilege of getting fucked over
im paying just to web-dl shittroll
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RaduTek
as many say, more and more people just don't know how to pirate anymore
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I smell BS
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Yes remember to crack Debian's activation!
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#RadMorning 14/01/2022 16:38
Try to activate a free OS!
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How to pin files to the top of a folder when sorting by date
16:40
just modify the attributes to set it to be in the future
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#RadMorning 14/01/2022 16:41
XD
16:41
'Sometime in the future'
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RaduTek
troll
ah yeah i really want to activate my free software
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Betajyst4094 14/01/2022 16:58
Can someone install and extract the folder out for me, thanks https://wallmanager-x64.en.uptodown.com/windows
Download the latest version of WallManager x64 for Windows. Automatically change your wallpaper. WallManager is a program that lets you easily change your wallpaper....
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@Betajyst4094
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Betajyst4094 14/01/2022 18:56
Appreciate it bro
18:58
I really have to reinstall
18:58
Net 4.8 is fucking killing me
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Deleted User 14/01/2022 21:05
preparing stuff for the trip
21:05
not all episodes
21:06
just the ones i didnt watch (still cant download season 5+)
21:42
Ah yes: every time you want the Windows 10 ribbon UI you'd have to go to the "Windows Tools" folder and then click on a folder in the sidebar
21:42
totally practical 100% very useful tip
21:42
OP: "i prefer not to use third party tools just to view the ribbon back in w11"
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acts as if WinAero tweaker is bloatware that runs 24/7 and mines crypto :)))
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r/Windows.... type subs make you lose braincells
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r/Windows11 sub is full of dumb idiots
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r/WindowsXP is full of absolutely stupid kids that are newer than XP, Vista and 7 :)))
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Deleted User
preparing stuff for the trip
i made a gamer move for a train trip
23:50
copied my jellyfin library to laptop
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charged it and phone+headphones to 100
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connected laptop to hotspot and suddenly i have a lot of shit to watchtr
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RaduTek
r/Windows.... type subs make you lose braincells
You'll lose so many brain cells you'll end up browsing r/braincels!
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LMAO
@docR
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how the fuck does he think doing this is practical in any way
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 10:11
hiya
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Betajyst4094 15/01/2022 10:17
Ninja style
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 10:30
I'm trying to use my mouse with my left hand right now
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I changed the left click position
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 10:38
I gave up
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Not sure if anyone cares but I archived the MS Composer collection by DocRetro (same one who made the Windows Collections)
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:35
Bring some life into this channel!
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RaduTek
how the fuck does he think doing this is practical in any way
Stop browsing r/windows before you snap and turn into one of them 💀
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:36
so he should stop browsing before he... becomes one of them?
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I'm confused
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So one day he'll just decide 'oh ye I wanna be dumb'
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Before he turns into an imbecile like most people on that sub lol
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Yes
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You lose brain cells with every visit
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It's like drinking, but worse
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:37
That's true...
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I think I've become a little dumb
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:38
I'm neutral about XP/Vista/7 and 10/11
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both generations of Windows have their advantages
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everybody's quiet... I feel awkward
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I don't actually hate any version of Windows, apart from consumer skus of 10
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:42
Oh yeah, Win10 Home sucks
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What I mean by losing brain cells is people like that poster thinking using Winaero or similar to modify a registry setting is bloat, therefore go into folder properties every time. Or those folks on technet who just tell you to run system restore and sfc when your printer catches on fire
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:44
I get it now
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well, Winaero Tweaker's a tool, not bloat
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well frankly its not like they delegated the best 10 version to Servers only
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And I don't hate XP either, I just think 2003 is XP on steroids lol
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and client ltsc consumers getting the worst release
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more like the worst release's third service pack
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:45
LTSB releases were alright (2015, 2016)
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Scamdisk
and client ltsc consumers getting the worst release
That's a shame
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Server 2022 is supposedly quite good
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I've had decent success with 10 ltsc 1809. It may have honestly run lighter than 7, with no apparent caveats if you don't care for the Store
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UI is... Well have a beer or two and it'll look better after feelscringeman
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:46
isn't 1809 one of the worse Win10 releases?
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1904x is honestly the slowest 10 has been on anything
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1809 is bad sure, but it doesn't compare to the bad 1904x is (edited)
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#RadMorning
isn't 1809 one of the worse Win10 releases?
Consumer was. I can vouch for that. LTSC.... Surprisingly no, it was solid
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:47
Alrighty
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Scamdisk
1809 is bad sure, but it doesn't compare to the bad 1904x is (edited)
#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:47
I used LTSC 2021 for a little while
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It wasn't bad
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well on HW it isnt
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on vms its doom
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I love that emoji lol
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and on weaker hardware it's also doom (edited)
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Let's just install Server 2012
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pepe_based
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9200 pepe_based
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Testing 123. Is Win32 listening?
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...
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......
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No?
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Okay, install Vista7 or Vista too (edited)
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:49
Was the Start screen really necessary for Server 2012?
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Classic Shell me bucko
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well they did have to use the same code as client so
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docR
Classic Shell me bucko
#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:50
of course
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Hey I use it even on 7
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ex7forw8: hello (edited)
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:50
I forgot about that
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Also I say this with a pinch of surprise in my voice
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My wireless Canon laser printer actually... Well prints wirelessly from my desktop, laptop, and phone lol
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With cheap inkjwrs just printing over usb was a miracle!
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:52
wow, a printer that actually does its job... (edited)
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wirelessly!
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Those lovely $70 inkjets with $50 ink cartridges that print maybe 20 sheets
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And take 4 1/2 hours to dry
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Or smear text
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I gave up on printers for years and just paid a quarter to print everything at the libraries
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docR
Okay, install Vista7 or Vista too (edited)
@win32
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You.......
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Why must you insist on securing my untimely death
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doom
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:55
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What have they done?
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This is starting to sound like an excuse
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the normal Windows 11 build is also buggy
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the 'stable' one
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DeRosenberg 15/01/2022 15:57
It is?
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#RadMorning
Click to see attachment 🖼️
What's wrong with it? That color scheme aside lol
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docR
What's wrong with it? That color scheme aside lol
#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:58
Audio enhancements: Physical address (MAC):, Dolby Atmos, SSID:...
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DeRosenberg 15/01/2022 15:58
I mean tbh Windows 11 feels like a rushed version or something
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:58
and the Wi-Fi flyout is broken
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DeRosenberg 15/01/2022 15:58
Like take your time
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Ohhh. I was looking at the network selection in the tray
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 15:59
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localization gone wrong
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Lolol I see now
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Omfg
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They're hopeless
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I guess if you must use modern Windows, use Server 2022
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 16:00
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Another case of localization gone wrong
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My activation status is as light as an orchid
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Scamdisk
on vms its doom
ImSwordQueen 15/01/2022 16:01
it wasn't that bad on vms
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pro was worse
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DeRosenberg
I mean tbh Windows 11 feels like a rushed version or something
windows 10 with a scuffed as fuck UI
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the only thing better is gaming performance
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they should just bring the gaming performance improvements to windows to 10
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@Scamdisk i
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am confident
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cast.lib and that other error are useless
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because they're the only errors i got in a clean build changing the branch
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damn
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i'm gonna strap in the missing binaries and see if i can do a postbuild
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if i can and it produces a working os imma shit in cast.lib
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i have a little less binaries than on my w7 machine
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which means
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it probably will work
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the difference is so negligible i doubt it's gonna interfer with postbuild that much
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@Scamdisk i come back with news
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both errors can be safely ignored
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only the csapithing.dll one you need to mind
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just grab the dll and stick it on binaries.x86fre and done lol
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 20:58
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whats with my explorer
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#RadMorning 15/01/2022 20:59
I've got no idea
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restart it using taskmgr
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 20:59
ive just reset icon cache
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and taht happened
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wtf?
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THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO MY EXPLORER
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DeRosenberg
I mean tbh Windows 11 feels like a rushed version or something
Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:10
because windows 11 was in development for a month until one of the employees leaked the build
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the Door guy
and taht happened
Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:10
wut the fuck
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the Door guy
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:11
unplug any usb device
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:11
@ImSwordQueen did you had this happening?
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Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:11
i had
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and the fix is by unplugging your usb or your phone from ur pc
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ImSwordQueen 15/01/2022 21:11
do what
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:12
did you have explorer glitching out on 8.1?
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Deformisani SAS
and the fix is by unplugging your usb or your phone from ur pc
the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:12
i dont have any usb plugged in
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the Door guy
did you have explorer glitching out on 8.1?
Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:12
already said the answer to the fix
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ImSwordQueen 15/01/2022 21:12
yes when deleting big files
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and a lot of files
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at random? no
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Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:12
then reboot
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im on shitdows 11
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:13
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Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:13
nice you broke your shell
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:13
i didnt do anything
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to the shell
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Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:14
by modfying the os with themes? yeah right
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any theme patcher like ultraux replaces the shell dll stuff
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and now you broke it
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:14
i used secureuxtheme
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though
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Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:14
it broke your shell
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reboot into the windows recovery menu (force shutdown your pc 3 times when the windows logo pops up
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and then go more and then go to your latest system restore
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:16
tray icon just appeared
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Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:16
i mean you can ask dave plummer (he worked at microsoft for a decade in the msdos and win 95 days)
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the Door guy
tray icon just appeared
Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:16
ok
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never modify your windows install with themes and stuff.
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Deformisani SAS
because windows 11 was in development for a month until one of the employees leaked the build
DeRosenberg 15/01/2022 21:18
bruh
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Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:18
yeah like bruh
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Deformisani SAS
never modify your windows install with themes and stuff.
what are you talking about lol
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secure ux theme doesnt patch system files
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Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 21:18
it does
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patches the shell stuff
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i used it and it broke my win 8.1 install
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no, it just patches them live in memory
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Deformisani SAS
i used it and it broke my win 8.1 install
works on my machine (tm)
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DeRosenberg 15/01/2022 21:19
I would say you should have a Windows USB as a backup but I'm mentioning the obvious
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:21
main explorer stuff and programs such
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work
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but desktop and taskbar slowly load
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atleast i have something
libraries 1
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@ImSwordQueen what do i do if desktop doesnt load?
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ImSwordQueen 15/01/2022 21:30
open taskmgr maybe?
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:34
and
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ImSwordQueen 15/01/2022 21:34
kill explorer and reopen it?
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it should be obvious?
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:35
ive done that a billion times
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tho
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the desktop doesnt load
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the taskbar barely loads
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ImSwordQueen 15/01/2022 21:35
even if you restart the os?
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:35
i didnt restart
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ImSwordQueen 15/01/2022 21:35
i would restart tbh
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:36
im worried
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ImSwordQueen 15/01/2022 21:36
the shell doesn't magically die at random
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the Door guy 15/01/2022 21:43
Restarting fixed ir
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ImSwordQueen 15/01/2022 22:09
ffs i got banned
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DeRosenberg 15/01/2022 22:10
Bruh
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Deformisani SAS
never modify your windows install with themes and stuff.
lmfao what????
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dave plummer literally has no word in this
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i doubt he even came close to touch uxtheme
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ultrauxtheme only patched theme dlls (uxtheme.dll, etc)
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it doesnt patch shell32.dll
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anyways
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Vruh 2
lmfao what????
Deformisani SAS 15/01/2022 23:27
he ported the shell over to the NT platform
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i doubt it
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maybe worked in newshell
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it doesn't mean you shouldn't modify windows with themes and shit
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it doesn't fucking break it unless you're a moron and you don't know what you're doing
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or you use a shitty theme file or something
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ultrauxthemepatcher has never failed me
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ultrauxthemepatcher has never failed me on non-beta windows
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it hasn't failed me except on pre-sp2 srv03
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and on some betas yeah
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betas is where uxstyle comes in
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even tho that by itself isnt great
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#RadMorning 16/01/2022 10:07
good morning!
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buna dimineata
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#RadMorning 16/01/2022 10:07
dobro jutro i tebi
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#RadMorning
good morning!
the Door guy 16/01/2022 10:57
Доброе утро!
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neata soare!
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noapte bună, lună (edited)
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Iуьйре дика хуьлда шун
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Though it is not morning anymore
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#RadMorning
good morning!
Deleted User 16/01/2022 12:53
Good afternoon!
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giving you da options
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Vruh 2
giving you da options
ImSwordQueen 16/01/2022 14:19
damn that's sick
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cleartype is now enabled by default
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ImSwordQueen 16/01/2022 15:23
port oobe next tr
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Would be cool if you guys set up an IRC bridge on this server, for those who want to chat from any os
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ImSwordQueen 16/01/2022 20:06
no admins present on the server.
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is this the death of wls?
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Betajyst4094 16/01/2022 20:15
Wls ded 2022
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F in the chat
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Betajyst4094 16/01/2022 20:17
It has been pretty quiet here
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I suppose we out of stuff to discuss and most of it happens outside
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#RadMorning 16/01/2022 20:22
I think it's also safe to say that people have been busy recently
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Betajyst4094 16/01/2022 20:24
Could be...at the same time people from here actively talk on other servers
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#RadMorning 16/01/2022 20:24
oh yeah, that's plausible
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ImSwordQueen
no admins present on the server.
me and anx are both admins, yall just dont realize it
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also ximonite and win32 have been popping in and out all day and they’re both admins
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Does the question even need to be asked
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Like is the photo not clear enough
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ImSwordQueen
no admins present on the server.
You realize mods have nearly the same perms and can still mute and ban?
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And my role libraries is somewhere between mod and admin
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maclibrary
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win5270
also ximonite and win32 have been popping in and out all day and they’re both admins
Yes, I wasn't home for the past two days.
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RaduTek
Does the question even need to be asked
#RadMorning 16/01/2022 21:09
Yes, I don't know the answer
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docR
maclibrary
For the last time, that's a fucking bank.
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I have a question
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Or court.
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Or internet archive
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#RadMorning 16/01/2022 21:10
That is a court
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I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 100. What is it?
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#RadMorning 16/01/2022 21:10
that's not a bank
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67
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the Door guy 16/01/2022 21:10
84
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#RadMorning
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-warn @#RadMorning close, it's really 62
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dynoSuccess Warning logged for MadEvening#5461. I couldn't DM them.
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#RadMorning 16/01/2022 21:11
I'm surprised
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-warn @Hank fuck off
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dynoError I can't find user @Hank.
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-warn @Ol' lodocus fuck off
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dynoSuccess Warning logged for Dyno#3861. I couldn't DM them.
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docR
You realize mods have nearly the same perms and can still mute and ban?
Betajyst4094 16/01/2022 21:18
Not ban
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Mod can't (edited)
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?ban @Betacyst
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-ban @Betacyst
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dynoSuccess Betacyst#2447 was banned
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Betajyst4094 16/01/2022 21:19
Oh
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Alright
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a full-blown manual for Windows 8.x
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Nowaydays, @haikuOS guys are porting Wine to Haiku. #ReactOS components are working on Haiku, too! Here are some screenshots.
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wine on haiku
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  • dies *
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@Windows software running on @haikuOS ?? Looks like it's going to be possible in a short time through #wine and #xlibe: https://t.co/ObBlDBqodC Great work by X512 and Waddlesplash. 2022 is looking brilliant for #Haiku Kudos!!!
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can't wait for this to evolve
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thats awesome
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i guess xlibe is to run linux software or something?
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oh its for xorg software
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All leaks are NOT mine. Hurry, get them before it got deleted Password and instruction are included If you want to keep up-to-date, use Tor Browser and visit this onion webpage http://fckilfkscwuso...
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reminder this still exists
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looking at pseudocode generated by ida without debug symbols made me cry
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i'm going to the corner
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Deformisani SAS 17/01/2022 06:25
let me guess that @docR loves school
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Deformisani SAS
let me guess that @docR loves school
nope he loves libraries
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Deformisani SAS 17/01/2022 06:25
xd
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yea
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why noy both?
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Deformisani SAS 17/01/2022 06:26
well today for me school starts and im in school rn
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no, he loves libraries and maclibrary
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People in my area were supposed to go back to school today, but they were all closed because of heavy snow.
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whats the deal with the libraries lol
libraries 4
maclibrary 3
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Deformisani SAS 17/01/2022 06:27
heavy snow? it was snowing in serbia and they closed school because of covid.
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ryan loves libraries
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my god
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Deformisani SAS 17/01/2022 06:27
yeap
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barely snows round here so ofc im at school rn
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been thinking bout hackintoshing 10.7 on my hp laptop but idk how to start
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i only have a usb drive and i definitely dont want to fuck with dvds
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well lion does boot from usb ig
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then uh
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i dont think distros would work since niresh panicked at some kext
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i kinda want to do it the vanilla way
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do it .
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but how
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how old is this laptop
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i need an experienced inidividual
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Vruh 2
how old is this laptop
hp 550
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2008
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so a c2d
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c2d t5470 merom 1.6 ghz
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4gb ddr2
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gma x3100
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you're shit outta luck in regards to the opencore guide
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10.8 x64 wont work cause no 64bit x3100 drivers
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because it only covers till nehalem for laptops
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i need 32 bit 10.7
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if theres no proper guide for such a machine, just use, sorry but i have to say it, tonymac's tools
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Scamdisk
if theres no proper guide for such a machine, just use, sorry but i have to say it, tonymac's tools
i dont have a legit mac to use multibeast (edited)
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use a vm
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it will work just as well for making a usb
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for the unibeast part
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severely owned
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if someone can guide me through it would be highly appreciated
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multibeast is used after install
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arrandale is 1st gen core right ?
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Vruh 2
you're shit outta luck in regards to the opencore guide
wasnt there also clover
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isnt that nethalem or whatever its called
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well it is nehalem
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then what the fuck is arrandale
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shitty tools do use clover
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you could try setting it up as a penryn desktop
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see the worst part is i have no idea what im doing
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with opencore
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doubt thats gonna work
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considering how nonstandard laptop acpi can be
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some dude in reddit said to do it
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and he got it working with some pentium m
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what. the. fuck.
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however this is where i come in to say
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i've done it before with my laptop
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and
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it did not work at all
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my pentium m machine can only boot properly with 10.4.1
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because my laptop is actually impossible to hackintosh
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literally
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so do i just pull a unibeast
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only niresh 10.9 works
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ONLY that
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i need like a legit lion installer
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havent had success with anything else
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ok so i guess i will make a mavericks vm and get unibeast using that
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its gonna be painfully slow though
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cause 4th gen i3 in virtualization is not all that good
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especially in vbox
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meanwhile me who virtualized using a sandy bridge celeron for years and was doing just fine
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i mean mac os specifically
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that was fine too
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anyways what do i do
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opencore guide says merom is technically supported
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4312 is unsupported wow im lucky
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actually i think a modified 4311 kext might work
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oh ok they dont have the needed files for merom either
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i guess i'll just go fuck myself then
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Which files to be exact?
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MassClaw
Which files to be exact?
ssdt's and plists
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they only have those for penrynn and up
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which is essentially mobile core i series
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penryn is core 2 duo
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but they only have desktop for that
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guess what
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i have a penryn
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laptop
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Deleted User 17/01/2022 09:34
Good morning
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Morning.
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if only this was luna
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non silly looking luna troll
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mallard but it isnt a joke trol
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literally gives out more mallard vibes than it does luna vibes
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it IS mallard
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#RadMorning 17/01/2022 12:45
Hiya
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i wanted to do it
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but i cannot understand ida output
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literally
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ImSwordQueen 17/01/2022 13:51
oh
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#RadMorning
Hiya
Greetings.
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you know what, fuck it
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:35
So zammis' advice worked
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well i did patch ci and winload
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but for the bootmgr part
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i let patchguard do it's thing
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:36
Exactly
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didn't expect the [tool i won't disclose] to work with 10537's ci and winload tho
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:39
Similar offsets
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CI doesn't get changed too often (edited)
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yeah but winload (edited)
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:40
Nor does winload
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In fact a lot of stuff is repeatedly reused almost unchanged since ga of windows 10 (edited)
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hmm guess it's gonna work for some other much later builds too
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but nah won't make a debombed iso of this build
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this is just testing grounds
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:42
Never got around fixing up 9860/9879 in the end... because fuck net 4.8 on vista (edited)
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and also because i can't debomb all of those skus without cooking them
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:44
And 10537 has a shitton of them I recall?..
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like all of the client (not clientN, just client) skus at the time
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:45
Hoho...they sure forgot to clean that up
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<Edition ID="Starter" name="Microsoft-Windows-StarterEdition" processorArchitecture="amd64" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" version="10.0.10537.0"> <Target ID="Core"/> <Target ID="CoreARM"/> <Target ID="CoreConnected"/> <Target ID="CoreCountrySpecific"/> <Target ID="CoreSingleLanguage"/> <Target ID="CoreConnectedCountrySpecific"/> <Target ID="CoreConnectedSingleLanguage"/> <Target ID="Education"/> <Target ID="EmbeddedIndustry"/> <Target ID="EmbeddedIndustryA"/> <Target ID="EmbeddedIndustryE"/> <Target ID="EmbeddedIndustryEEval"/> <Target ID="EmbeddedIndustryEval"/> <Target ID="Enterprise"/> <Target ID="EnterpriseEval"/> <Target ID="EnterpriseS"/> <Target ID="EnterpriseSEval"/> <Target ID="PPIPro"/> <Target ID="Professional"/> <Target ID="ProfessionalS"/> <Target ID="ProfessionalStudent"/> <Target ID="ProfessionalWMC"/> </Edition>
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yup, literally every client sku at that time
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:46
Oh my aromatics that's indeed a handful..
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the other compile of this build, the test signed one
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also has them
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but fucked manifests
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that won't let me go from Enterprise to Professional
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:48
All the good stuff is from internal you know
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Is the x64 enterprise one test signed?
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the th2_sigma_grfx_dev one? yes
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the upgrade target definition for starter above literally matches what's in the actual build
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here's the thing
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they also partially forgot to clean the server variant as well
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:51
Oh my bad, it's the sigma grfx build with broken manifests
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Many of those are virtual I figure?
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or idk i should check the editionmatrix of the server variant to see
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Betajyst4094
Many of those are virtual I figure?
there were no virtual skus at that time
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:52
Fair
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virtual skus were introduced in 1803
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this is some 1511 build
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but i do feel like there were more for server than well
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i feel like there's more than this list shows
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Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:54
Thanks for clarifying
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Scamdisk
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Betajyst4094 17/01/2022 16:54
Your screenshot?
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yes
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<Edition ID="ServerWeb" name="Microsoft-Windows-ServerWebEdition" processorArchitecture="amd64" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" version="10.0.10537.0"> <Target ID="ServerARM64"/> <Target ID="ServerCloudStorage"/> <Target ID="ServerDatacenter"/> <Target ID="ServerDatacenterEval"/> <Target ID="ServerHI"/> <Target ID="ServerSolution"/> <Target ID="ServerStandard"/> <Target ID="ServerStandardEval"/> <Target ID="ServerStorageStandard"/> <Target ID="ServerStorageStandardEval"/> <Target ID="ServerStorageWorkgroup"/> <Target ID="ServerStorageWorkgroupEval"/> <Target ID="ServerWinFoundation"/> </Edition>
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ok serverweb seems to match too
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except for ServerARM64
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ServerARM64 is the only thing that was cleaned up in the server variant
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while client had nothing cleaned out
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because both CoreARM and EmbeddedIndustryA are there
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here's another oddity about all of this
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all these skus are only in the x64 media
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the x86 media is what you expect
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aka core, professional, enterprise and education
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#RadMorning 17/01/2022 23:55
good night
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installing funny engine 5
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#RadMorning
good night
Night.
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#RadMorning 18/01/2022 08:21
good morning
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good morning
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good morning
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Betajyst4094 18/01/2022 08:26
Git
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#RadMorning 18/01/2022 08:26
git to you too
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 12:30
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somewhere between silver 1 and global elite i think
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this resolution every text is just a suggestion
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:05
640x480 baby
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ah such a privilege being able to play at 1280x1024 at mostly above 150 fps
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this game is so absurdly unoptimized
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:24
yeah
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valorant is the most optimised game
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old version of discord
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but its just the old program. it loads the latest stuff unfortunately :(
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fortunately
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legit old discord wasn't as good
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:25
its better
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but i'm not saying this is good either
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fuck no it wasn't better
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:25
it is
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the old layout used to be clunky and blocky (edited)
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:26
it was always rounded.
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when i joined in 2016 it wasn't entirely rounded
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:26
i joined in 2017
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looked like this when i joined
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not that different
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but honestly
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doesn't look better than this
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:27
its better in my opinnion
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the old titlebar is clunky asf
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🗑 🏀 👋👋
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lol
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:28
lol
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also that's one hell of a fucking miss
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0 arc (edited)
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hard brick
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:29
old electron versions/builds are much faster for some reason
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🏀 🗑 👋👋
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there
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Deformisani SAS 18/01/2022 13:30
how tf do you have 2 same fists (xd)
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Deformisani SAS
the old titlebar is clunky asf
ImSwordQueen 18/01/2022 13:48
until discord locked and you couldn't close it with the buttons
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(still you can't but shhh)
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Deformisani SAS
how tf do you have 2 same fists (xd)
Betajyst4094 18/01/2022 14:13
Damn genetic mutations
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Vruh 2
🗑 🏀 👋👋
Deleted User 18/01/2022 18:27
bruh
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vruh
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troll
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trol
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Vruh 2
🏀 🗑 👋👋
Deleted User 18/01/2022 18:28
betteh 🍵
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briish
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compuah
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@win32 do you know of any intel hd 4000 drivers for vista?
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i looked but couldnt find any
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I think you have to use an XP driver for that IGP.
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They did make one for x64 too.
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hmm ok
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Michael
@win32 do you know of any intel hd 4000 drivers for vista?
@Ximonite
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We have an early 7 driver that works
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I'm away at the moment, maybe Ximonite can share
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I have them on my t520
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I may have mixed it up with the 4400/4600.
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^^ @Michael
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Thanks, Xim
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I use it myself on my e6530 with a 3740qm
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Just don't try and use quicksync, it's bugged
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GPU acceleration in mpc is meh too
win5270 pinned a message to this channel. 19/01/2022 01:28
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#RadMorning 19/01/2022 10:07
gm
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Betajyst4094 19/01/2022 10:39
Yeah Garry's mod
Ximonite pinned a message to this channel. 19/01/2022 11:05
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Deformisani SAS 19/01/2022 13:30
beep beep beep
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finally a working build without srckit
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tho it did like to bsod a lot
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during boot screen
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so working but not very stable
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Deformisani SAS 19/01/2022 18:05
microsoft edge bar
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why? its pointless
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#RadMorning 19/01/2022 18:07
but you've already got a search in the taskbar
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Deformisani SAS 19/01/2022 18:10
which doesnt work
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also im on win 11
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 19/01/2022 18:52
at least you have the clock
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i saw a desktop where the clock wasnt here with the windows 10 taskbar
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#RadMorning
but you've already got a search in the taskbar
A search that doesn't reliably work, that is. (edited)
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#RadMorning 19/01/2022 19:07
that's true
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ImSwordQueen 19/01/2022 19:13
explorerpatcher gives you more settings
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weird that search doesn't work. it should
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Michael
Click to see attachment 🖼️
i think they did something in our school once when I was in elementary
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encouraging people to walk or cycle to school
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Deformisani SAS 20/01/2022 07:56
waiting for my teacher takes 45 min jesus
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i am currently writing the absolute worst code i've ever written
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#include <iostream> // Program that calculates the height of the ball relative to the ground while falling from a tower. // I don't exactly know how to implement this. int getValue() { // storage variable int height; // the prompt std::cout << "Enter the height of the tower in meters: "; std::cin >> height; // sends user input to height variable return height; // returns value from height variable to whatever calls upon it } int printResults(double height, int time) { if (height >= 0) { std::cout << "At " << time << " seconds, the ball is at: " << height << " meters\n"; } else { std::cout << "At " << time << " seconds, the ball is on the ground.\n"; } } double calcHeight(int time, int height) { const double gravity { 9.8 }; // This is probably wrong. It's 9.8 m/s², but i'm not sure what to do with that. double distFallen {height - gravity * (time * time)/2 }; // The formula for the distance fallen is gravity . time²/2. This should be correct, i suppose. // Example: the height of the tower is 100 and the time elapsed is 4 seconds: 100 - 9.8 * 16/2 = 21,6 printResults(distFallen, time); } int main() { // this is just shameful int height { getValue() }; calcHeight(0, height); calcHeight(1, height); calcHeight(2, height); calcHeight(3, height); calcHeight(4, height); calcHeight(5, height); } i had to think of ways of implementing this without any switch, for or while statement because the cpp tutorial didn't give that yet
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so may you forgive me
08:27
for this absolute abomination
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Betajyst4094 20/01/2022 08:27
Already learned things from there?
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some stuff yeah
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it works
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and it's close to the implementation they gave (i tried my best to not look at it)
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it took me a bit to realize what to do with the formula
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Vruh 2
i am currently writing the absolute worst code i've ever written
me in computer science class getting straight a's and writing horrible code
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troll
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#RadMorning 20/01/2022 10:21
Good morning!
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Betajyst4094 20/01/2022 10:23
Good morning
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just saw this screenshot
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something i noticed: "Microsoft Store for Windows XP"
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????
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looks unlegit
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pov windows xp with longhorn theme and windows 10 kernel and uwp app support
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trol
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Michael
just saw this screenshot
Deformisani SAS 20/01/2022 13:45
fun fact microsoft store for windows xp is actually real. but it was cut
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Deformisani SAS 20/01/2022 13:54
since the searchbar on ms store doesnt work for me a person on answers.microsoft.com said to either check for updates or run wsreset.exe in the run box
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#RadMorning 20/01/2022 14:51
Tom and Jerry!
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Betajyst4094 20/01/2022 14:54
Mislim da ne
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#RadMorning 20/01/2022 14:56
"Do you think anybody remembers us?" "I don't think so." (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 20/01/2022 14:56
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DeRosenberg 20/01/2022 15:32
xd
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21 lol
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more than a good run
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specially considering it was mostly useless
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Deformisani SAS 20/01/2022 16:41
it was on gpu driver cds for some reason
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for the 2070 i think
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some asus gpus yeah
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still very much useless
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Deformisani SAS 20/01/2022 16:41
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Vruh 2
some asus gpus yeah
Deformisani SAS 20/01/2022 16:42
a sus
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how tf is this running aero?
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If it's the 4th generation intergrated graphics, things have improved.
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hd graphics don't have dedicated memory
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they share with ram
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So the problem of aero is usually a memory one, not a processing one? Sure's strange. (edited)
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it's hd graphics -- it is capable of rendering aero
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and no it's not only memory
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Oh so it can be both.
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if you have a fucking riva tnt with a theoretical 1gb of vram
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it's still not gonna run
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it has to support pixel shaders 3 and directx 9 (or 10 i forgot)]
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and then of course have wddm drivers (edited)
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Yes, true.
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afaik all intel hd run aero...
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HD 4600 will most certainly run Aero, it's about as powerful as a GT 710
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Even HD 4000 displays Aero, I use an e6530 with only integrated graphics
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#RadMorning 20/01/2022 18:16
HD 4400 also supports Aero
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I have it on my i7-4600u
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 20/01/2022 18:28
it was on gpu driver cds for some reason
@Deformisani SAS https://youtu.be/HkV5WjV5qR0
(edited)
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Why even put Chrome on driver CDs?
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Its mass bundling with other products gave off the impression that it was a PUP.
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DeRosenberg 20/01/2022 18:32
Chrome isn't a thing that you buy, you get it for free
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Plus Chrome always updates sooo what's the point?
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Deformisani SAS 20/01/2022 19:01
@#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME yeah i watch michael mjd and when i saw google toolbar on the thumbnail i was like this has to be fake
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Betajyst4094 20/01/2022 20:34
Never thought this was a thing in firefox
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Deformisani SAS
@#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME yeah i watch michael mjd and when i saw google toolbar on the thumbnail i was like this has to be fake
a better question is why are driver discs even shipped with motherboards anymore
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given 95% of newer pcs lack an optical drive
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freedom would love this
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switched to debian linux
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no regrets
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finally rid of crapdows 10
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i put btrfs compression on my home partiton and tinkered with the settings so i get like double the space with almost no performance penalty
09:03
this is a big brain move
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DeRosenberg 21/01/2022 09:53
Ok sorry for asking this but I was currently thinking of studying in Montreal or Vancouver, which one is better for me? I would also work and live in either of these cities so I wanna ask before I do that.
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DeRosenberg 21/01/2022 10:05
Also yes I speak French if you want to ask
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docR
HD 4600 will most certainly run Aero, it's about as powerful as a GT 710
Deleted User 21/01/2022 10:12
uhhhhhh hd 2000 can run aero
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gma 950 can run aero
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sis mirrage 3 can run aero
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:15
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betterdiscord on nostalgicord 2020 (pain in the ass to get it to work)
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:41
uhhhhhh hd 2000 can run aero
@Deleted User i have a hd2400 pro
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ImSwordQueen 21/01/2022 10:41
What is nostalgicord
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:41
10:41
a discord client that removes all new stuff from discord
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lighter and faster on lower end pcs like mine
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Deformisani SAS
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 21/01/2022 10:41
thats ati
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:41
basically 2020 discord
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Deleted User 21/01/2022 10:41
not intel hd
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:42
oh
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Deformisani SAS
a discord client that removes all new stuff from discord
ImSwordQueen 21/01/2022 10:42
official website for that?
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:42
there isnt
10:42
couldnt find anything about this
10:42
daniel7689 gave me the download link
10:43
works flawlessly
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#RadMorning 21/01/2022 10:43
Hello
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:43
but it aint workin on vista exkernel
10:43
hello
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#RadMorning
Hello
Deleted User 21/01/2022 10:47
hello
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:48
best version of discord that works for now.
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:49
?
10:49
are you using the quote thing?
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the Door guy 21/01/2022 10:49
Im using quotes so it automatically pings
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:49
im using bd quotes on nostalgicord xd
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the Door guy 21/01/2022 10:50
was discord slower even before january?
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:50
hell yeah
10:50
im using a 2 y old client lmfao
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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 10:54
sus
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im a chedge user
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i never knew that this place was real
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You mean you thought all the non-abstract wallpapers to be fake? That would be a stretch. Also it's the haystack rock if you want to visit it sometimes. (edited)
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Deleted User 21/01/2022 11:16
what? i can also put a tv behind the monitor
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#RadMorning 21/01/2022 11:16
If it's a big TV, that is
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Yes, the example shown would be more than 50 inches.
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Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 11:20
that place is real
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even the original Hero wallpaper was a real picture
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#RadMorning 21/01/2022 11:23
Yeah
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If you count props in a lighting studio to be a real place.
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ImSwordQueen 21/01/2022 11:32
An official website not the download
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It's most likely just a fosscord modification. No official websites for it anywhere. (edited)
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not a real place sure, but the photo is real
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Yeah got the message.
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Deformisani SAS
Click to see attachment 🖼️
i forgot what the old profile thing used to look
13:44
holy shit
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A rare positive evolution.
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Deformisani SAS
sus
PrinzEugenThink
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technically not wrong OkayuSmug
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just not each other ofc
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also november 1st 😳
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did I predict the future in a way?
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ImSwordQueen
An official website not the download
Deformisani SAS 21/01/2022 17:56
there is no official site for it.
17:56
its probably dead
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the Door guy
Im using quotes so it automatically pings
ImSwordQueen 21/01/2022 17:57
You can ping with mentions too
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ImSwordQueen
An official website not the download
https://github.com/Nostalgicord I think this is the github
Discord Archival Project - Preserving the experience of (past) Discord - Nostalgicord
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no actual website it seems though
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Am folosit pentru prima dată Windows 2000 în 1999. Cu un AMD K6-2/350 și 96MB RAM la bord, mă încadram cu brio în specificațiile minime care indicau ca punct de pornire un Pentium 133Mhz și 64MB RAM. În același timp, Windows 98 cerea minim un procesor 486 DX2/66 și 16MB RAM. Chiar dacă aveai hardware-ul […]
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also pog
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found him from win-raid
19:31
its possible that the biostar-motherboard he has is more backwards compatible with older oses
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X470 with PCI hmm
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also, he used via sata and usb add-in cards
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obviously
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what the fuck
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what. the. fuck.
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how come a voodoo 3 has full hd
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the Door guy 21/01/2022 20:37
@Deformisani SAS how do i install betterdiscord on this client
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skip
how come a voodoo 3 has full hd
it can output 2048x1536@75hz
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way ahead of its time
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WinDVD
it can output 2048x1536@75hz
did the voodoo3 have directx
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did the voodoo3 have directx
up to DX8 with beta drivers and DX7 officially with latest drivers
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there were monitors that could output these resolutions at the time
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this isnt anything outside of spec
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there was even a monitor from 1995 that could do 1920x1200 iirc
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arialgirl
there was even a monitor from 1995 that could do 1920x1200 iirc
yeah viewsonic made some back then
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intergraph made a 1920x1080 one
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higher end trinitrons and viewsonics could def do high res
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gpus were the limitation at that time
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and of course readability
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i'd imagine being hard to read on a 17 or 20 '' viewsonic at 1920x1440
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Vruh 2
higher end trinitrons and viewsonics could def do high res
It's not about viewsonics and those, there are other equipment of course.
no actual website it seems though
Yeah just a modified repo.
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arialgirl
its possible that the biostar-motherboard he has is more backwards compatible with older oses
you think so?
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WinDVD
it can output 2048x1536@75hz
Deformisani SAS 22/01/2022 04:55
rename nostalgicord. exe to discord and the client will install
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my phones battery has 5000 things
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you pinged the wrong persons 🚎
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Deformisani SAS 22/01/2022 06:24
oof
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the Door guy
@Deformisani SAS how do i install betterdiscord on this client
Deformisani SAS 22/01/2022 06:24
rename nostalgicord.exe to discord.exe and put the discord location in bd to nostalgicord folder
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What even is that?
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where do you even obtain it?
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inb4 some custom skin someone made
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doesnt hold a candle to sab tho
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Scamdisk
doesnt hold a candle to sab tho
Deformisani SAS 22/01/2022 08:18
fluent metro
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docR
What even is that?
Deformisani SAS 22/01/2022 08:22
open shell with a custom skin start menu named fluent metro
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Scamdisk
doesnt hold a candle to sab tho
what is sab
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oh
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startallback
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i thought you used start11
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wouldnt use start11 on 11
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Deformisani SAS 22/01/2022 10:44
its horrible
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starall back is not a software.
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startisback is the result that google found for me and i used that program. its cool
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Deformisani SAS 22/01/2022 11:00
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no searchbar
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i used start11 to hide windows 10s searchbar because i couldnt find the code in registry
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Deformisani SAS
starall back is not a software.
ImSwordQueen 22/01/2022 11:14
🤔
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Deformisani SAS 22/01/2022 11:21
leethat
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ImSwordQueen 22/01/2022 11:22
Startallback.com is the official website
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Deformisani SAS 22/01/2022 11:23
wut
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google gave me results of startisback
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ImSwordQueen 22/01/2022 11:24
🤔
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Also piracy in the second result lol
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docR
you think so?
likely
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the Door guy 22/01/2022 12:33
does anyone here have an older version of dtm-08?
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i guess that's how it is then
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Deformisani SAS
google gave me results of startisback
startallback is how it's called now
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they renamed it cause now it modifies not just the start menu but also the taskbar and explorer windows
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ImSwordQueen 22/01/2022 15:14
startisback is for 8.x and 10
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startallback is for 11
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they are 2 different products still
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3*
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honestly i'm surprised it did even install on 22000
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decided to get a 775i65g and will build a second pc around it
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arialgirl
decided to get a 775i65g and will build a second pc around it
nice
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ImSwordQueen 23/01/2022 00:04
Official rules for Discord Nitro 5 Year Anniversary Giveaway on Twitter and Instagram
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whyyy whyyy whyyy whyyy whyyy
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#RadMorning 23/01/2022 07:24
gm
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that sure is a helluva lot of rules for 1 month of an online subscription
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DeRosenberg 23/01/2022 08:03
Fuck off with this giveaway
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It's not fair that countries that are mentioned only get it but not us
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Not Egypt, but every country
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is there even a third world country in that list?
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Discord is a gamers platform. Particularly geared at white 14 year olds from western countries
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kekk
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enter western music here
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Deformisani SAS 23/01/2022 10:30
for some reason this extension named youtube redux is a bit buggy on edge.
10:30
so scrolling down on the home page takes a bit of time to load videos and thumbnails while on chrome no issues with that
10:33
who remembers this og loading animation for videos?
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Betajyst4094 23/01/2022 10:53
I also recently discovered this extension and man it's good
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DeRosenberg
It's not fair that countries that are mentioned only get it but not us
ImSwordQueen 23/01/2022 10:54
Italy is not even on the list.
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Betajyst4094
I also recently discovered this extension and man it's good
Deformisani SAS 23/01/2022 10:58
i discovered it like 2 days ago
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its by the youtube dislike extension developer
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ImSwordQueen 23/01/2022 11:06
Nope
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Deformisani SAS 23/01/2022 11:34
bruh why is windows using a 2009 driver for my gpu
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cuz it's probably taken from the install dvd
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it did that with my gma x3100
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Deformisani SAS 23/01/2022 11:36
daniel7689 gave me a 2016 version of windows 7
11:37
lets see if it will crap up on minecraft or not because older drivers on minecraft = black textures and flickering black textures
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Deformisani SAS
bruh why is windows using a 2009 driver for my gpu
thats the default driver
11:40
just install one
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Deformisani SAS 23/01/2022 11:40
csgo ran fine and even counter strike source ran fine with this driver. but in counter strike source my cursor was invisible but its a outdated driver issue
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this time it gave a error
11:45
i dont think minecraft will run with default wddm driver
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Deformisani SAS 23/01/2022 11:46
im downloading the driver that amd is hosting
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eh
11:49
that'll work too
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Deformisani SAS 23/01/2022 11:49
installed the driver
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so does it work
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Deformisani SAS 23/01/2022 11:58
ye
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Deformisani SAS 23/01/2022 12:22
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I'm going to try YouTube Redix myself
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I like how YouTube looks, I just hate the infinite scrolling and how oversized everything is
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My favorite extension for YouTube is Enhancer For YouTube
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Gives me volume control with scroll wheel, let's me pick a default loading resolution, etc
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Wow. Redix is pretty good 😳
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I will be ignoring the windows 7 channel for the next while
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Betajyst4094 23/01/2022 20:42
Its fine down there You have uncle failed pharmacist monitor it
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ok cool
20:43
its just so hard to keep up with and I have schoolwork I’m supposed to be doing
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Betajyst4094 23/01/2022 20:43
Oh
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In that sense. Then do take your time
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Discord sure eats it away
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yep
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this youtube redix is fancy
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docR
this youtube redix is fancy
how do you make it like that?
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Download YouTube Redux for Firefox. Replicate old YouTube look and features within the modern layout!
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Download Enhancer for YouTube™ for Firefox. Take control of YouTube and boost your user experience!
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lot of options in enhancer
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i like to auto expand my vid descriptions and such
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Deformisani SAS 24/01/2022 11:13
mhm
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 24/01/2022 20:18
introducing the virtual boy pc
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docR
Click to see attachment 🖼️
#RadMorning 24/01/2022 22:05
I downloaded YT Redux too, it's pretty good
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now gn
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goodnight
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ImSwordQueen 24/01/2022 22:13
gn 👋 (edited)
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@Betajyst4094 just wanted to say. marvelous job on the 5252 theme! 🙂
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Indeed
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uh i dont think the taskbar is supposed to be in this part of setup
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@WinDVD try 98se2me instead
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seconded
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i can help
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im going to install that on the 775 pc im building
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its because of my cpu
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ryzen does not like 9X
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even in vm
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then its time to either use an emulator, or consider using another pc for win9x
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arialgirl
im going to install that on the 775 pc im building
775 pc, windows 98
03:40
this is epic 🚌
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Michael
775 pc, windows 98
fun fact: i was planning to settle on some pentium 4 socket 478 job, but a 775i65g was at a very reasonable price on ebay
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given how rare and sought after they are i pulled the trigger
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it essentially combines lga775 with the 865g chipset, which has agp and full win98 compatibilty
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i also have a 775 pc that can run 98
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an old dell dimension E510
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rocking a pentium D 945
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and these drivers should let me get solid video out https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2019/06/intel-945gm-display-driver-for-windows.html atleast from the igpu
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Random tidbit, but I found out my dads old pentium 4 pc from long ago had a biostar motherboard. I never knew what brand it was, but I remember it had the most generic ass looking drivers cd.
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Turns out these are biostar cds
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The motherboard itself looked very generic too, no brand at all
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And it failed in about 5 years
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they didnt try very hard
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 06:49
Good morning everyone
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inb4 just a mistake in basebrd.dll.mui
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because im sure the sku is different
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dism /online /get-currentedition should show something else
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you can install the server 2008 sha2 patch
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server home premium huh
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yup, 100% a mistake in basebrd.dll.mui
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its funny cause the default aero theme uses this wallpaper
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now try getting every server 2008 r2 update installed including esus trol (edited)
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i mean its already doing that via windows update lmfao
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its getting win server 2008 updates too
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wait is it installing 2020-01 or
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lemme check
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iirc home server 2011 eol'd earlier
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i cant check its already installing
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Scamdisk
iirc home server 2011 eol'd earlier
yeah 2016
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i do remember seeing an update published in 2017 in the update download list so
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welp
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maybe its cause i installed the SHA 256 update from server 2008
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maybe thats why it's confused and it installs newer updates than intended
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well it works out in the end lol
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try installing esus after trol
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will do
07:55
where is the link to that again
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mfw you can literally download them from update catalog
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these updates are gonna take about 2.5 million years to install
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but you still need a patch to install them
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huh i see Windows Home Server 2011 update rollup in the update list (edited)
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weird
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so it still knows its home server 2011
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arialgirl
And it failed in about 5 years
our old pc's mobo is literally still going
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from 2005
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@Betajyst4094 just wanted to say. marvelous job on the 5252 theme! 🙂
Betajyst4094 25/01/2022 09:47
Thanks bro
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V3 is due, very glad you guys liked it but some polishing is to take place (edited)
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they definitely tried hard
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 12:25
funny that 2011 is less supported than 2008 r2
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fun fact: like Windows 7 media, Server 2008 R2 media (no not the special 2011 stuff) have everything for every server sku
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tho seemnly not staged in the serverweb image
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 13:30
probably they were going to kill serverweb soon so there was no reason to have the packages for serverweb
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no, i mean everything that isn't ServerStandard, ServerEnterprise or ServerDatacenter in this list
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and there's more but the files for those are missing
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obivously it was done to not give access to those skus
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 13:36
huh weird
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the same amount of skus is in 7700 server too
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7700
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 13:52
i bet they were trying to remove starter/serverweb from a "sellable" sku
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after the failure of 7 starter
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for starter
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and serverweb because idk
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no, i don't mean that
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i mean the other skus in the files not been staged
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maybe MS didn't want people to know the truth
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 13:56
truth about what
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ya know
13:58
serverweb been a base sku
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and been able to get stuff like ServerMediumBusinessMessaging out of it
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 13:59
oh
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wasn't that obvious?
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to normies
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no
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 14:00
(like doesn't windows have both starter.xml and yoursku.xml in the windows folder)
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i think that was gone in later versions
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 14:00
on 10 yeah (edited)
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on 8.1 nope
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still here
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sbs 2011 standard install iso is like 6gb (edited)
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oh
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r1 background
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Scamdisk
r1 background
and r2
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is that based on Server 2003?
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no
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2008 R2
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Scamdisk
2008 R2
#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 25/01/2022 19:15
which in turn is the server version of windows 7
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ah wpf
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i like being able to render the aurora
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Vruh 2
ah wpf
ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 19:37
where did the start button go
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doesn't exist
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Gone
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ImSwordQueen 25/01/2022 19:40
whyyy
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Betajyst4094 25/01/2022 21:06
Was the lumen vs theme ported in the end? (edited)
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The one from announcements back then (edited)
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i'm pretty sure i have lumen on windows 7
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so yeah?
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Betajyst4094
Was the lumen vs theme ported in the end? (edited)
Mostly
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Marda did port it, but there are a few small caveats
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Maybe he'd let you finish the theme if you wanted. I have the files. It was secretly included in the Vista7 pack 🤫
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@docR so now that you have a vista capable™️ machine, wanna play among us?
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arialgirl
@docR so now that you have a vista capable™️ machine, wanna play among us?
I'm down for Among Us
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im just kidding, i dont play that game
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how about beamng.drive multiplayer?
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I need to buy that, still
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beam does work on vista with the extended kernel
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just fine
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But I game on 8.1
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oh cool
23:08
then you dont have to worry
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Well. I still need to install 8.1
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My 3610 isn't here just yet. I don't want to move an 8.1 install, because activation
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Vista I can because it's Loader'd
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arialgirl
how about beamng.drive multiplayer?
beammp destroys my computer
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absolutely trashes it
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Vruh 2
beammp destroys my computer
I would imagine
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Running about 10 cars on my 3700x causes 99% cpu usage
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With ai traffic
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Or was it more, I need to count
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Probably something like 20
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Deformisani SAS 26/01/2022 11:37
my pc was originally supposed to run windows vista. model of the fujitsu siemens pc is esprimo e5730
11:38
who tf gave me a low iq individual role?
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 26/01/2022 11:42
you use microsoft edge
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the chromium one not edgehtml
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RaduTek
Click to see attachment 🖼️
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12:22
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 12:40
Im no to say it again, no mems in generyne
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/j
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oh no
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it's coming
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 13:46
you don't want to upgrade to 11? we will make you
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they will make me 💀
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big trolling
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 13:49
mine
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this
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Deformisani SAS
who tf gave me a low iq individual role?
Not certain, but I've removed it for you
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME
the chromium one not edgehtml
Implying either is good trol
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 14:00
man look at my taskbar. what a beauty
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 26/01/2022 14:22
mfw when i use server build 22358
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so that i won't get those notifications
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besides it's a server os with a gui option in the setup
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 14:47
or because you're already running 11
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Deformisani SAS
who tf gave me a low iq individual role?
that's the edge role. you gave it to yourself.
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brb renaming the brave role to Really Low IQ Individual /s
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Okay let's stop with this snubbery
15:16
They're just minor variations of the same thing anyway, besides Firefox and the ManChild/Roy ones
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oh yeah we forgor to add a Male Poon role
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And Brave actually has a good adblocker built in, which is handy since Vista still can't install Chrome extensions. So that's my pick, but only when Firefox can't do something
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Scamdisk
oh yeah we forgor to add a Male Poon role
Yep
15:18
Well actually
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i don't trust brave still
15:18
too shady
15:19
way shadier than Chredge
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We had a Snail Moon role at one time, but removed it after the creeps bullied Theodore and dmca'd his git on questionable grounds
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still waiting for Morgzilla to sue MoonChild and Tobin (edited)
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Scamdisk
too shady
Over an optional rewards button? Chredge is forcing some Klarna-like thing into their browser lol
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Google is a self admitted data miner
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and opera is bing chilling browser
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Mozilla pulls a gamer moment now and again
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Opera is a bit sketchy
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I'm fond of Firefox
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Opera was great before they gave up on Pestro
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It truly was
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them giving up on pestro is why we are in the chromium sameness hell we are in today (edited)
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Firefox yeeted their powerful extensions platform after 56, but it's still friendlier than the chromes(R)
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The whole shell can be styled in CSS
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Obama Gaming
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i told you to not lock the channels 😔
15:24
rip 8r && w2010
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Vruh 2
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Just for that, the 7 channel is now on slow mode trol
15:25
You're right
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It's our democratic plot
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All hail Obama. Pledge to Satan
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Ximonite
that's the edge role. you gave it to yourself.
Deformisani SAS 26/01/2022 15:26
lmfao
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Deformisani SAS 26/01/2022 15:26
i wonder why gta the ballad of gay tony is the best dlc for multiplayer
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made a shitty calculator in c# wpf
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Scamdisk
way shadier than Chredge
ok no
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it works
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chredge is way worse
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Let's continue in 7 channel guys #windows-7
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still shady
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slim shady
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Ximonite
chredge is way worse
Deformisani SAS 26/01/2022 15:27
ch edge the best
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with the link jihacking for their shitty promo codes
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shady stuff can be turned off in brave
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slim shady
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Deformisani SAS 26/01/2022 15:27
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Brave is least shady Chrome, change my mind
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chromium
15:27
period
15:27
i don't like brave
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Ungoogled is kekk
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Advanced Chrome was awesome before it turned buggy
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yea even google chrome is shadier than brave imo
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everything is shady at this point
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winforms sucks and people should move to wpf trol
15:29
like i said
15:29
slim shady
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Anyway let's just agree to disagree. They're the same thi... Erm, moving on
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it's just a choice of which company to give your info to tbh
15:30
all pretty much the same
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firefox is shady at this point
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Chromiun is IE6 if Microsoft open sourced it, then Netscape would also be ie6 but more based
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Ximonite
all pretty much the same
This
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there is not a single browser that is not shady at this point
15:31
i guess librewolf but that's just fedora neckbeard shit
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Firefox you can harden easily, but then once you sign into Sync they own you. I cast my lot with them
15:31
Brave is my second, but with the questionable things turned off
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^^
15:31
icecat isn't shady at all but it also struggles to render basically any website trol (edited)
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icecat is basically stallman firefox
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Mainly for its adblocker. I don't actually care much. I just need a chrome with adblocking as a second browser
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i don't trust any adblocker except uBlock after adblocker plus was known to have the good ads shit
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I've switched among the chromes for years they all the goddamn same
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all of them are reskinned
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Vruh 2
i don't trust any adblocker except uBlock after adblocker plus was known to have the good ads shit
It's that or nothing, we can't install extensions. We've already established Firefox is my main, with ublock origin
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what about forking old ass webkit chrome with modern webkit but the same otherwise when /s
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hence even in brave or opera i would use ublock origin
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because i don't trust any other adblocker
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Scamdisk
what about forking old ass webkit chrome with modern webkit but the same otherwise when /s
Okay R*n trol
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does opera have a built in adblocker?
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iirc yeah?
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yes
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based
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unbased
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but opera is ching cheng hanji
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Opera is kind of sketchy though
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i feel like built in adblockers are just adblocker plus
15:34
good ads
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is it like brave where they hide the sketch switches around in the settings?
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or is it just always on sketch shit
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ublock origin is the defacto adblocker
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Brave has big bad scary rewards button, Opera's parent company is in one of the world's most totalitarian countries
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and Chredge is NSA shit
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brave rewards is completely optional and the button is real easy to hide
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Scamdisk
and Chredge is NSA shit
Everything is nsa shit
15:37
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yea
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anyway, sbs
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you don't want nsa shit?
15:37
might aswell use linux-libre
15:37
gnu icecat
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If it connects to the internet, it's nsa shit
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openwrt
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Linus Torvalds never denied there being back doors in the Linux kernel
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oh yeah to add in
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use a core 2 duo
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any cpu pre intel me
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yep
15:39
that sent way too late
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kanye
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bios mods can make intel me less scary
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we're going full tinfoil hat
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still hardwired in the cpus tho
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thinkpad with whatever the fuck the open source bios i've heard about
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I think I'll join the thinkpad family next laptop I get
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core 2 duo
15:41
gentoo with linux-libre
15:41
gnu icecat
15:41
openwrt in da router
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How about Vista or 8.1 kekk
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oh shit did you just explain how to become a neckbeard
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yeah
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tinfoil hat neckbeard
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Also I'm still kind of j9plan my laptop is actually a decade old
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4 core Ivy shit being old flush
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my main is literally 9 yo
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you’re really stretching the definition of a decade
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well near 9 yo
15:43
because i got in feb
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feb 2013
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Ximonite
you’re really stretching the definition of a decade
By a few months
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Why is it 9/10 year old hardware in 2022 is fine, but 10 year old hardware in 2012 was feelscringeman
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finally activated it back
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docR
Why is it 9/10 year old hardware in 2022 is fine, but 10 year old hardware in 2012 was feelscringeman
something happened between 2006
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docR
Why is it 9/10 year old hardware in 2022 is fine, but 10 year old hardware in 2012 was feelscringeman
hardware didn't change as much now as it did then
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sorry no
15:44
in 2006
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this little thing in 2006
15:44
is called core 2 duo
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So desktop components have kind of platead then
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yes
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10 year old hardware in 2012 was still usable
15:45
anything further hell no
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2002 was like
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dawn of pentium 4?
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why would you use a 486 in 2012 let alone today anyway
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how
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the 486 was like
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20 by that point?
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older?
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that's why it's a hell no
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23
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yeah 23 years old
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literally 33 yo now
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10 year old hardware in 2012 was early pentium 4
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Vruh 2
gnu icecat
ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:47
gnu icecat on windows trol
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athlon 64 was 9
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A P4 in 2012 😳
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athlon xp was around 10
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My dual core Athlon felt a little weak in 2012
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:47
a p4 was still a lot
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in 2012
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ye
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those processors would do okay for 2012
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not a lot
15:48
but okay
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even now you can still a P4 if you're an absolute maniac
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much like core 2 duo is okay today
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:48
btw more cores would never succeed trol (edited)
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I had a weak mobile core 2 duo that performed like a good desktop pentium 4 in 2012 and it was more than usable (edited)
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Now 10 year old hardware can be used for content creation and rendering feelscringeman
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which brings me to
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:49
an intel core 2 quad is still good for modern tasks unironically
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the core 2 duo is nearly 16
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brb gonna install final cut pro 2 on my mac mini to prove y'all wrong /s
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:49
i made a 3 minute video in 1080p 60fps on one
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the core 2 duo is nearly 16
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panic
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:49
WAIT WHAT
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much like vista is 15
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What will it take to kill this hardware? Javascript so dense it's heavier than transcoding an 8k video? kekk
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:50
waiting...
15:50
dont care
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ImSwordQueen
waiting...
If that crashes, it's probably cuda. Just a heads up
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ah yes, the basic fuck you to 8.1 users
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Scamdisk
ah yes, the basic fuck you to 8.1 users
Pfffft
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:51
7th generation
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slotted processors
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ah yes, pentium 2
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:51
holy shit
15:51
memz is 5 years old
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still don't have anything older than K7 (Athlon XP) in my posession
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:51
it can go to kindergarten
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windows 10 is 7 years old
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almost 7
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ImSwordQueen
memz is 5 years old
not surprising
15:52
feels like memz has been around for a long time imo
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i thought memz was from 2016?
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:52
it is
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also i have 6 years of steam service for some reason
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7 this year i guess
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i made my account december 5 2015
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Soo... The platea. Desktop computing just reached its peak, now it more or less is what it is?
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basically
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2nm processors
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kill off x86, go arm is what corporates want
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I remember how drastic hardware used to change every few years way back
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So we're at where we're at til we're forced onto ARM feelscringeman
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i just wish we could move away from x86 and the NT kernel in a way we still have the modularity of x86 machines
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alder lake might be the last noticeable jump in desktop performance until arm feelscringeman
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Vruh 2
i just wish we could move away from x86 and the NT kernel in a way we still have the modularity of x86 machines
I imagine that will exist, but he a niche for we folk who like to control our stuff
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it's already a niche
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Vruh 2
it's already a niche
Exactly lol
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just wait till manufacturers will be interested in making arm mobos with sockets and expansions slots for consumers
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:55
when x86_64 finally dies then vista dies too
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i tell you that won't happen
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:55
oh
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vista and 2000 will remain the best x86 oses as we move on to arm and we can only hope we get something better than NT
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which mind you
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is 33 years old at this point (edited)
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Scamdisk
just wait till manufacturers will be interested in making arm mobos with sockets and expansions slots for consumers
Stay on modular x86 until companies start retiring their new arm workstations, and scoop one up when the demand is low but supply is high lol
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windows nt began development in 1989
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That's why these fancy Ivy Xeon rigs are affordable
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:56
windows ot lol
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the best thing ms can come up with is NT in Rust (edited)
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rust is a safer version of C++ as far as i'm aware
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aka NTR
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it doesn't need to be rust
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Vruh 2
windows nt began development in 1989
only a year older than linux
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Ximonite
alder lake might be the last noticeable jump in desktop performance until arm feelscringeman
You think?
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well it's gonna be a Windows 10X kinda deal
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expected less locked down iirc
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the moment we move away from NT
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windows begins to evolve
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finally
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:57
but we lose vista
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oh
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we move from NT to NT except in Rust and the OS itself is like Windows 10X
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as long as we get a good stable and consistent experience on a new kernel
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 15:58
!brazil @Vruh 2 thinking that microsoft can do something good in the modern age unironically (edited)
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because as far as i'm aware windows has stagnated
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"newer" kernel, there's nothing new about NT rewritten in rust
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why does it need to be nt rewritten in rust
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because that's what MS is trying to do rn internally
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we're never moving from nt
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ever
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it's just getting rewritten in Rust
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this operating system is gonna remain stagnated for the rest of our lives
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and we're gonna stay on it
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or it's gonna be 10X but good
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as long as they keep shitting releases based on windows 10
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i9-12900K is unfathomably powerful ffs..... But. Holy hell. Thing is. Only an enthusiast would pay $600+ on a CPU alone. So where's the bar for entry? What's powerful by ordinary means? What are people expected to buy? Seems like most folks just settle on chromebooks feelscringeman
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i just need something to encode media with lol
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if they want power, they will just buy apple's M1 Macs
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desktop linux is never gonna pop off
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we're gonna stay forever on NT 10 based systems
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Scamdisk
if they want power, they will just buy apple's M1 Macs
Those are actually kind of based
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this is sadly what we're gonna endure for however long it takes for microsoft to lift their asses off and do something actually decent
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support is the issue
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schools literally buy chromebooks due to them been so fucking easy to lock down so kids can't have fun
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But with people using poop like that on average, these 10 year old Xeons are still powerful in comparison lol
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computers have stagnated and operating systems have also stagnated
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at most we'll get a move to arm and we'll remain on the same 33 year old foundation of an os which has remained mostly the same since 2015
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Vruh 2
at most we'll get a move to arm and we'll remain on the same 33 year old foundation of an os which has remained mostly the same since 2015
Yeah
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windows is forever staying on nt 10
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this is legit a torture
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A window manager, kb/mouse
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Same since the 90s
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My ray tracer is going to work on Windows 95 from the looks of it
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My ray tracer is going to work on Windows 95 from the looks of it
👀
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or we get hit with the "We swear it's not the same guys" aka WCOS aka Windows 10X and co (edited)
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if we get to the point of windows 14 still being NT 10 based
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i'm legit
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gonna break down
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Vruh 2
at most we'll get a move to arm and we'll remain on the same 33 year old foundation of an os which has remained mostly the same since 2015
Probably with some x86 instructions, like m1 incorporates
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Vruh 2
gonna break down
You'll be breaking down then lol
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it's not gonna be the same
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it is
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at most like you said
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a rewrite in rust
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and what the fuck is that gonna change really
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no i mean the switch to arm
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not NT
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Unless Microsoft wants to shift beers to Linux or similar, which I doubt
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too late
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we already have WoA
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which is already NT
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emulation != real deal
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To be fair CPUs will be powerful enough emulating x86 just won't even be a scuff
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meh still, the fact that arm is something that's going to shit beyond phones and tablets still scares me
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guess i have a stigma for arm
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what should scare you is how old x86 is
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arm isn't much newer
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Scamdisk
guess i have a stigma for arm
I do too! There is nothing about the ISV I find appealing.
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x86 - 1978 arm - 1985? yeah newer but not by much
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 16:10
arm64?
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And it's being used to try to fulfill the modern green agenda which considers GHG to be the only thing that could affect the environment. Everything else is fine, especially increased rare earth mineral mining to meet the demand of ARM devices that have short lifespans.
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 16:10
🤔
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risc v : (
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arm64 is just a 64 bit extension to arm
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just like x64 is a 64 bit extension to x86
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also reminder that IA-64 was a thing
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 16:10
ia-64 trol
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Scamdisk
x86 - 1978 arm - 1985? yeah newer but not by much
ARM has been around nearly as long, it just want used in the same manner
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also yeah i suppose it works on w7
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Slot machines and such ran off ARM
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not very backwards compatible as i built it for net 4.8 but hey
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You built that?
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port it to .net 4.0
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troll
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docR
You built that?
as indicative of my name in the about
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Scamdisk
port it to .net 4.0
probably a matter of changing the target to net 4.0 or 3.5
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missed oportunity to call it shittycalc tho
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not sure if i used any 4.8 specific feature
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/s
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missed oportunity to call it shittycalc tho
it is shitty yeah
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i just wanted to see if i could do a calculator in c# wpf
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notScamdisk BOT 26/01/2022 16:13
maybe change the target to .net 1.1 for extreme bruh /s
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i can't
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the joke
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3.5 is the oldest i could go
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guess it would work on 2000 with ext kernel at the earliest
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Deformisani SAS
i wonder why gta the ballad of gay tony is the best dlc for multiplayer
Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:17
Buzzard
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I need to see all locations where .NET exposes its version. It is possible that I could pass off 4.6.1 as 4.8.
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also yeah i suppose it works on w7
Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:21
Does it work on vista
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but i could make it work on vista
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:22
Let me see if it does
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it uses net 4.8
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:23
I have net 48
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I would like your .NET 4.8 version to try for when I attempt version spoofing .NET
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i do know it does it in a few spots in the registry
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try it
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pretty shitty and probably buggy but if that's what you want to try
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:24
megadeth
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hmmmm
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I thought it would have the .NET version check in the PE stub like a lot of .NET applications do.
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Betajyst4094
megadeth
Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:25
Works
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Vruh can you target 4.0?
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I need to make sure of something
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i can try
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should i shove ext kernel into sbs 2008 /s
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i'm gonna play it safe for now
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
that hresult code is not documented
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:27
Classic brazilman.
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
yeah
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let me check where fucktard is
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oh it's my menuitem
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🙂
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:28
So yeah
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Vruh 2
Click to see attachment 🖼️
i suppose this one targets 4.0
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does it
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:28
64 bit 4.8 apps do work just fine
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Is only 32 bit stuff that's often broken (edited)
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anything below 4.0 doesn't work
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as expected
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@win32 check where fucktard is
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are you reversing my calculator
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Is only 32 bit stuff that's often broken (edited)
want me to target 4.8 32 bit?
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:31
Yeah would be nice
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This is the first "64 bit" .NET framework application I have ever seen.
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I thought there was only one kind and the CLR for the appropriate platform would abstract everything just like with say, Java.
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I thought there was only one kind and the CLR for the appropriate platform would abstract everything just like with say, Java.
Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:33
Yeah not at all
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I was under the impression that the first two switches were used almost universally.
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and they are?
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:36
No
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Not used universally by everyone
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i went out of my way to enable x64
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because i said why not
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Every .NET application I had previously analyzed was a "PE32 .NET Assembly"
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:37
A dude on betawiki would compile his net stuff in x64 just because of me lol
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i know exactly who you're referring to
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who is it
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:38
I don't like saying names, but is mswin
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i thought he did lh net shit
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he does more than that sometimes
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Vruh 2
i thought he did lh net shit
Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:40
The earlier lh theme decompilers are cli net stuff
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oh right
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the Door guy 26/01/2022 16:41
is there a way to run arm .exe's on x64 windows?
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no
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:42
Closest bet is qemu
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There is a function that I implemented for .NET 4.8 on x64. But it breaks with 4.7 on x86...
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So I didn't bother implementing it yet.
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Betajyst4094
Closest bet is qemu
the Door guy 26/01/2022 16:43
can it run .exes that are from windows phone apps?
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:44
If you can get wp on it, then perhaps
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Can you even open exes in windows phone
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the Door guy 26/01/2022 16:44
xaps maybe?
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that's wp's appx
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the Door guy 26/01/2022 16:46
i meant something like running an app in a seperate window and not in a vm
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gee the naming in the EULA
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the Door guy 26/01/2022 16:50
i think the only way at most is running the arm exes on that funny 10 arm build or rt
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:51
Hey scamdisk, do you still have server 2003 binaries with encdecptr?
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no
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 16:52
Doh, shouldn't have removed set up source
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Windows Server 2008 Standard FE
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hmm yes
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 17:50
whyyy
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just had an upload fail too
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Betajyst4094 26/01/2022 17:51
Got logged out
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I was looking for something completely unrelated and ran into this (for those not on bw):
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 18:51
i had to take my acer aspire 5600 out and it has a 10 1511 installation that hasn't booted in almost 3 years
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4*
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and it had my old ms acc name too
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and it thinks it's still connected to it
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when i'm pretty sure i disconnected from it
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it has chrome too 💀
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ok the user account was created in 2016
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this installation is 5 years old
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holy
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i'm gonna do a backup of this drive before it dies or something
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 20:12
finished the backup
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@win32 so, modern steam on vista when?
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I think it is too 32 bit for that to happen soon.
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Deformisani SAS 26/01/2022 21:43
no more vista exkernel?
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 21:45
no more vista extended kernel.
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he is advising all extended kernel users to use vista7 instead
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tr
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fr tho I'm taking over vista kernel development for a while
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Deformisani SAS 26/01/2022 21:58
lmfao
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someone wrote sexy on that microsoft greetings 2000 software disc
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ImSwordKing BOT 26/01/2022 22:25
omg
Reply to: fr tho I'm taking over vista kernel development for a while
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ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 22:25
xim 32 bit support when trol
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zeem to night pls add function to vist kernel in syswow 😔🥺
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arialgirl
@win32 so, modern steam on vista when?
theres a 2020.10 client that works without the built in chromium store
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i've logged in and installed some games with it
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ImSwordQueen
he is advising all extended kernel users to use vista7 instead
hell no. means don't expect updates for the forseeable future, not necessarily in perpetuity
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and the kernel is mature enough to go without updates for a while
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this is his hobby, not his life
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and xim's doing some work on it now, yeah
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see, if i have to use another os for gaming, im going to end up using the other os, period
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arialgirl
see, if i have to use another os for gaming, im going to end up using the other os, period
then this isn't for you
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use 8.1, its good enough
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until steam drops support for it too clueless
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arialgirl
see, if i have to use another os for gaming, im going to end up using the other os, period
steam client isnt the problem, the 2020.10 client works
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i was playing project zomboid off it
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so what is the problem
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but the older 372 driver and 32-bit launchers fuck shit up. so not the greatest to gayum on
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tbh with the steam deck, steam on linux has gotten a lot better
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but the older 372 driver and 32-bit launchers fuck shit up. so not the greatest to gayum on
oh yeah, the avx nvidia bug
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it aint steam thats the problem, it works fine. but games after the mid 2010s are spotty
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either 32-bit launchers, the need for newer drivers. not even the latest drivers, but 400.x
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avx bug doesn't affect ivy
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and beaming does work
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32 big titty launchers
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ik
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so yeah
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its not terrible, but its spotty. good for everything but gaming really
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i do my gayming in dolphin primarily feelscringeman
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games aside, i can do everything else with it
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modern versions of vegas and all
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even obs
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my logitech gayyyming keyboard software even works
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My absolute favorite game, Space Engine doesn't have any silly launchers
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it uses opengl
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it works on vista
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then crashes over a fucking nvidia opengl related error, directly related to older nv drivers
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needs like 390 or higher
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if vista had geforce 390 or so i'd almost never boot 8.1
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as it stands i occasionally need 8.1
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as for steam client. thats never actually been an issue to date. there was the 2018 client, then someone patched a 2019 client, and now we're up to 2020.10
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tbh, with the existence of steam proton and wine-dxvk, porting newer functions esp. for gaming to older windows might become easier
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one issue with dxvk though, it needs a vulkan compatible driver
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tbh, with the existence of steam proton and wine-dxvk, porting newer functions esp. for gaming to older windows might become easier
yeah seriously
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one issue with dxvk though, it needs a vulkan compatible driver
we're only a few functions away from geforce 450 drivers iirc
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but since vista has dx11, it shouldnt be an issue
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32-bit will be a big milestone
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geforce 450 or so will just about bring us in line with 7 and 8.1, honestly
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vista is just barely trailing behind anymore
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next, win10
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and maybe later, win11
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i can see it reaching like 2016 windows 10 level lol
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afaik there are actually a few borrowed functions from 10 🤫
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hell no. means don't expect updates for the forseeable future, not necessarily in perpetuity
ImSwordQueen 26/01/2022 22:52
how to not get a joke 101
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@arialgirlif you wanted to vc, i can do a stream and show you steam and such
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we can vc
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want to do so now in the hal?
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ok
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@Scamdisk
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the most cursed
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ever
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ain't nothing much
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except this
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i'm an idiot
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hold on
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there
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 27/01/2022 10:29
that time when someone sent an email to 6000 people https://youtu.be/KWacGnaD42I?t=632 (edited)
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spotify rich presence thing actually working swag (edited)
12:29
got proper brave (not portable) working
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usually this only works for me with the desktop client
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also might investigate why chromium extensions don't work on vista soon tm
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fixed ResolveLocaleName and GetNamedLocaleHashNode and they're still broken
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openrgb works on vista, which is good cuz my kb needs it
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openrgb works on vista, which is good cuz my kb needs it
That's pretty good. I use the Logitech Gaming Software... Sounds like a bloated electron app, but it's actually fairly light weight and also runs on Vista lol
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Because Logitech is competent
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I'm curious to try that though
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I have a g305 kb
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there's also the newer G HUB which I guess is electron idk
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oh yea
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fuck
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though I'm not sure if the older Logitech Gaming Software supports the G305
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there's also the newer G HUB which I guess is electron idk
Oh I don't touch that one
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doesn't matter since G305 has no RGB
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The last one to support 7, the non g hub one is the good one
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The Logitech Options software for my mx master 2 works, too
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But the installer needs 7 spoof
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME
that time when someone sent an email to 6000 people https://youtu.be/KWacGnaD42I?t=632 (edited)
i get those all the time
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docR
The last one to support 7, the non g hub one is the good one
does that work with blue yeti mic?
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i need the logitech program for my blue yeti, one that works on win7
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ImSwordQueen
how to not get a joke 101
wtf is that new moon skin bro
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cursed
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ImSwordQueen 27/01/2022 18:23
based skin
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Michael
does that work with blue yeti mic?
I use a Snowball (not the ice), so I don't know
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I can test it, though
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I can test it, though
can u link me the one u use and ill try it
18:24
im interested in the noise supression and other effects that can be used
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since mine has a lot of background noise
18:58
This is a major event across Canada.
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There are several of these convoys that are going to converge on Parliament Hill on Saturday.
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Michael
can u link me the one u use and ill try it
I use software for my keyboard and mouse, I don't use anything for my Snowball. Occasionally Cablemeter, and that supports 2k lol
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Michael
im interested in the noise supression and other effects that can be used
Try Cablemeter
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And well, if you're dead serious about audio work, look into adjusting the acoustics of your room
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There's only so much software can do
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I'm not that serious ;p
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Used to have a pop filter that sat front of the mic, but I got fed the heck up with the dumb bolt always coming loose and it sagging down. So now it has the sock filter, for lack of better words lol
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And well, if you're dead serious about audio work, look into adjusting the acoustics of your room
i dont really have much i can do in that regard, my room is only about 10x10ft
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Oh damn
19:26
Well least there's less room for open air and random sounds
19:26
I can turn my Snowball on in vc quick. It always captures my clock ticking, which I leave unfiltered deliberately ;p
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So when I mute the clock stops ticking flush
19:28
Speaking of which I just had to adjust my clock
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we don't even have mechanical clocks anymore
19:29
phones and computers have taken over
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I seldom read time off analogue clock, but I like having one ticking beside the bed anyway. I just neglect to adjust the time
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That ends here
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i hate random sounds, the ticking of a clock could drive me insane
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Give or take a few mins, I'm not the master clock winder
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i hate random sounds, the ticking of a clock could drive me insane
I must have white noise around me
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I have tinnitus
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And inattentive ADHD
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So my wind wanders a lot
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for me the white noise is basically the spinning of the pc fans (edited)
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On top of ringing in dead silence
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So I need a clock, a fan 24/7, and perhaps some rain playing low vol off my speakers
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sucks to be you i guess
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I listen to a lot of music too
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Nawh
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I like it
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Not dead silence, but relative silence with some chill sounds around me
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I listen to music for hours at a time some days
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yeah same
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And the ringing isn't severe. Just enough to make me not fancy it
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i have a ~760 song playlist on spotify
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I know songs by their album
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Lol
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I count time on a non am/pm 24 hour clock on my electronics, yet insist on having analogue clocks around ;p
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I like clocks
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That can be turned around against me.. Anyway
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Analogue time telling devices, music, books libraries, and winvista
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it might (edited)
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Don’t turn off your PC
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arialgirl
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look it's intel's new box design
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Deformisani SAS 28/01/2022 09:40
gpu driver thinkin
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windows 10 ltsc with different touch
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for windows 10 it's a decent accomplishment
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nice themeing you got there
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the taskbar especially came out nice
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if only wb didn't break other third party programs (edited)
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im not using windowblinds tho
14:29
this is a uxtheme + openshell and oldnewexplorer
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also aero glass
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ik, i meant that caption buttons could had been better, but meh, impossible to fix them without WB
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ofc
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and WB breaks non-shitdock crap
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insert my windows vista theme for startisback
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There's only so much you can do with 10. That there is an impressive accomplishment
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ignoring the window not being themed in the second image
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ImSwordQueen 28/01/2022 16:41
windows with 10 libraries
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#RadMorning 28/01/2022 18:47
Hiya!
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ImSwordQueen 28/01/2022 18:59
hey
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 28/01/2022 23:31
ah yes, modernized u
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installed wmc 2005 is it supposed to come with the special theme?
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Don't think so.
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royale?
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idk
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yeah?
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if not check the cd
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@win32 do you have to patch winload.exe to load an unsigned kernel on windows 7?
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how would i go about doing that
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i tried to diff your winload.exe for vista to see how it works but winmerge says its identical to the stock one
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weird. I changed every mov xxx, 0xc0000428 to mov xxx, 0
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weird. I changed every mov xxx, 0xc0000428 to mov xxx, 0
can i do that with ida pro or do i need a hex editor or something else
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You could do it with a hex editor, but I can't remember the exact opcodes. You also have to set the PE checksum with cff explorer after patching.
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You could do it with a hex editor, but I can't remember the exact opcodes. You also have to set the PE checksum with cff explorer after patching.
hmm, is there an easier way to do that other than using a hex editor (edited)
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is there something that will just let me edit asm in a exe/dll (edited)
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Not really. ida pro could do this too, but you will end up using its hex editor to edit stuff
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hmm
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can u also send me that wrapper creator script thing u sent before
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plz
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thank you :)
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im trying to search for 0xc0000428 in ida pro but i cant find anything
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to patch winload
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oh i found it
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so i just need to change all of these 0xc0000428 to 0
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this is the type of thing im looking for right
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so how do i get an opcode out of this
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i assume its not just the one on the left
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go into the hex editor part, it will be synchronized to the instruction you're on. that's your opcode
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oh ok
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cool
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is there only 1 winload.exe or is there another one somewhere else?
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there is only one in system32 that is in use. there is another one in a subfolder but it's never used.
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and there is also winload.efi
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cool
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so is this what i want to use for example: B800000000
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this is mov eax,0x0
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cool
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ok winload.exe is patched
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now what should i do for the pe checksum thing @win32
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im gonna install cff explorer
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now what should i do for the pe checksum thing @win32
i assume i just need to change the md5 and sha-1 to the same ones as the original winload?
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or is there anything else i need to do
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no, as those would be wrong. what you need to do is go to "rebuilder", only check "update checksum", rebuild and save
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oh ok
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i already patched it against the original though, will it be fine if i leave it then just do update?
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i don't think so, as the cumulative updates have winload in them. also you need to set recoveryenabled to no in bcdedit, because windows 7 is really aggressive about replacing modded files
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hmm
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i did update checksum and they have changed so i think winload.exe is good
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now i will do winload.efi
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should i also update checksum on the efi file? @win32
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Not really. ida pro could do this too, but you will end up using its hex editor to edit stuff
Betajyst4094 29/01/2022 05:04
You can edit the assembly directly though?
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Betajyst4094 29/01/2022 05:11
By selecting the opcode you need
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Then edit > patch program > assemble
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Change anything you need, click ok and close the dialog that pops up after
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By selecting the opcode you need
thank you for the info, i know next to nothing about ida so this is useful
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the problem is that "assemble" is almost useless when it comes to anything that is not jumps. i don't think it can handle anything with 64 bit registers
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Betajyst4094 29/01/2022 05:24
Pretty sure I do remember using it for those
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how do i copy function names in ida for setexp.exe again
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im trying to do it but its outputting all the segments and other crap with it which i dont want (edited)
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oh dependency walker not ida pro
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i think
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yes dependency walker
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@win32 do you just use visual studio to make these wrappers?
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i cant get visual studio to find windows.h for some reason
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it just shows me pch.h and framework.h
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in my includes
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checked vc++ directories in project settings?
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apparently im missing the windows kits for some reason
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i have one but its only partial and doesnt have windows.h
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i think i need to use visual studio 2010 or something
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instead of the 2022 one that i have
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can vs 2010 compile a 64-bit kernel32 dll?
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yes, that's what was i used as it's presently the newest vs ide that works on vista, tho 2022 rc compilers are known to work too
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yes, that's what was i used as it's presently the newest vs ide that works on vista, tho 2022 rc compilers are known to work too
did you use the x86 one?
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from piratebay
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or some other
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i used the x64 compilers, which aren't enabled by default. i used the vs installer from MS on a win10 install, selected "build tools", copied them over, set some environment variables and got some basic stuff to compile. unfortunately it's really fucking hard to do it now
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...but if you mean using vs compilers in general for this kind of thing, they should all work from like vs6 and up, as the compiler/linker switches needed to make dlls not linked to like msvcrt should be in all versions
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i was just concerned if the compilers that come with vs2010 can compile a 64bit dll
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i assume kernel32 from system32 is 64bit
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everything in system32 must be for its native arch
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vs2005 and up should be able to do it, even though 2005 is a little tricky about the x64 stuff
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thank you
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:)
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i am going to try to convert the decompiled getversionexw C code from vista exkernel to C++ and make it work in windows 7 kernelbase.dll
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maybe its harder than i think it is
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ill see
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if that works i will also put some functions from windows 10 next
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i am going to try to convert the decompiled getversionexw C code from vista exkernel to C++ and make it work in windows 7 kernelbase.dll
@win32 its ok if i use that method in my kernel right? just wanted to make sure ur cool with it
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yeah, i did intend on using it in other oses eventually. unfortunately the vista thing is nowhere near perfect as you can see with our firefox 97 problems so..
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kk, i think it will maybe work better on 7 than vista, at least for now
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since 7 has more modern api's and all
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it is still missing many delay-loaded win8 functions used by the msvcrt runtime so some applications like web browsers may not respond as well
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it is still missing many delay-loaded win8 functions used by the msvcrt runtime so some applications like web browsers may not respond as well
well for now most things still support 7
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the main thing i was thinking it could be used for is python
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python 3.9.x+ requires windows 8.1 now
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that should be ok, i got the installer check bypassed on vista too
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@win32 how do i get the header that has RtlGetVersion and others in it? i read that i need windows ddk so i installed that but theres no include folder
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wait nevermind there is an include folder its just named different
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what header is RtlSetLastWin32Error in (edited)
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i don't think it has a header, but it's basically the same thing as setlasterror
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kk cool
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now i need to figure out these hibyte's in C++
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thats the last error i have
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i think this BaseRCNumber doesnt exist
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im not sure what its for
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that is ida notation that doesn't really work with a compiler. trying to remember what basercnumber, possibly something ida made up too
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this is for the expanded OSVERSIONINFOEXW struct.
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so i guess basercnumber is majorVersion in there?
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if i had to guess
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lemme guess, getting around office 2016+'s artificial block
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it's not majorversion. notice how the structure is treated like an array because it's normally a smaller structure. so the index 0 of the "array" holds the existing members of OSVERSIONINFOW. but if it's larger, the extra members are pushed into index 1. (edited)
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lemme guess, getting around office 2016+'s artificial block
not quite
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it's not majorversion. notice how the structure is treated like an array because it's normally a smaller structure. so the index 0 of the "array" holds the existing members of OSVERSIONINFOW. but if it's larger, the extra members are pushed into index 1. (edited)
hmm
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this is confusing lol
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so this would correspond to wSuiteMask in OSVERSIONINFOEXW
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so this would correspond to wSuiteMask in OSVERSIONINFOEXW
how did you get that?
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whats the logic there
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i have this error now too
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i have this error now too
i think this means i cant change anything in lpVersionInformation since its an argument of the function
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i was referring to the value on the left. in this case, i'm not sure the value comes from
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im not sure if this is even needed
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it looks like its not even using lpversioninformation
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for anything
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since its just an argument of the function
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its not usable globally i guess
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I just checked where BaseRCNumber comes from: some value very deep in the PEB. but you need a special custom header and library file to use it
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so what do i do lol
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i dont think this code even does anything anyways
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Betajyst4094 29/01/2022 06:55
Learn coding
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Michael
i dont think this code even does anything anyways
its not even using lpVersionInformation as far as i can tell
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after that point
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theres just a return 1 after it
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i dont think this code even does anything anyways
set it to VER_SUITE_TERMINAL
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set it to VER_SUITE_TERMINAL
how'd you gather that?
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Contains operating system version information. The information includes major and minor version numbers, a build number, a platform identifier, and information about product suites and the latest Service Pack installed on the system.
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oh ok
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my winddk is totally messed up i think
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im not sure what the deal is
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you will have to go into project settings to disable the precompiled header
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as for your includes are they like #include <ntddk.h> or "ntddk.h"?
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as for your includes are they like #include <ntddk.h> or "ntddk.h"?
#include <ntddk.h>
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if the ddk is in the vc++ directories it should be fine
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now i have this
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this is a mess lol
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these are all errors in crtdefs.h
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ok i almost fixed it i think
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now its telling me it cant open a bunch of source files
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i'm getting so tired now, but the directories must be the ones that contain the headers, not the ones that are one or two levels above
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so apparently winddk isnt meant to be used in visual studio
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im not sure how im supposed to get ntddk.h then if i cant use winddk
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you could use this: https://github.com/GeorgyFirsov/NtDll/ but it needs to be modified to add some functions like rtlgetversion (though it should be easy once you see how the other functions in the header work)
Header-only C++ library that provides user-friendly access to functions from NtDll.dll in Windows. - GitHub - GeorgyFirsov/NtDll: Header-only C++ library that provides user-friendly access to funct...
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or maybe you could use one that uses its own library to call ntdll directly, but those also lack stuff like rtlgetversion and it's a little harder to rebuild a lib
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or maybe you could use one that uses its own library to call ntdll directly, but those also lack stuff like rtlgetversion and it's a little harder to rebuild a lib
i think i figured it out with the help of stackoverflow
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so i need visual studio 2010 sp1 to compile this i think
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and sp1 was released as an online installer and of course the thing it downloads from is gone
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and microsoft is basically just like "Please use VS2019 as VS2010 is not compatible with windows anymore"
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rtm is doa on vista for me because the resource compiler always crashes
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Deformisani SAS 29/01/2022 12:28
installing pop os on my 320gb drive that i got for free. it had a german version of windows 7
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ImSwordQueen 29/01/2022 12:50
man. yesterday was a long time ago
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It tends to do it alot.
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 29/01/2022 13:18
firefox™
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So I’m able to initiate windows vista setup on my ryzen system by plugging the usb to one of the back ports
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Let’s see if this new motherboard has the same bsod issue, probably does
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It’s going to have the avx issue too like haswell+
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With kvm I was able to mask that out, but I’m too lazy to try kvm again.
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Has it installed?
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yes
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and it works
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i just need the intel lan driver
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ImSwordQueen 29/01/2022 14:35
Get a threadripper trol tr
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no
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ImSwordQueen 29/01/2022 14:35
It was a joke
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Now, installing the display driver
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@docR a few things
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need the latest extkern (this is just 6.0), also the ff fonts fix
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so far, no bsod knocks on wood
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need the latest extkern (this is just 6.0), also the ff fonts fix
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thx
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Install KB4474419 from there beforehand
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or it will 💀
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i think its already installed
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this is extkern 6
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thank you :)
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@win32 i got my dll to build >:O
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========== Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========
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:^)
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9k warnings
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Bad news @docR @win5270
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Bad pool header creeped up again
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It may be possible to thwart it by disabling the on-die controller…
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That’s really unfortunate though. From my current testing, vista otherwise runs just fine on ryzen (apart from the avx bugs)
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anyway, im booted back, im just gonna test games which have nothing to do with the bad pool header bs
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its also possible it got triggered because it seems everything is plugged into the dev_149c controller 💀
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gaming platform
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probably why
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and i know thats the on die controller
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because right next to the device is the psp module and hd audio thing
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both of which are obviously also on cpu
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Lol and just as I went to start my game it happened again…
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Anyway, it is what it is, until a more intricate fix for the problem is developed this is just going to be an issue
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hopefully soon i can swap over to dual socket ivy
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i am still kinda convinced it's the updated bios[
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well, this is an x570 motherboard
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what date is the bios
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oh wait
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its fairly upto date
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exactly
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i'm pretty sure these usb controller issues with older oses came with newer bios
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2021 and forward
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i mean i got reports of bsods in msfn from a while ago too
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Anyway I’ve given up. The game crashes on launch too, and it’s probably because of the avx bug
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Cuz it was working on kvm
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This platform isn’t usable on vista baremetal
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from the looks of that thread, youre going to have these bsods unless you have a very early platform
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1700x with a 2018 bios
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thatll work, or 2000 series with the same bios should work too
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my 2400g worked with xp using generic drivers using a 2020 bios
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early 2020 iirc
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both xp and 7 stopped working after i updated the bios
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i had to use real amd drivers
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@win32 so i got my kernel compiled and put it in, the OS will sit on CLASSPNP.SYS for a couple seconds and then reboot
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what does that mean
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this is what i have now
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i think maybe my dll isnt built properly
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i think its because of trying to use ntdll through getprocaddress which probably cant work in the kernel
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so i need to have ntdll as an import instead
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 29/01/2022 21:29
the program cant start but make it blue screen
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instead of an error message
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so i tested out this weird windows 10 to 7 mod that was showcased before, and they posted a proper link to it
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it actually is windows 10 1607 and they went the whole 9 yards to make it look like 7
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certified libraries moment
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(those work too)
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ok so now my imports are fine but the kernel still wont load
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i think i figured out why
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@Michael wait what are you trying to do?
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arialgirl
@Michael wait what are you trying to do?
making a kernel wrapper
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kernelbase.dll
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for vista?
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windows 7
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oh
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from this debug log it looks like its crashing on StartSystemThread with an access violation
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so something is fatally wrong
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but the only thing i changed was getversionex
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@Ximonite you have any clue as to whats going on?
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or is this out of your jurisdiction lol
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this is my source code
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i think my linker isnt adding my exports
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if i look in cff explorer they show but in ida pro i dont see them in the function list
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this is all i see in ida
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The exports are not really functions because they do nothing but forward to the other dll. So they don't appear in IDA unless you look at its "exports" view.
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oh ok
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im not sure what the access violation is then
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it says its on set power state or something
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Seems kinda strange. I know that the wrapper business gets more and more complicated with NT 6 and 64 bit in the equation. There are some other methods that can be used, but I'm not sure how to apply them to 7 and its kernelbase. I tried guiding someone else through it on 7 and he gave up iirc. He wasn't fucking around either, because he did write some other shit that works really nice on Vista/7
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Seems kinda strange. I know that the wrapper business gets more and more complicated with NT 6 and 64 bit in the equation. There are some other methods that can be used, but I'm not sure how to apply them to 7 and its kernelbase. I tried guiding someone else through it on 7 and he gave up iirc. He wasn't fucking around either, because he did write some other shit that works really nice on Vista/7
i tried to do it manually by editing the dll in hex but thats way over my head
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i might mess with xp instead of 7 for now since 5.x is probably easier
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i tried to do it manually by editing the dll in hex but thats way over my head
That might be the only way. And that only works well on 64 bit. I added/expanded sections, compiled dummy DLLs containing nothing but the new functions, extracted the hex code, pasted into the old DLL and refactored it.
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32 bit stuff on Vista works a little more like you were trying to do. But even that fucked up Windows installer a bit
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That might be the only way. And that only works well on 64 bit. I added/expanded sections, compiled dummy DLLs containing nothing but the new functions, extracted the hex code, pasted into the old DLL and refactored it.
hmm that actually doesnt sound too bad
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i wish this stuff was documented better
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information is scarce and is all over the place when it is available
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the issue i was having with editing hex manually is that the addresses in hex vs the ones ida was showing me were wrong
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i read ximonite's post about how its the difference between the addresses of the 2 functions backwards but thats not what i got when i subtracted the 2 functions and flipped it
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i wish this stuff was documented better
i agree. the only thing that could be worse than this is me only speaking Japanese or something
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the issue i was having with editing hex manually is that the addresses in hex vs the ones ida was showing me were wrong
There are two sets of addresses shown in IDA: offsets like hex editors show and the virtual addresses that are predominant
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There are two sets of addresses shown in IDA: offsets like hex editors show and the virtual addresses that are predominant
how can i view the hex editor style offsets?
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or whichever ones i need
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to change the offsets in the function calls
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how can i view the hex editor style offsets?
they're here:
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oh ok
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let me take a look in my ida
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@win32 it still doesnt give me the right address even after using those
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i think the windows hex calculator maybe is bugged
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for the imports, subtract the address for the instruction immediately after the import call from the import address
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for the imports, subtract the address for the instruction immediately after the import call from the import address
im looking at the ones for an assembly function call right now
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call cs:__imp_RtlGetVersion
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the start of the function is at 00002280h, the function call thing is at 00002296h, and the function its calling starts at 000471C8h
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no matter how i subtract it its not right
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This is what you should get for the offset to put in the import call. It has to be little endian, so the resulting opcode will be FF 15 2C 4F 04 00
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This is what you should get for the offset to put in the import call. It has to be little endian, so the resulting opcode will be FF 15 2C 4F 04 00
in hxd its telling me FF 15 2C 57 04 00
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this is just the original kernelbase.dll with no mods
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I'm confused... that is quite a different offset
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This is what you should get for the offset to put in the import call. It has to be little endian, so the resulting opcode will be FF 15 2C 4F 04 00
what calculator is this?
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21996 calc
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This is what you should get for the offset to put in the import call. It has to be little endian, so the resulting opcode will be FF 15 2C 4F 04 00
how did you get 229C out of that?
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its 2296
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229C is the start of the instruction after the import call. The offsets are based off those.
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oh ok
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yeah thats weird
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is the one in kernelbase.dll just wrong? (edited)
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that doesnt make sense
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i get the same result you did with this calculator im using
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44F2C
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it must be correct. where are these function calls again?
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it must be correct. where are these function calls again?
GetVersionExW in windows 7 64bit kernelbase.dll
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so what are you trying to call from getversionexw? or are you trying to call it?
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so what are you trying to call from getversionexw? or are you trying to call it?
im not trying to call anything, just trying to see how the addresses work in the existing code
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if you look at that function call thats already in GetVersionExW, thats the one we were looking at
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where the math doesnt add up on it
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rtlgetversion?
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which kernelbase version (as in 6.1.7601.xxxxx) is this?
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which kernelbase version (as in 6.1.7601.xxxxx) is this?
its just the one off my system, 6.1.7601.24545
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i'm drunk
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i actually forgot that i based my import call offset calculations on the RVA and not the raw offsets that are used in the hex editors
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as always
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i'ma watch voyager
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i actually forgot that i based my import call offset calculations on the RVA and not the raw offsets that are used in the hex editors
ok yeah, i get the right result if i do it that way
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thank you :)
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i think i might be able to patch this dll now with this method
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ok yeah, i get the right result if i do it that way
so the correct method is to do the rva subtraction and then convert it to little indian with this converter: https://www.scadacore.com/tools/programming-calculators/online-hex-converter/
Convert Hex values into Bytes, Ints, and Floats of different bit significance, Bit Endians, and byte significance for interfacing with unknown field devices
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and that will give you 2C 57 04 which is what the dll has in it
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FF 15 2C 57 04 00
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 11:08
Happy birthday to me
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happy bday
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happy birthday!
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ImSwordQueen
Happy birthday to me
Betajyst4094 30/01/2022 11:17
Happy birthday my man
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#RadMorning 30/01/2022 11:19
Happy birthday!
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 11:29
Tyty
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Happy birthday @ImSwordQueen !
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 11:39
Ty
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happy birthday
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DeRosenberg 30/01/2022 11:42
Happy birthday @ImSwordQueen
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Currently defrosting the car. It’s buried in snow of course.
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yesterday i was defrosting my dad's car with him
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there was no visible car at first
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and when we got to the inside it had iced up
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ImSwordQueen
Happy birthday to me
happy birthday!
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hope you have a very delicious cake
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ImSwordQueen
Happy birthday to me
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Happy Birthday
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 12:48
Ty guys (edited)
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the Door guy 30/01/2022 14:35
@ImSwordQueen Happy birthday!!
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 14:41
also happy bday to vista
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#RadMorning 30/01/2022 14:42
January 30th, 2007
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The roads were terrible today. Aside from having to get my car out of the snow, it was a slippery ride to work.
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Black ice everywhere.
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I’m glad I’m off tomorrow again lol
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Happy birthday! @ImSwordQueen
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 15:50
Ty
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happy birthday @ImSwordQueen
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 15:52
Ty
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@docR you’re still active in vc
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That shouldn't be
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Should be fixed now
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ImSwordQueen
also happy bday to vista
Deleted User 30/01/2022 19:49
YAY :D (edited)
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Happy Birthday Windows Vista!
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Betajyst4094 30/01/2022 19:55
Here's my amazingly awesome cake...
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 20:00
Cheese with salami
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*pepperoni
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 20:05
Same thing
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ImSwordQueen
Cheese with salami
Betajyst4094 30/01/2022 20:05
You once mistook my mspaint sun like that
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😦
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ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 20:06
you forgot the top part
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That's why
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how do i equip the wmc 2002 theme on my wmc installation
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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME 30/01/2022 20:31
when adguard blocks so many ads it displays as ∞
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ImSwordQueen
Ty guys (edited)
Deformisani SAS 30/01/2022 20:59
happy birthday
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ImSwordQueen
also happy bday to vista
Deformisani SAS 30/01/2022 20:59
how did you get discord to work on vista?
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Deformisani SAS 30/01/2022 21:08
what linux os should i install on my 320 gb hard disk?
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Back from work.
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Deformisani SAS
how did you get discord to work on vista?
You use the website on a browser
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Preferably a chromium based one, I would suggest brave.
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@win32 how do you change function calls when you're going backwards in a file?
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like when the function you're calling comes before the actual function call statement
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im looking at GetVersionExW where GetVersionExW_0 comes before it and it doesnt make any sense to me no matter how i calculate it
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If the function is in the file and not an import, you can just use the assemble option with "call GetVersionExW_0"
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If the function is in the file and not an import, you can just use the assemble option with "call GetVersionExW_0"
i cant easily do that because i get errors like this after patching the function into the dll (i think because the function calls arent right)
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maybe i did something wrong
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Yes, that shouldn't happen by simply changing an instruction. actually ida's hex editor is good for a lot of things except for copy/pasting more than 16 bytes
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Yes, that shouldn't happen by simply changing an instruction. actually ida's hex editor is good for a lot of things except for copy/pasting more than 16 bytes
this is what i put in, i put it after GetSystemDefaultSort
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this looks like it was placed in existing code. which section?
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this looks like it was placed in existing code. which section?
i put it right at the end of GetSystemDefaultSort (edited)
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hmm
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Does it go past 46BFF?
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Does it go past 46BFF?
46bff is the end of .text
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is that part of the function (GetSystemDefaultSort)
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No, that is mostly empty space. Actually you overwrote the debug directory, but the file should be fine without it.
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But there is one thing you should be careful about.
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A section's virtual size is almost always smaller than its raw size. The empty space accounts for the difference and anything past will not execute. So you will have to change the virtual size to be the same as the raw size.
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Preferably a chromium based one, I would suggest brave.
ImSwordQueen 30/01/2022 22:22
i used nativefier to make a discord "client". it works but it will log you off every time you close it
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so i choosen to use firefox
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A section's virtual size is almost always smaller than its raw size. The empty space accounts for the difference and anything past will not execute. So you will have to change the virtual size to be the same as the raw size.
how would i do that?
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you can do it in cff explorer. in "section headers" just change the virtual size to be the same as the raw size
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you can do it in cff explorer. in "section headers" just change the virtual size to be the same as the raw size
ok, i did it
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so i clicked through all those errors in ida and my function shows up like this in the code
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just a bunch of garbled mess
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right click at the beginning, click undefine
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then click "code"
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arialgirl
Preferably a chromium based one, I would suggest brave.
but how do u get app
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right click at the beginning, click undefine
i dont even think this is the same code (edited)
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no, that looks like a non-version related function...
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always make sure to download symbols when offered
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no, that looks like a non-version related function...
my code doesnt even appear to be in here
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always make sure to download symbols when offered
i have the symbols but when i added my function it messed up all the function names (edited)
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you looked at LCMapStringA, which is at offset 46110. Your function should be near 469A0. But with the errors IDA is reported and IDA not even resolving exported names, I think you destroyed the export table
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im not sure how i did that
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all i did was paste my function in after GetSystemDefaultSort (edited)
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I hope you did a "paste write" and not a "paste insert". paste insert puts new bytes and pushes existing bytes down
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I hope you did a "paste write" and not a "paste insert". paste insert puts new bytes and pushes existing bytes down
how do i do a paste write in hex editor neo
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i'm not sure about that one... i'll check it out
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it said Open (or create) the document you want to paste text to. Make sure the required encoding is selected. Navigate to the position where you want to paste text. Check the Insert Mode switch. Turn it OFF to overwrite existing document's data with Clipboard's data, or ON to make room for Clipboard's data. Make sure the text pane is visible and active (the cursor image has a frame around it). Execute the Edit » Paste command.
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i had it in insert mode to not overwrite existing data
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you have to "overwrite" data as in overwriting those empty bytes
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if i overwrote existing data i would end up writing into the debug area
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and idata
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the debug directory is not that important. if the function is small enough, it won't go into data. but if it is then you should consider adding a new section
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the debug directory is not that important. if the function is small enough, it won't go into data. but if it is then you should consider adding a new section
how would i add a new section
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because i plan to add more functions once i figure this out
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there's an easy way and a painful way. the easy way can be done for 64 bit (and if the file doesn't have resources people want to change, which is most of them thanks to *.mui)
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there's an easy way and a painful way. the easy way can be done for 64 bit (and if the file doesn't have resources people want to change, which is most of them thanks to *.mui)
can you show me both? i plan to do 32bit too
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how do i equip the wmc 2002 theme on my wmc installation
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can you show me both? i plan to do 32bit too
easy way: in cff explorer go to section headers. right click "new section (empty space)" put like 20000h bytes because you might need to end up moving the export table there if you add any completely new functions.
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and the hard way also involves the same steps, but requires going into a hex editor afterwards at the beginning of the file where the pe header is. you have to move the memory addresses around for the new section so that it's before rsrc and reloc. then you have to move the contents of rsrc and reloc to where rsrc and reloc have been pushed down, and move the entries for "resource directory" and "relocation directory" locations in the header to the new RVA locations of rsrc and reloc.
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and the hard way also involves the same steps, but requires going into a hex editor afterwards at the beginning of the file where the pe header is. you have to move the memory addresses around for the new section so that it's before rsrc and reloc. then you have to move the contents of rsrc and reloc to where rsrc and reloc have been pushed down, and move the entries for "resource directory" and "relocation directory" locations in the header to the new RVA locations of rsrc and reloc.
ok, now heres another question, how can i add imports?
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the version spoofing code needs GetPrivateProfileIntW which i currently dont have as an import
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that's really, really hard. it has been done on 32 bit, but it involves stuff like manually moving every import over to accommodate the new one. i started going with wrappers for that reason. i guess you will have to getprocaddress/loadlibrary with that
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that's really, really hard. it has been done on 32 bit, but it involves stuff like manually moving every import over to accommodate the new one. i started going with wrappers for that reason. i guess you will have to getprocaddress/loadlibrary with that
well the wrappers dont work on 6.1 lol
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what am i supposed to do
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I could keep colluding to give Vista an ever growing advantage over libraryOS... but again, BWC used getprocaddress(loadlibrary(kernel32.dll), "getprivateprofileintw") to get function pointers without having to touch the import table
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i see
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i read that uses a lot of cpu though?
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not really, most programs use that, even your kernelbase
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oh ok
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ill do that then
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ok so i added my function, now how can i add it as an export @win32 (edited)
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so that i can call it from my other function
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and i will also need to change the exports for getversionexw to add my new spoofer function
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not all functions have to be exported. which function is it?
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not all functions have to be exported. which function is it?
its GetPrivateProfileIntW
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i need to use it for my GetVersionExW spoofer so it has to be exported i think
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so that i can use patch > assemble to put it in
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@docR when do you wanna vc?
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im gonna finish eating
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so that i can use patch > assemble to put it in
to call it within the file, you actually don't
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to call it within the file, you actually don't
how would i call it then? it doesnt show in the function list
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does it have a name like sub_7ffff231240?
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you call it with that name
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i dont think so
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this is all i have
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as for moving the export table location of getversionexw, go to the export table view in cff explorer and change the "function RVA"
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the one above it is getversionexw i guess
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i also need to add the .xdata for osverini and others (edited)
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or you can just do a "call 7fff231250h". but you need to write the dll name and function name in a data section for loadlibrary/getprocaddress. kernel32.dll is already somewhere in there, while you will have to find some empty space for the function names. something like this:
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actually you can put the strings in the text section as they're not being written to
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oh ok
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@docR when do you wanna vc?
hmmmm. well i'm about to read
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but soon
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we can hop in now, but i'll be in and out soon
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Michael
oh ok
so how can i write the function names in there?
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no, id rather you wait if you wanna read
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we can discord later at night
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alright
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i think i can do it with a hex editor
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so how can i write the function names in there?
do it on the "text side" of a hex editor. keep the starting address handy and use the same rule to get the offsets for the lea instructions
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if you use loadlibraryexw they will be wide chars so it will be like "G.e.t."
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if you use loadlibraryexw they will be wide chars so it will be like "G.e.t."
can i just copy paste the hex out of the ida view for my compiled dll?
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i think that would be easier
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yeah
ok i did that, but its just reading "k" instead of "kernel32.dll"
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ok i think ive done it
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chromium browser moment
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or maybe discord is just that heavy
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lol
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the Door guy 31/01/2022 00:13
should i try brave
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i just use it for anything that sticks its nose up at firefox
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@win32 i think i did it but i have this weird error (edited)
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sub_7FF388E7467 endp ; sp-analysis failed
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well i put my kernel in and i get the same access violation crash that i got with the wrapper 🤔
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@win32
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same exact crash and stack trace and all
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is there something else i need to do for the kernel to boot?
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arialgirl
or maybe discord is just that heavy
it is
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well i put my kernel in and i get the same access violation crash that i got with the wrapper 🤔
1. I think you have put too many dots in the string for them to appear like that. I'd like to see the hex for that area. 2. Seem to be doing some weird stuff with the stack. You only grow/shrink the stack near the beginnings and ends of functions. 3. You should "call" functions, not "jmp" into them. In this case, code execution jumps into GetProcAddress and your function ends in there. 4. You are doing some very weird things with the add/enter/in instructions at the beginning of the function. You should modify the existing code in VC++ to incorporate the LoadLibrary/GetProcAddress stuff and modify the function calls accordingly as they will be calling the function pointer instead of the function itself. (edited)
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the Door guy 31/01/2022 03:06
could someone here remove all uwp exclusive functions? or is that impossible
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Michael
Click to see attachment 🖼️
@win32 i sent the hex right there
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Michael
@win32 i sent the hex right there
In this case, the dots must be hex code 00, not 2E as they represent the second part of the 32 bit char.
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In this case, the dots must be hex code 00, not 2E as they represent the second part of the 32 bit char.
if i make the dots 00 then it only reads k and not k.e.r.n.e.l.3.2...d.l.l
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weird, but that's the only valid type of "dot".
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reload the file and it will probably show it correctly then
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When I was much younger, my reading comprehension wasn't nearly as good as my ability to write. Apparently it is still the same way...
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weird, but that's the only valid type of "dot".
this is what i get when i write it like that
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That should be fine. But you haven't addressed the two other parameters in the function that come after the string:
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that might be confusing ida a bit
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@win32 i re-did my kernel but it still crashes with that same access violation error
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@dragogos welcome back
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yo
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give this guy the romanian role btw
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done
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thx
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yw
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meanwhile while my vm is downloading updates
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i want to show a build of server 2003 that i compiled
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for someones project
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dragogos
meanwhile while my vm is downloading updates
personally i like to use updatepack7r2 to update win7
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personally i like to use updatepack7r2 to update win7
if it ain't broke, don't fix it
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especially that it can create pre-updated iso files even with bypassesu integrated
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hm
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nice
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dragogos
if it ain't broke, don't fix it
yeah and this one downloads them from microsoft right?
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yeah
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pretty baller
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though i don't see why it's called wsusoffline if it requires internet connection
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dragogos
for someones project
here is bindows build 3792
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so it's fully complete?
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like the components?
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under the hood i didn't do much becasue i have no idea how i could import 7 entry points
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like the components?
eh
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few dlls didn't compile
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dragogos
under the hood i didn't do much becasue i have no idea how i could import 7 entry points
because i need like pretty clean c++ code
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dragogos
here is bindows build 3792
>registered to Linus Sebastian
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and 3793
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windows xp extended kernel when
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was a failure that made me like quit the project
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3793
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btw how did you guys make bindows?
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like how did you modify the os itself
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:08
get src code
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learn how to code
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btw how did you guys make bindows?
before we were reshacking stuff
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:08
find the stuff you want to mod
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then we decided to get the server 2003 source code
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and do whatever
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dragogos
before we were reshacking stuff
like extracting the cab files from setup and reshacking them?
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like extracting the cab files from setup and reshacking them?
yeah
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but how did you add like new software like mypal and stuff
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:09
automatic setup
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dragogos
and do whatever
we imported sp2 entry points
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:09
with the $oem$ folder
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ImSwordQueen
automatic setup
tell me about it
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ohhhh
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but how did you add like new software like mypal and stuff
we didn't add software at that time yet with nlite
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:09
on vista and up you can install them and then sysprep
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ImSwordQueen
on vista and up you can install them and then sysprep
you could do that on xp too
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ImSwordQueen
on vista and up you can install them and then sysprep
yeah i did just that
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:10
isn't that more difficult to do?
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ImSwordQueen
isn't that more difficult to do?
it's the same process
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do the things
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sysprep
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package in wim
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done
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:10
oh the xp wim thing
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yeah
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:11
i thought it was the i386 thing
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you can still pack it into a wim (edited)
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yeah
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and deploy it with like imagex
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or a longhorn installer
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:11
or the longhorn setup
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thats what i used to do with xp mods and it worked quite wonderfully
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longhorn setup sucked balls i never got that to work
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there was this modded longhorn 4074 installer called pantherxp
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but that had very bad documentation
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soooo
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i just used imagex
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so you compiled 2003 from source? neat
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arialgirl
so you compiled 2003 from source? neat
yup
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the source was incomplete from what i recall
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so he still had to put a few files in
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yeah
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ah
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like winlogon?
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ye
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was winlogon there
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no
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ok
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:13
if only we had oobe files
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would be nice if the vista source got leaked tr
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:13
oh
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and bad
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arialgirl
would be nice if the vista source got leaked tr
vista extended kernel development boosted by 600%
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:13
because vista src = a lot of projects die
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if i will get the compatibility components from windows 7
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that would be nice
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:13
yesn't
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to make like a server 2003 that has windows 7 compatibility
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the vista extended kernel is basically just a few dll's backported from 7
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it's still a monumental effort
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:14
i heard that win32 will stop vista's extended kerned if the src leaks
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but i doubt there will ever be a windows xp extended kernel
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cause you cant just drop a few win7 dlls in there to make it work
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i heard that win32 will stop vista's extended kerned if the src leaks
why (edited)
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but i doubt there will ever be a windows xp extended kernel
some betaarchive member did something
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because he will get accused of stealing the source?
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but i doubt there will ever be a windows xp extended kernel
there already is one (sorta), but it barely works
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the x64 one?
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its only for NT 5.2
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that allows running ripcord
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iirc
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because he will get accused of stealing the source?
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:14
yep
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x86 & x64
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one core api??
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yeah
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:15
one joke api you mean
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it only works on NT 5.2
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one core api is shit lol
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the 5.1 binaries are broken
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a guy i know tried installing it and never figured it out
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hoo boy
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this extended kernel is not keepin up
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wdym
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cause you cant just drop a few win7 dlls in there to make it work
Well that's not how Vista extended kernel works
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the xp one or idk
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The functions from within Windows 7 have to be backported to Vista
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right
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if only we had oobe files
actually oobe works if you dont mess with winlogon or pidgen
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You can't just drop 7 DLLs in Vista, that would just destroy the OS
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well i couldve figured lol
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actually oobe works if you dont mess with winlogon or pidgen
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:16
then why no 5.2 oobe 🥺
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its alot more work than that
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The functions from within Windows 7 have to be backported to Vista
yeah
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The only case where that actually does work is updating Windows Media Foundation
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You can copy those DLLs from Win7 to Vista and they work
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anyone know if winlogon needs to be patched to load a custom kernel32.dll?
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on xp
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so what exactly are the chances of like backporting the kernel functions from 7 into xp? trol
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so what exactly are the chances of like backporting the kernel functions from 7 into xp? trol
slim to none
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XP's kernel is just too different from Vista and newer for it to be feasible
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
uh
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hm
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yeah i see
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i think it needs to be patched
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5.2 does have a decent chance of having a fully working extended kernel someday, but 5.1? I dont see it
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meanwhile vista could get 8.x, hell even 10 functions ported over
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XP's kernel is just too different from Vista and newer for it to be feasible
maybe we could replace that with linux support?
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5.2 does have a decent chance of having a fully working extended kernel someday, but 5.1? I dont see it
what is 5.2 exactly?
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Linux is even more different
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windows server 2003?
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yes
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what is 5.2 exactly?
nt ver
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what is 5.2 exactly?
Server 2003 and XP x64
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nt ver
i know
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win5270
Server 2003 and XP x64
oh so only x64
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The NT 5.2 kernel was adopted in the development of Windows Vista
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Michael
@win32 i re-did my kernel but it still crashes with that same access violation error
You should just call loadlibraryexw/getprocaddress directly in your function. i don't think whatever way that is going to work very well
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is 32-bit server 2003 also nt 5.2?
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The NT 5.2 kernel was adopted in the development of Windows Vista
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:20
5.2 RC SP1* (edited)
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is 32-bit server 2003 also nt 5.2?
yes
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oh so only x64
Server 2003 x86 & x64, but the only version of XP that uses the 5.2 kernel is the Professional x64 Edition for amd64 CPUs
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yes
then just backport win7 functions to that trol
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if anyone
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win5270
Server 2003 x86 & x64, but the only version of XP that uses the 5.2 kernel is the Professional x64 Edition for amd64 CPUs
and also the second ia-64 version, but does ia-64 even count
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Server 2003 x86 & x64, but the only version of XP that uses the 5.2 kernel is the Professional x64 Edition for amd64 CPUs
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:20
and the IA64 one too
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but then that's just server 2003 without server stuff
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the first IA-64 XP was actually 5.1
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dragogos
if anyone
manages to backport to 5.2 in SOURCE, please send me the source files
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yeah which i didnt even know existed until i watched that pinball video
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Michael
anyone know if winlogon needs to be patched to load a custom kernel32.dll?
you don't need to patch anything on xp.
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:21
IA64 6.0 exists
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i knew there were 2 ia-64 xps before then
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:21
probably 6.1 too
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6.1 IA-64 does exist
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ImSwordQueen
IA64 6.0 exists
6.1 is like windows 7
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I knew there was one ia64 XP that was 5.1 based but didnt know about the 5.2 one
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the ia-64 version of Server 2008 R2
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like windows server 08 r2 ia64 exists
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yeah, that thing is a joke
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microsoft stripped it bare
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itanium was a failure from what i heard
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win5270
yeah, that thing is a joke
what thing?
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then killed the entire ia-64 arch off with NT 6.2
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dragogos
what thing?
server 2008 r2 ia
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win5270
server 2008 r2 ia
ohhh
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replacing it's remainings with arm32 stuff (edited)
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win5270
server 2008 r2 ia
it only had a web server i think lol
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Scamdisk
then killed the entire ia-64 arch off with NT 6.2
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:23
it was pretty much dead with 6.0 and 6.1
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like. it had nothing (edited)
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the IA64 branch got lucky to even get explorer
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though, super early builds of ia64 whistler are the closest thing to Windows 2000 x64 we'll ever see
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mfw there's one IA-64 build of client vista
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Scamdisk
replacing it's remainings with arm32 stuff (edited)
i mean ms made a windows 8 beta arm32
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that looks so cool tho
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:23
of course
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8 shipped in arm32 too
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Windows RT is just a SKU
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i just really want a phone that runs windows
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even if arm
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:24
get a 950xl
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imagine all the cool stuff you could have with windows on the go
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well, arm windows doesnt have all the support you think it does
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x86 windows though
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:25
(i saw gus doing stuff with the surface duo 1. so windows soon maybe?)
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funny how MS felt the need to port the start menu from windows 10 9841 to RT 8.1 w/ update 3 but they never ported it to Windows 8.1 which would have benefited way more from it
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arialgirl
well, arm windows doesnt have all the support you think it does
didn't it have x86 emulation
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Scamdisk
Click to see attachment 🖼️
proof: random Windows 10 build
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win5270
funny how MS felt the need to port the start menu from windows 10 9841 to RT 8.1 w/ update 3 but they never ported it to Windows 8.1 which would have benefited way more from it
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:25
because windows 8.1 will have the upgrade to 10
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that's like x64
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:25
meanwhile RT was stuck on 8.1
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meanwhile RT in 10 was a leftover
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didn't it have x86 emulation
iirc it wasnt all that good
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might be better nowadays
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ImSwordQueen
because windows 8.1 will have the upgrade to 10
yeah but the start screen is better than that menu for tablets, where RT would be used
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that got nuked in 1703
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:26
the only build of 10 in arm32 is timebombed as well
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arialgirl
might be better nowadays
i think mutahar did a vid on running win10 arm in a virtual machine on an m1 mac
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win5270
yeah but the start screen is better than that menu for tablets, where RT would be used
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:26
microsoft wanting money
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you could offline cook it tho
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the Door guy 31/01/2022 15:26
i have several .xap's that have a arm only exe
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maybe you could try or smth
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i think mutahar did a vid on running win10 arm in a virtual machine on an m1 mac
and that had x86 emulation im pretty sure
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even in a vm it ran games quite well
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though my mind could be deceiving me and i could be talking complete gibberish
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inb4 because qemu
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hm
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the Door guy 31/01/2022 15:27
@Scamdisk you have a arm vm right?
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random skus
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the Door guy
@Scamdisk you have a arm vm right?
no
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the only time i trully got to fuck around with arm shit was 10586.1000 serverweb arm64
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:28
funny
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Scamdisk
the only time i trully got to fuck around with arm shit was 10586.1000 serverweb arm64
the Door guy 31/01/2022 15:28
do you still have that
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no
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vista extended kernel development boosted by 600%
Betajyst4094 31/01/2022 15:29
Eh
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Scamdisk
no
damn
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Betajyst4094 31/01/2022 15:29
Extended kernel development = reduced to neutrons
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win32 said he would immediatly halt kernel dev if src leaked
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the Door guy 31/01/2022 15:29
is it possible to turn a x64 uwp exe into a standard exe?
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via removing some functions
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Scamdisk
win32 said he would immediatly halt kernel dev if src leaked
but hey what are the chances of another leak
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actually nah, any NT6src leak (except prereset LH) would be a catastrophe
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but hey what are the chances of another leak
Betajyst4094 31/01/2022 15:30
Not impossible, that's enough for concern
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idk of any NT6src circulating around
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but i do know Windows 10 1511 src is circulating in private circles
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Scamdisk
idk of any NT6src circulating around
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:31
probably a 10 one was
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Betajyst4094
Not impossible, that's enough for concern
possible? yes likely? no
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Scamdisk
but i do know Windows 10 1511 src is circulating in private circles
wait what
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i won't give you anymore info
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:32
the betaarchive incident trol
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totally not suspicious
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possible? yes likely? no
Betajyst4094 31/01/2022 15:32
As long as it isn't 0
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Scamdisk
actually nah, any NT6src leak (except prereset LH) would be a catastrophe
yeah, because 7/8/10/11 still use the vista kernel.. so if vista leaks.. we'd be fucked
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totally not suspicious
totally
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oh i bet it's like the shared source
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ImSwordQueen
the betaarchive incident trol
just how many more bad things can i hear about that site
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iirc it's said to be the real src or some shit, but meh idk
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all i heard was it circulating in private circles
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win5270
yeah, because 7/8/10/11 still use the vista kernel.. so if vista leaks.. we'd be fucked
i'd literally move over to linux
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probably shared source
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i have windows 10 shared source anyway
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prereset lh src leak, that's welcome
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even if it's spaghetti code
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the Door guy
is it possible to turn a x64 uwp exe into a standard exe?
the Door guy 31/01/2022 15:34
i dont think its possible (talking to reply)
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but post reset doom
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the Door guy
i dont think its possible (talking to reply)
basically no
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no
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Scamdisk
but post reset doom
unless its build 5000/5001
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unless you're maybe really high
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since that's just server 2003
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with no mods basically
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if build 4093 source leaks
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that would be
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Betajyst4094 31/01/2022 15:34
Kinda curious to observe ms' actions over a hypothetical situation of vista leak (edited)
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great
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there's some internal changes in those iirc
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if the leak happens to be prereset, they won't do much
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brb gonna restart windows to see if i get transparency back
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but if it's 6000src
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hell will break loose
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then it's time to move onto linux
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yeah
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way too many things are based on vista
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that cant happen
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or we're doomed
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even a random build of a OS newer than vista's src leaking would be doomsday
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didn't they rewrite the kernel in windows 7?
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the kernel hasnt been rewritten since vista
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ok
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they did merge some shit around
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but no big rewrite
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there we go my transparency is back
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i have no clue why windows does this
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until last year, as iirc they started working on a rust rewrite of the kernel
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but sometimes the fluent ui just doesnt kick in
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for use on a Windows 10X-like OS
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so x86-64 windows will still use the vista kernel
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yeah, i dont see that changing anytime soon either
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vista's kernel is kinda futureproof
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well only non-WCOS windows (Server/Embedded shit) will use the vista kernel
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wcos will use the one written in rust
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unless they will use the rust one on everything
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Scamdisk
until last year, as iirc they started working on a rust rewrite of the kernel
that is just a recipe for disaster
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trol
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Scamdisk
unless they will use the rust one on everything
hope not
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that sounds like disaster alright
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otherwise vista's extended kernel development will come to a halt once shit starts dropping vista-based OSes
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but either way that'll be a long time from now so i'm not worried about it
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the vista kernel isnt going anywhere for a while
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also wcos on consumer desktop was always a disaster
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Polaris, 10X
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both cancelled
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i dont remember what polaris was
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same idea as 10X iirc
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windows' biggest advantage is compatibility, which means it makes sense to stick with the nt6 kernel
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yeah exactly
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but that has the drawback of inconsistencies
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which people will bitch about till end of time
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they already got enough backlash from rewriting the kernel with vista and breaking a lot of legacy shit
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it's essentially why all other non-win32 based windows platforms flopped
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windows phone, 10x, you name it
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Windows RT was full Windows
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except it had a stupid restriction
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windows phone, 10x, you name it
no compatibility, very small userbase, no one was gonna make apps for them
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it would had succeeded if it wasn't for the stupid restriction of it only running ms signed win32 apps
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 15:43
Windows phone is still nt and not core os
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Scamdisk
but that has the drawback of inconsistencies
ui inconsistency?
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yes
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that was hardly an issue until windows 8
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i know a few people who bitch about it quite a lot
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before that it was just icons here and there mostly
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but then 10 came along and... yeah
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it's hardly a issue in 8 too
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despite the 7 icons in desktop
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win5270
that was hardly an issue until windows 8
what about the massive consistency gap between the metro start menu and the win32 components
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i mean
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and flat icons in metro
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they're fundamentally different
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win5270
but then 10 came along and... yeah
they've sorta fixed it by now
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what about the massive consistency gap between the metro start menu and the win32 components
no like i meant windows 8 introduced bigger issues
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the "deep" parts of it are still mostly untouched
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windows 7 and older were quite consistent
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windows 7 is basically perfect in terms of consistency
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only like the device manager is the old one
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vista too
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just a few server 2003 icons leftover
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my only gripe with consistency in win10 is the start menu
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XP had a lot of 2000 icons leftover however
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my only gripe with consistency in win10 is the start menu
despite the dark mode it is still blindingly white
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and the settings are scattered across two apps
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XP is where inconsistencies in windows trully started
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that's what xpize and vize are for lol
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sure it was a problem on older versions but they blended in so well it wasnt a issue
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early mac os x troll
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what is the best way to emulate os x on windows?
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qemu
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for ppc ones
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thought qemu on windows is bad?
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and vmware for intel ones
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seems legit lol
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ah yes, shitty mod
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Scamdisk
and vmware for intel ones
dont you need to patch it in a way?
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yes
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god they used the win2k welcome
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did they really copy the stupid 2000 welcome thing in and make it say windows 9
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lmao
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they did
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Scamdisk
yes
tell me about it
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Windows 9 was based on Windows 9 Technical Preview build 9834Updates and changes:Update 1 (09.08.2021)What was changed: A 32-bit version has been...
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it's literally
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an edit of win10 tp
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KEKW
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VMware Workstation macOS . Contribute to paolo-projects/unlocker development by creating an account on GitHub.
VMware EFI macOS. Contribute to sakurayz/efi-unlocker development by creating an account on GitHub.
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10.4 is a clusterfuck to get working iirc
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looks nice
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i could probably try to get mavericks running
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the intel 10.4 that is
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ppc 10.4 is qemu teritory
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you either use server or modify one of the recovery disks to accept VMware7,1 during install (edited)
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but not just that
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you gotta spoof some core 2 duo
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with this junkfest
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in the vmx file
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most of this shit is just xp
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Scamdisk
in the vmx file
how tf do people even figure this out
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like the 0's and 1's?
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im not interested in xp, ive used it a million times for a million years
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lot of beer
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i found this shit on macrumors
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:01
This is what windows 8 RTM was going to be if microsoft kept Aero effects and windows 8 Release preview style.this mod is based on Windows 8 Professional Build...
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i tried that on vmware. very nice, but it was a little broken
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngJ9q9wHcS0 for modifying client intel tiger recovery disk stuff for specific mac models to work with others and vmware
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win5270
i tried that on vmware. very nice, but it was a little broken
the aero was glitchy but that was probably just vmware being stupid
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:04
vmware 12 being an ass
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tiger is something else and installing vmtools won't work because tiger isn't supported officially by vmware anyway
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:05
you should use tools from 15.x.x
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This Things. Was Based on Windows 10 Wayne Nathaniel 2005 Gold Edition Ver 2022. Things are Pretty Looks Similar But It has A Lot of Removed Features. Such as...
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i also had to run installers as admin to get programs to install, or else it would error out
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This guy got 21h2 and uh
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Yeah
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all i can say is.. why lol
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:07
i bet it's just
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server core
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It even had the classic theme
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:07
with a branding change
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aerolite completly removed
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im trying this rn
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hope the stupid key works
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It’s windows 2000 pro, I got a universal key if it doesn’t (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:08
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Lol
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:09
a the xp screensaver
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ImSwordQueen
Click to see attachment 🖼️
omg the windows xp screensaver
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What an advancement
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:09
16:10
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ah yes. removed bloatware to include more bloatware
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and eye cancer
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Damn I dont know how to use it at home 😭
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win5270
im trying this rn
is that firefox quantum with glassmyfox
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:10
imagine if the ssd optimizations kills ssds instead
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I forgor how 💀
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is that firefox quantum with glassmyfox
yes
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:12
god is dead
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this guy modified basebrd so killing activation
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but not the name
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💀
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how
The themes I share here are creaed for my own personal use and enjoyment. If you like what you see, feel free to help yourself to any of the themes shared! :smi
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That’s the rtm version of windows 10, tf is he doing calling it the 2022 version
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this is what i use
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arialgirl
That’s the rtm version of windows 10, tf is he doing calling it the 2022 version
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:13
he made it in 2021 as well
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so its not glassmyfox
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its just a custom css theme
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:13
also i hope the creator isn't 16
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because holy fuck
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such improvements
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tartan calendar my beloved
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:14
the "gold" version
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aka the poor people's 7
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Well I’m gonna see for myself how fucked the “console” edition is
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He also created a windows 10 gold, somehow managing to make win10 look uglier
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trying alphabetas now
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:18
As of You heard. Windows 8 is Hated by Many. Because of it's Start button Removal, Full screen Start menu and Forcing users to use the Full screen Tablet UI....
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nightmares
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oh god... where have i seen this shit before?
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@win5270
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lmao
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why
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try and install extkern on it
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arialgirl
try and install extkern on it
it'll probably tear the whole thing up lol
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yay the product key worked
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
Betajyst4094 31/01/2022 16:28
This looks like something out of a fever dream
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it doesnt use the bootscreen advertised tho
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oh boy
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here we go
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arialgirl
oh god... where have i seen this shit before?
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 16:29
that's the "classic" logonUI without dwm
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if dwm is absent
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
whats this
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arialgirl
oh god... where have i seen this shit before?
consolelogon
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someone's shitty mod of win10
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dragogos
consolelogon
it's used in hyper-v os dingus
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and i think in some versions of windows server core?
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it could be also enabled in the registry
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in windows 10
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it's a reference to this windows 10 to 7 mod which had the exact same thing
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very "welcoming"
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anyway whats the link to this mod
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windows server core since 2016 used consolelogin anyway
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like all of it
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i wanna explore this masterpiece of shit
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here
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trying to get vmware tools on here rn
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i got vmware tools working with the 4.0.0 iso and reinstalling installer 3.1
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looks like a stripped down win2k
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@win32 i did what you said and my kernel still doesnt work
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same exact access violation crash still
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i think its something to do with winload or something and not the kernel itself
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i googled around and apparently winload was updated some time recently for windows 7
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@win5270 my guess as to why the bootscreen didnt work is because we installed win2k with 2 cores lol
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im gonna try to get an old winload from an old windows 7 iso and then patch that accordingly
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that causes the MP ntoskrnl and hal to be copied
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which are likely not modified
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ah yeah makes sense
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can you send me the link for the tools iso you used
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i aint having luck
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Michael
i think its something to do with winload or something and not the kernel itself
I don't think so. winload does not check the integrity of kernel32/kernelbase.
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win32
I don't think so. winload does not check the integrity of kernel32/kernelbase.
well then how come i get this same exact access violation and stack trace with kernelbase wrapper as well as various patched versions
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can you send me the link for the tools iso you used
ill send you the file on tele
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you should have it now. first thing youll want to do is go into the disc's directory and run instmsiw, because you have to reinstall windows installer
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Michael
im gonna try to get an old winload from an old windows 7 iso and then patch that accordingly
nope, no dice
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despite all the hacking away, this shit takes up more space than revios does
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Michael
well then how come i get this same exact access violation and stack trace with kernelbase wrapper as well as various patched versions
I still don't know how that could happen. Indeed, no one has attempted an extension for the kernel32/kernelbase split era, and thus we are not aware of any specific issues that introduces. There were so many things that popped up in the Vista extended kernel development that seemed quite weird and really shaped the methods and prospects for the project. I can't imagine what Windows 7 has in store for you.
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despite all the hacking away, this shit takes up more space than revios does
jesus wtf is that
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I still don't know how that could happen. Indeed, no one has attempted an extension for the kernel32/kernelbase split era, and thus we are not aware of any specific issues that introduces. There were so many things that popped up in the Vista extended kernel development that seemed quite weird and really shaped the methods and prospects for the project. I can't imagine what Windows 7 has in store for you.
rip
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thats what it is
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anyway, just use revios or ltsc if you want a lighter and better win10
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ltsb 2016 is pretty good
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most software runs just fine on it
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arialgirl
despite all the hacking away, this shit takes up more space than revios does
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 17:10
that's the same space size as vanilla windows 10
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Michael
rip
The biggest one was doing things the way bwc did on x86 and I did on x64, in my WOW64 files. Then I tried running programs and every import call would fail. No remedy could be found, aside from making a franken hybrid ntdll/kernel32 with no imports. But it's very hard to replicate all kinds of massive functions in a special file.
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the problem with win10 1607 is certain newer gpus not working (even though win7 or 8 work), nvidia and amd block 10 1607 on their gpu drivers. of course, i doubt anyone here has anything newer than pascal (especially in the current market)
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me who mains a literal 9800 gt in my desktop
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i do have a 1660ti laptop but i dont use it for much
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yeah that gpu wouldnt work in 1607 without a modified driver - even the 7/8.1 driver block it for some reason
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it installs but throws a code 43
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arialgirl
yeah that gpu wouldnt work in 1607 without a modified driver - even the 7/8.1 driver block it for some reason
the 1660ti?
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yes
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i have currently vanilla win10 on this laptop
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arialgirl
the problem with win10 1607 is certain newer gpus not working (even though win7 or 8 work), nvidia and amd block 10 1607 on their gpu drivers. of course, i doubt anyone here has anything newer than pascal (especially in the current market)
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 17:13
even 8.0?
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planning to install iot ltsc though
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no, win8 would work
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planning to install iot ltsc though
probably once i get more storage on it
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1809 ltsc is unaffected by this. im guessing this is due to the new dch driver model that came out in 1709 (edited)
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 17:14
i finally upgraded my hp g62 to an ssd so windows 10/11 wouldn't lag on it
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also, i dont think this affects any other hw device apart from gpus
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ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 17:14
so i have more storage to do things
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as the DCH model is only for those
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honestly that sounds not so happy to have windows 10 on it
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how much ram does it have?
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also what cpu
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this is revios 1709, thats also a good option
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1709 is the first build with dch support, so itll work properly with newer gpus
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@docR you may want to consider it for your gaming os(tm) too, since i believe its lighter than 10 ltsc, and can also be customized the same
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(this isnt like the newer releases which stick their nose up at mods)
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much better
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despite all the hacking away, this shit takes up more space than revios does
burn it
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@docR you may want to consider it for your gaming os(tm) too, since i believe its lighter than 10 ltsc, and can also be customized the same
hmmmmmm. you know, thats a thought
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Betajyst4094 31/01/2022 18:02
I use
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It's very fast to my surprise
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No weird ass memory leaks and services
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@docR same theme on revios 1709
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also i found a patched winaero for it
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i'm downloading it now
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can you share?
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yes
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wait? patched? does winaero cockblock it?
18:05
we're in the HAL rn
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patched as in no watermark
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what could possibly go wrong in using an arch install script to install arch32 trol (edited)
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they seem to be having some wild issues with package signing as pacman is literally broken
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lmao
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Deformisani SAS 31/01/2022 19:54
does anyone have a windows vista product key?
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you can find them online
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Deformisani SAS 31/01/2022 19:54
none of them work
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hmm I remember I got a key to work
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Deformisani SAS 31/01/2022 19:59
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none of them work....
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Deformisani SAS
does anyone have a windows vista product key?
no
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Deformisani SAS
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 31/01/2022 20:05
wait
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-warn @Deleted User please, don't share files to bypass activation
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dynoSuccess BokeeXD#9210 has been warned.
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thats against discord tos
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Deleted User 31/01/2022 20:10
oh
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sorry
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its okay
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again, this is so our server doesnt get nuked
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Deleted User 31/01/2022 20:10
ye
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believe me, we all use.... things like this too. but that goes against discord tos to share this stuff
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Deleted User 31/01/2022 20:10
discord TOS is stupid
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we have too much to lose y'know?
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Deleted User 31/01/2022 20:10
ok
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Betajyst4094 31/01/2022 20:17
Oh no I'm going to get banned
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Betajyst4094
Oh no I'm going to get banned
Deleted User 31/01/2022 20:19
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ahhhhh
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its not a gif
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i made a post on msfn about my windows 7 kernel patching issues to see if some of the more experienced guys there might know whats going on
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Deleted User 31/01/2022 20:20
ok
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Deleted User
ok
RealTek AC97 Audio
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Deleted User 31/01/2022 20:21
my motherboard has via hd audio
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Michael
RealTek AC97 Audio
RealKek
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-warn @Deleted User please, don't share files to bypass activation
ImSwordQueen 31/01/2022 20:49
just say. somehow this makes windows not to ask activation trol
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 31/01/2022 20:57
bruh
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Michael
i made a post on msfn about my windows 7 kernel patching issues to see if some of the more experienced guys there might know whats going on
I just tried a very simple change to a win7 kernelbase. The VM just shuts down without even bugchecking.
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This would not be a problem on Vista. And I have modified windows 7's hal already. It booted, unlike this usermode thingy. (edited)
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But not all possibilities are exhausted. I haven't fixed the PE checksum on kernelbase, and a couple of things in the header may be wrong now that the file size has changed.
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Deformisani SAS 31/01/2022 21:52
win32 fucked up windows 7
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But not all possibilities are exhausted. I haven't fixed the PE checksum on kernelbase, and a couple of things in the header may be wrong now that the file size has changed.
i already tried to set the pe checksum with no luck
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let me know if you figure it out please
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:)
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A perfect header and a perfect checksum is...
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not good.
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I think we need to patch ci.dll too.
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I think we need to patch ci.dll too.
whats ci.dll?
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code integrity. on vista it needs to be patched for modifying ntdll and win32k, but not anything else
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code integrity. on vista it needs to be patched for modifying ntdll and win32k, but not anything else
what do i need to patch in it?
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is it something simple like with winload
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the same kind of thing as in winload, but like 90 times
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i only have to do it once so ill go ahead and do it
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whats the hex value im looking for
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0xc0000428
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0xc0000428
is it only the one in system32?
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or are there others
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just system32?
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and just change 0xc0000428 to 0x0
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yes
just curious, what does the 0xc0000428 represent?
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an NTSTATUS code for an invalid digital signature
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oh ok
22:20
that makes sense
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cool
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@win32 what about this, should i patch these too? mov [rsp+0B8h+var_88], 0C0000428h
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when modifying ntdll, it does trigger CI and has a bugcheck with that code just like in vista. but kernelbase doesn't even do that
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when modifying ntdll, it does trigger CI and has a bugcheck with that code just like in vista. but kernelbase doesn't even do that
mine gives me a bugcheck (edited)
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on boot
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with an access violation error
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i sent the windbg log here before (edited)
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ok im done patching ci.dll
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time ot test
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@win32 i got this error:
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set the pe checksum on ci.dll
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set the pe checksum on ci.dll
oh i thought i did but i forgot to hit save troll
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no dice @win32
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same exact access violation crash on SetSystemPowerState
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@Deleted User is that a civic ek9 in your pfp?
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Michael
same exact access violation crash on SetSystemPowerState
that screams "red herring" but i'd like to see that ntoskrnl anyway
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that screams "red herring" but i'd like to see that ntoskrnl anyway
what do you mean by that?
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to see what happens in that part of the function, even though I don't see how that ties into the initialization of a win32 subsystem component
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to see what happens in that part of the function, even though I don't see how that ties into the initialization of a win32 subsystem component
what i meant was, what do you mean by "red herring"
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i dont know that metaphor lol
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Like a false clue that doesn't bring you any further to finding the source of the problem.
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